Was CNN's War Report really that BIG when it Dropped?

[Wacky D]

@bigbadbossup2012 I wouldn't compare the nas situation to CNN.

war report wasn't hyped like illmatic.

meant nothing in my town (and it didnt sell),no pass from me.

I wouldn't expect it to be big in your town.

why would it sell? a semi-underground street album whose biggest market is the BOOTLEG CAPITALS.

its not like the south or west where virtual nobodies were going gold because the fans in those markets were goat.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

@bigbadbossup2012 I wouldn't compare the nas situation to CNN.

war report wasn't hyped like illmatic.





I wouldn't expect it to be big in your town.

why would it sell? a semi-underground street album whose biggest market is the BOOTLEG CAPITALS.

its not like the south or west where virtual nobodies were going gold because the fans in those markets were goat.

Was it hyped like illmatic,no
Why do you keep talking about what you would expect. I'm not speaking on expectaitions. I'm saying the album didnt do much,which it didnt.

 

[Family Man]

It wasn't big when it came out. You had to be a hip Hop head to have know about or checked for it. With that said, that shyt was fire and a muthaphucking classic.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

It wasn't big when it came out. You had to be a hip Hop head to have know about or checked for it. With that said, that shyt was fire and a muthaphucking classic.

translatation,it flopped,you had to be from lefrak to care,since it's from the east and we like it,let's hold it up and act like it's a classic

 

[Wacky D]

Was it hyped like illmatic,no
Why do you keep talking about what you would expect. I'm not speaking on expectaitions. I'm saying the album didnt do much,which it didnt.

translatation,it flopped,you had to be from lefrak to care,since it's from the east and we like it,let's hold it up and act like it's a classic

youre contradicting the top post.

in order to flop, there has to be expectations that weren't met!!!

and I'm not even from new York, let alone lefrak.
that album was a big deal here.

 

[Family Man]

translatation,it flopped,you had to be from lefrak to care,since it's from the east and we like it,let's hold it up and act like it's a classic

No translation needed. I said what I meant. The album did not flop but it wasn't huge at the time either. I was living in Florida at the time that album dropped and my nikka from Baltimore put me on to it. TONY used to get play on Rap City quite a bit.
There was a lot of quality shyt being dropped in 1997 - 98 and that album was kind of lost in the shuffle commercially.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

youre contradicting the top post.

in order to flop, there has to be expectations that weren't met!!!

i'm saying vs the competition it did nothing to seperate itself as a classic and didnt sell well
when i say "i expected nothing" i meant leading up to it's release there were no expectations from me and so what if it didnt sell well.
But when nikkas act like it meant xyz and history shows it meant nothing,that must be pointed out.

Dropping on a major,having your videos on major networks and shyt not taking off,doesnt mean you're underground,just mean your shyt wasnt popping.

 

[mobbinfms]

ed hype and all that, but i don't remember them getting a crazy high rating for the war report.

4 mics.

 

[mobbinfms]

see what youre tryna say tho.

I think @1BadBamaFan wad moreso getting at the video shows. But they may not have had those down south? I don't know if BET and MTV were nationwide? Should have been by 97.

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

I think @1BadBamaFan wad moreso getting at the video shows. But they may not have had those down south? I don't know if BET and MTV were nationwide? Should have been by 97.

All you had to do was pick up a source magazine and watch Rap City..

Y'all act like we was just inventing the wheel in the south when it comes to hip hop.

We had all the New York hip hop mixtapes nas,biggie,jay z,etc. get passed around back then in Atlanta too.

There was a radio station that played New York hip hop from like 12-4 in the morning every weekend back then too.

Not everyone from the South country.We was on the same fresh shyt as everyone else.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Going gold was ok. However only east coast albums with those type of sales in that time can get those level of props which is why i must shoot em down.

Nas getting 5 mics in the source and having videos constantly on mainstream video shows does not quantify as "strictly word of mouth" actually it's the opposite. Big,cooli,warren,bone ,outkast,meth,da brat were all bigger than nas in 1994. But let the east coast media tell it ,nas was right there or above nikkas.


Illmatic was released on April 19, 1994 through Columbia Records in the United States.[48] The album also featured international distribution that same year in countries including France, the Netherlands, Canada and the United Kingdom.[54][55][56][57] In its first week of release, Illmatic made its debut on the Billboard 200 albums chart at number 12, while selling 60,000 copies.[58] In spite of this, initial record sales fell below expectations

nikkas love talking but there bullshyt is easily dispelled

Theres plenty of albums from that period that get props that weren't major sellers and aren't east coast. Common, Comptons Most Wanted, Spice 1, and Eightball & MJG all had albums that were considered classics that didn't get sell a lot

Nobody is gonna sit here and argue that a bunch of artists were bigger than Nas in 94. The one thing we will say is he might've had the best album of the bunch. No matter how you look at it Illmatic was never gonna be a commercial success even if it did fall short of expectations. It had no big singles. So what he had videos played on Rap City and Yo MTV Raps? So did everybody else. Redman had one of the best albums that year and he went gold. But he still wasn't as big as the artists you named. Does that mean his album flopped? No.

 

[mobbinfms]

Theres plenty of albums from that period that get props that weren't major sellers and aren't east coast. Common, Comptons Most Wanted, Spice 1, and Eightball & MJG all had albums that were considered classics that didn't get sell a lot

Nobody is gonna sit here and argue that a bunch of artists were bigger than Nas in 94. The one thing we will say is he might've had the best album of the bunch. No matter how you look at it Illmatic was never gonna be a commercial success even if it did fall short of expectations. It had no big singles. So what he had videos played on Rap City and Yo MTV Raps? So did everybody else. Redman had one of the best albums that year and he went gold. But he still wasn't as big as the artists you named. Does that mean his album flopped? No.

Please click on @bigbadbossup2012 name and then select "ignore". :prodigylol:
Best thing I've ever done on the Coli :prodigylol:

 

[Wacky D]

i'm saying vs the competition it did nothing to seperate itself as a classic and didnt sell well
when i say "i expected nothing" i meant leading up to it's release there were no expectations from me and so what if it didnt sell well.
But when nikkas act like it meant xyz and history shows it meant nothing,that must be pointed out.

Dropping on a major,having your videos on major networks and shyt not taking off,doesnt mean you're underground,just mean your shyt wasnt popping.

what major networks?

they were only on rap city. not even regular BET rotation.

 

[u mad son?]

its arguably the most street album to ever be released

 

[John Mexico]

alot of east coast albums that are called CLASSIC,actually meant very little when they dropped.

Mobb's catalog
Illmatic
Ob4CL
reasonable doubt
ghostface so called classics
etc etc

You don't need hyperbole to make a point.

I was a much bigger hip hop head and and 8th grader all the way to HS graduation. i dont listen to my classics catalog nearly as m7ch as I used to and am no longer a purist...

But The Infamous is one of the best things I've EVER heard.