MisterMajesty
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Word, but its wild to me looking at someone like Meth, Deck, etc...who are easy shoe ins for some of the best MC's NY has ever produced and seeing them not have a Jay,Nas like run (ESPECIALLY Meth).
Was '99 the year when Wu Tang started to show cracks in the armor with jawns like Rae's Immobilarity, GZA's Beneath the Surface, Dirt's Ni$%a Please+
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BmoreGorilla
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IMO and I could be wrong. Meth seems like one of those dudes who doesn’t love being in the studio working albums. He’s always been at his best on features
And they dropped the ball with Deck. He shoulda had an album drop after Liquid Swords and before Ironman. Yea I know his album got lost in the flood but so what? Make another one. There’s absolutely no reason Cappadonna shoulda had an album before him
Whips-n-Chains
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They should've listened to RZA more, but egos got in the way and everyone thought they didn't need RZA anymore. RZA 93-97 is arguably the GOAT producer, but he shouldn't stayed truer to his sound instead of trying to be too digital.
Hindsight is 20/20, but even after Forever, they could've just made grimy 1995 sounding ish forever. With the exception of Ghost who sounds ill on the marvelous SC style beats, or Meth who's extremely versatile, they sound their best over the gritty 36 Chambers/early solo style beats. But it's hard to tell artists to keep doing the same shyt over and over, especially with hip hop rapidly changing year by year in the 90s.
But look at Mobb Deep, who basically stuck to the script for 4 straight albums (I'm including HNIC) and they're all banging. No one complained about it either bc it was what the fans wanted.
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MisterMajesty
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I wish they worked with other producers during the 90s man. Imagine prime wu over havoc? or premier? or pete?
Whips-n-Chains
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Working with RZA exclusively worked extremely well but it also made it hard to get albums out, especially with the floods.
Beneath the surface gave me a motherfukkin classic!!
Played this song so much when I bought that album. Album was decent but he was not going to top liquid swords.
I love GZA and Ol’ Dirty but this shyt was so lazy
True, that's why they added Razah to the video version.
Which is why they did the remix w/ Deck & Killa over the old school break
I love Latina women
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This thread had me listening back to Enter The 36 Chamber earlier tonight
Man that time was magical
Man that time was magical
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IMO and I could be wrong. Meth seems like one of those dudes who doesn’t love being in the studio working albums. He’s always been at his best on features
And they dropped the ball with Deck. He shoulda had an album drop after Liquid Swords and before Ironman. Yea I know his album got lost in the flood but so what? Make another one. There’s absolutely no reason Cappadonna shoulda had an album before him
Yup and facts at the bolded, great post
Devil Plisken…CMS
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SC - Yeah
The W - Ehhhhhhhh
The only song that made noise was “Gravel Pit” and it wasn’t like nikkax went crazy for that album
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
RZA & Devine got more points off the affiliates' albums for far less work, so they pushed those albums ahead of the core members. This also caused major strife b/c you're absolutely correct, there's no fukking reason Deck shouldn't have gotten a release in 95/96/97... RZA couldn't miss in that era, so even if he had to re-do Deck's album it still would've been a banger.IMO and I could be wrong. Meth seems like one of those dudes who doesn’t love being in the studio working albums. He’s always been at his best on features
And they dropped the ball with Deck. He shoulda had an album drop after Liquid Swords and before Ironman. Yea I know his album got lost in the flood but so what? Make another one. There’s absolutely no reason Cappadonna shoulda had an album before him
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
Idk breh...my whole school cut class to buy the album and/or burn copies from whoever had it. There was def major hype leading up to the release, but I get what you're saying b/c after it dropped the hype def died out.
Devil Plisken…CMS
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Early 90s, Mid 90s & Late 90s
All artists & groups fall into one, two but not three of these categories
The exception being Snoop & LL
All artists & groups fall into one, two but not three of these categories
The exception being Snoop & LL
Devil Plisken…CMS
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Listen…it was promoted heavily and they certainly made their rounds but upon delivery it cooled down because it wasn’t what people wanted. This is coming from someone who bought it first day just like you did and wanted it to be successful
The world had changed
Yagirlcheatinonus
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Allegedly Nas fell off but his verse on Let My nikkas Live was standout.
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I was just thinking back
nikka Please felt like a posthumous release because Dirty was in rehab and jail at that time
The only promo that album had was Got Your Monwy song and video and the video was just old clips from Dolemite and Shinny shimmy ya
I remember when he got arrested at the McDonalds in Philly after being on the run
nikka Please felt like a posthumous release because Dirty was in rehab and jail at that time
The only promo that album had was Got Your Monwy song and video and the video was just old clips from Dolemite and Shinny shimmy ya
I remember when he got arrested at the McDonalds in Philly after being on the run