I don't like Drake, I like Drake & friends.Like I said breh, its ok. Keep liking Drake
Want more fukkery? MEEK MILL tweets Drake dont write his own lyrics UPDATE: deletes photos of Nicki
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Mandarin Duck
Majestic and Highfalutin
You gon love "Views from the 6". Quentin told meI don't like Drake, I like Drake & friends.
You gon love "Views from the 6". Quentin told me
We off Quentin breh. Expect to hear the name Bryson Tiller a lot soon 
the kid
Real Esquire, Not the Magazine
Honestly, this is what happens when u let people who dont respect the culture, into the culture. U can see from some people's responses. The essence of rap is a person telling his stories on beats. To be a rapper u have to write our rhymes. Dont know how people dont understand that. Call it being creative or an entertainer or artistic, just dont call it being a rapper.
Silver Surfer
Veteran
Meek out here dry-hatin...and he dont even know why....
Exactly. Unless niccas run out the woodwork saying that drake is a fraud with reference tracks and shyt idk if this was anymore than a collaboration . Maybe drake on tour and busy and couldn't get the beat right or something and he was giving him a idea . I find it hard to believe that drake doesn't write at allfukk off my dikk breh. I been in here clowning Drake the whole time. I ain't moving no goal posts. When the news came out I thought he took whole songs too. Now you got idiots in here acting like he ain't wrote a single bar in his career
Silver Surfer
Veteran
You cant "air " people out with Belly button rings....
Hang with pussies and have ya navel pierced brehs
Drake>Shameek
Meek mill finna belly dance after his rap career over. Which is approaching.
How wrote the rest of the song ? Drakes verses later were different
You left out devin, boosie, cee lo, charles and then some.
I just finish bumping some styles yesterday, grew up on BG and Soulja Slim. Again what drake does in his songs as far as opening up (mostly when it comes to chicks) is different from what most other rappers have done and are doing. The fact most rappers can't get on a track and sing to an ex alone is proof enough. But not just with women but just success and failure.
for the most part drake gets clown because he's goofy and personal in his raps. Its the same reason he gets love, other rappers have a image to protect or just aren't as inviting or open without trying to be swagged out or sound cool. Every rapper you listed is on that thug ish, with a side of being personal. Drake is pretty much the opposite of that.
Charles and drake are probably the two most personal or "everyday" type of nikka in the rap game.
Now this actually makes senseLike how he stitched 2 Ramriddlz songs together for his Sweeterman remix
Yeah, I imagine all these dudes are recording tons of songs and Drake probably just sifts through them on some "I'll take this hook, that verse, and use this cadence"
Reminds me of a more polished approach to all the new Gucci mixtapes where he clearly is taking (old) verses meant for different songs and throwing them over new beats and hooks
Welp sounds like 40 is defi itley saying its more than just this one song.
Canada Goose
Pooping on your head :umad:
Yeah, I'm an 90s baby and when I think of Latifah first thing that comes to mind is Living Color and Set it off...
thernbroom
Superstar
Nickelus F On Working With Drake, Ghostwriting
Meek Mill speaking tweeting about Drake’s Atlanta-based ghostwriter has fueled the ever-fiery discussion on what constitutes originality in hip hop, which ultimately garners an emcee respect. It’s no secret that some craft their own sound while others seek help. Despite other rappers’ disdain for outsourcing material, artists like Nickelus F, who worked with Drake way before Thank Me Later, sees the value in what is perceived as ghostwriting. When we spoke to the Virginia wordsmith and producer, he had no problem keeping it a stack about the current ghostwriting spats and how they affect his upcoming project, TRIFLIN’.
Mass Appeal: You spoke about giving Drake bars, so would you consider yourself a former ghostwriter of Drake at this point?
Nickelus F: No, I am not a former ghostwriter for Drake. He’s immensely talented and personal in his music. The depths that he goes to in his personal reflection can’t be written by anyone else. And it’s his personal honest moments that people love him for the most. i.e. “The Calm.”
On Twitter, you made a good point about ghostwriting not really making a difference when the artist already has a core fan base that can’t be swayed. However, it doesn’t seem odd when rappers who pride themselves on being the best out, get help for their bars?
If you’re battle rapping, yes it matters. Look at Prez Mafia—only battle rap followers will understand that reference. But in terms of entertainment, it’s been proven that it doesn’t matter. People connect with the person you are. I feel like fans nowadays aren’t as concerned with if the person is a good writer. Only other writers care about that. Look at it like this: Quentin Tarantino makes extraordinary films and in general receives all the credit for the movies. But do you think he sat down and wrote that script word for word? Of course he didn’t. Does it matter? Of course not. We love the movies anyway, and we call them Quentin Tarantino movies. That analogy pertains specifically to the question of if ghostwriting matters, not if Drake has a ghostwriter, because I can’t speak on what I don’t know.
How do you feel about the effects of outing a ghostwriter and the pending lack of work that will follow because of the negative stigma attached to ghostwriting in rap?
For ghostwriting in general, I support it. At the end of the day, it’s about good music. That’s what the fans want. I don’t care who’s in the studio with Kanye tossing out one-liners and what not. Kanye sells that **** and is the orchestrator of it all. And on top of that, he’s in my top 5. Along with Jay, MF DOOM, Raekwon, and Future Hendrix. But not everyone has the voice, or personality, or look, or opportunity to “make it big.” There are a lot of talented writers out here who don’t have access to good production, or the proper vision to bring a project together correctly. But everybody needs to eat right?
And just to throw this in…yall can’t go questioning Drake’s pen when he says he was ready to battle Mook. Annnnd on top of that, Drake’s pen game is way crazier than Meek’s.
Meek Mill speaking tweeting about Drake’s Atlanta-based ghostwriter has fueled the ever-fiery discussion on what constitutes originality in hip hop, which ultimately garners an emcee respect. It’s no secret that some craft their own sound while others seek help. Despite other rappers’ disdain for outsourcing material, artists like Nickelus F, who worked with Drake way before Thank Me Later, sees the value in what is perceived as ghostwriting. When we spoke to the Virginia wordsmith and producer, he had no problem keeping it a stack about the current ghostwriting spats and how they affect his upcoming project, TRIFLIN’.
Mass Appeal: You spoke about giving Drake bars, so would you consider yourself a former ghostwriter of Drake at this point?
Nickelus F: No, I am not a former ghostwriter for Drake. He’s immensely talented and personal in his music. The depths that he goes to in his personal reflection can’t be written by anyone else. And it’s his personal honest moments that people love him for the most. i.e. “The Calm.”
On Twitter, you made a good point about ghostwriting not really making a difference when the artist already has a core fan base that can’t be swayed. However, it doesn’t seem odd when rappers who pride themselves on being the best out, get help for their bars?
If you’re battle rapping, yes it matters. Look at Prez Mafia—only battle rap followers will understand that reference. But in terms of entertainment, it’s been proven that it doesn’t matter. People connect with the person you are. I feel like fans nowadays aren’t as concerned with if the person is a good writer. Only other writers care about that. Look at it like this: Quentin Tarantino makes extraordinary films and in general receives all the credit for the movies. But do you think he sat down and wrote that script word for word? Of course he didn’t. Does it matter? Of course not. We love the movies anyway, and we call them Quentin Tarantino movies. That analogy pertains specifically to the question of if ghostwriting matters, not if Drake has a ghostwriter, because I can’t speak on what I don’t know.
How do you feel about the effects of outing a ghostwriter and the pending lack of work that will follow because of the negative stigma attached to ghostwriting in rap?
For ghostwriting in general, I support it. At the end of the day, it’s about good music. That’s what the fans want. I don’t care who’s in the studio with Kanye tossing out one-liners and what not. Kanye sells that **** and is the orchestrator of it all. And on top of that, he’s in my top 5. Along with Jay, MF DOOM, Raekwon, and Future Hendrix. But not everyone has the voice, or personality, or look, or opportunity to “make it big.” There are a lot of talented writers out here who don’t have access to good production, or the proper vision to bring a project together correctly. But everybody needs to eat right?
And just to throw this in…yall can’t go questioning Drake’s pen when he says he was ready to battle Mook. Annnnd on top of that, Drake’s pen game is way crazier than Meek’s.
thatrapsfan
Superstar
Thankfully for me drake isn't just a rapper. He's also a musician and a producer and a creator.
So this is pretty much an admission.
So this is pretty much an admission.