NYC Rebel
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Then he needs to say that it is and stop covering himself in a journalists garb.
Does sports journalism in the NY Times reflect what he does? Would you put him in the same category are Will Rhoden?
wait,wtf are steven a's credentials ?
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Then he needs to say that it is and stop covering himself in a journalists garb.
Does sports journalism in the NY Times reflect what he does? Would you put him in the same category are Will Rhoden?
Sure. Ive seen Rhoden on the old Sports reporters show offering his opinion. That didnt denote that he was abandoning his sports-journalist wares.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
He offered his opinion without speaking over someone else.
He offered his opinion without it being a license to be arrogant.
Rhoden offers opinions while being sensitive to inexperienced sources or subjects.
These are things Stephen A does not do.
Will Rhoden who wrote a book titled "40 Million Dollar Slaves"?
Their approaches are different, but they are one and the same, and playing the same game. They obviously have different views on civility --- but you see who is the more successful one --- thats just capitalism 101.
Also, when we talk about arrogance, we cant confuse reporting on federal funding for social safety nets, or preconditions for military intervention, with reporting and discussing Mark Sanchez going 6-29, or whether Danillo Gallinari is overpaid. Sports is entertainment, and is a distraction from real life.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
And I meant the 1st thing you said to me
And I was talking about the context of him being on that show.
Greenstrings
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If you really buy into the animation and bravado he displays on a show designed to stimulate debate by accentuating a polemic and are using that to write him off as arrogant or whatever (as if arrogance disqualifies you from being a journalist
), then I'm afraid your attitude to what you see on TV is at least a little naive.Do you really think that he and Skip are genuinely diametrically opposed on all these issues that they go at each other about? Of course not but in the process of passionately arguing two sides of an argument they impart knowledge about that issue and help inform or stimulate public opinion on it.
Whether it appeals to you or not, that is journalism.
Not only that, but you haven't applied the criteria correctly. Not adhering to the standard of ethical practices wouldn't mean he's not a journalist, that would just make him a 'bad' journalist.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
If you really buy into the animation and bravado he displays on a show designed to stimulate debate by accentuating a polemic and are using that to write him off as arrogant or whatever (as if arrogance disqualifies you from being a journalist
Do you really think that he and Skip are genuinely diametrically opposed on all these issues that they go at each other about? Of course not but in the process of passionately arguing two sides of an argument they impart knowledge about that issue and help inform or stimulate public opinion on it.
Whether it appeals to you or not, that is journalism.
Not only that, but you haven't applied the criteria correctly. Not adhering to the standard of ethical practices wouldn't mean he's not a journalist, that would just make him a 'bad' journalist.
Buy into it? That act is completely manufactured.
Are you talking to yourself now believing I feel they're being genuine?
It's all an act....it's not journalism.....it's an act...
SpittinThatKnowledge
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leave Prince Smith alone
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NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Hew was a beat writer for the 76ers. what are you talking about
I was talking about the context of him being on that show.
Greenstrings
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And journalism can't be an act?
When a news anchor interviews an expert in a particular field and engages them in debate seeking to contradict and point out flaws in their stance or test their knowledge, do you think that gives us any idea whether or not they genuinely disagree with what that expert is trying to say?
Of course not but in the process of dramatising debate, both sides illustrate the problems surrounding an issue and people are given a more balanced appraisal of the circumstances surrounding the issue.
In fact a lot of what we process as journalism is an act that we unconsciously attribute an air of legitimacy to in order to match the potential gravity of what it is we're being told. We generally don't consider the fact that people delivering the news do so in a manner that doesn't reflect their normal modes of discourse.
At any rate I think these days we put too much emphasis on how things are being said and don't pay enough mind to what the content itself has to offer.
So what you are saying is that he's Mongo McMichael or Kevin Greene or LT or dare I say Goldberg?
His journalistic prowess is the reason he is in the position he's in however what he's doing now most certainly isn't journalism.
He plays both sides of the fence. He plays the entertainment angle but the moment someone questions him he throws the journalism card out there. Can't deny his credentials but that doesn't preclude him from being on some bullshyt.
FreddyCalhoun
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Find me one Well-Known Journalist who fit this description....Just one