You have to go beneath the image, or further back than 1st take. He wrote for newspapers and was known for blending politics and sports. I knew this about him before espn and I live in alabama. Yoi cant let your personal feelings for him discredit what he has actually done.
wait,wtf are steven a's credentials ?
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this dude just talk about sports
did he play college ball or something ?
he shouldn't be talking football....
this dude trying to be "martin" on espn
this niccas problem is that he screams too damn much. Most of the time he makes some good logical points but they get lost due to him thinking that raising his voice make people listen to what he says.
You're confusing things here. Journalism is a catch-all phrase. Steven A still councils sources, he still breaks stories here and there --- elements of journalism --- but now those efforts are geared towards persuasive editorializing, rather than unbiased reporting. He's not disguising anything as if he's attempting neutrality, so your issue with him is purely semantics.
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Ethics from the Society of Professional Journalists:
- Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.
Avoid stereotyping by race, gender, age, religion, ethnicity, geography, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance or social status.
Show compassion for those who may be affected adversely by news coverage. Use special sensitivity when dealing with children and inexperienced sources or subjects.
Recognize that gathering and reporting information may cause harm or discomfort. Pursuit of the news is not a license for arrogance.
Clarify and explain news coverage and invite dialogue with the public over journalistic conduct.
Encourage the public to voice grievances against the news media.
Admit mistakes and correct them promptly.
Expose unethical practices of journalists and the news media.
Abide by the same high standards to which they hold others.
Dude crosses these lines OFTEN when being on that show. Nothing he does on First Take represents journalism. He's an entertainer on TV.
Falling back on being a journalist in the past has nothing to do with what he presently does on TV. It has NOTHING to do with journalism....everything to do with being an entertainer.
He is NOT a journalist when he's on TV. I grew up with cats who were ASSASSINATED during their pursuits of journalism. Stephen A Smith gives them a bad name when he touts it on TV fronting as if his First Take performances puts him within their ranks.
He is NOT a journalist when he's on that show.
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he's a journalist and he put his time in. the relationships and info he's still able to get cant be ignored, but his "journalist" line is blurred on that show because thats not what he's there for. fatlock wrote an article about his perception of it a couple weeks ago and i agreed w/ some of it, but for the most part steven a. been tryna find his lane since his show tanked and espn cut his first take 
. he tried the cnn "outspoken independent" and it was moving alot slower than this skip-antithesis train, so he hopped aboard. i dont really have a problem with him or what he does...for the most part.
. he tried the cnn "outspoken independent" and it was moving alot slower than this skip-antithesis train, so he hopped aboard. i dont really have a problem with him or what he does...for the most part.
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Niqqa please. Speaking rudely over people isn't journalism.
Councils sources my ass....elements of journalism my ass. There are no college courses to speak of which teach his brand of First TAke tomfoolery.
My issue with him is that he routinely hides behind the trade as if what he does on screen reflects journalism. It doesn't. Over 200 journalists a year die performing their duties as journalists. Stephen A on First Take does not reflect those who die following those ethics.
That's no different than sal paolantonio with his sources or john clayton. I think you let his tone of voice make you forget what he did before he got on that show, which is what I said before. What he is now is not what he was before. It's obvious that he is there as a counter to Skip but that still doesnt negate the fact that he was and is a respected journalist journalist.
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And whose to say I consider them journalists? What he is NOW is not a journalist....that's my point.
Once again, the show is a journalistic one --- it routinely breaks stories and covers them. Its not, however, a "straight news show", and thats clear to the viewer. Everyone is aware that Steven A. and Skip are op-ed guys who are offering persuasive opinions.
Steven A is trying to lay claim to the idea that his journalistic efforts help him in creating an informed opinion. .
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That show mostly reacts to news that is already broken.
You can be an op-ed person yet still follow the ethics I posted.....in which Stephen A DOESN'T.
Stephen A is a brand. He is an entertainer. He does NOT reflect journalism on that show.
The 1st thing you said was he is not a credentialed journalist. If you would have said he sucks on the show and it's not indicative of journalism I would have agreed. The fact of the matter is he does things outside of 1st take which is almost the polar opposite of the stephen a. that you see on 1st take.
this dude just talk about sports
did he play college ball or something ?
he shouldn't be talking football....
this dude trying to be "martin" on espn
That shyt disgusts me...
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But sports IS entertainment.
That outlining of ethical journalism you posted earlier, is oriented towards news gathering which affect peoples lives, public policy, foreign policy, etc --- weighty issues. There is a reason why sports-journalism is a hyphenated term. They arent one in the same.
Thats not to suggest that sports journalism should permit clear unethical behavior like lying and misrepresentation, but sports is by nature entertainment so our baseline starts there.