Wait...Arab Muslims enslaved Africans for 14 centuries?

[Techniec]

Facts

- Arabs enslaved Africans
- Turks enslaved Europeans
- Islam is not racist

anything else is just falsehoods

 

[Blackking]

How do you figure? The Quran does things like suggest that slaves should be treated kindly. A statement like that endorses slavery. It takes slavery for granted as an institution, then suggests some ethical guidelines within it. It doesn't say "slavery is wrong. No one should own slaves."

It says you should free them.. and that you will be rewarded (which is a party in your ears if you're Muslim) for freeing them. It says to not sh1t on them and basically treat them as you would a house guest that works for you (that can't leave)- feed, cloths, defend and take care of them; possible adopt if a kid or free them.. It says that you should (if u have the money) buy up slaves in mass then free them.

I could hate on some black American civil rights promoters for only getting as far as sitting at the cac table and not promoting some key real sh1t... but I have to appreciate anyone or group that makes a stand, regardless if they are attacked for it, to at least get the ball rolling in the correct direction.

 

[88m3]

Arabs(Muslims) seem like a really reasonable group of people.


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[theworldismine13]

explain while I google

dont get me started lol, but yeah, the british ran the arabs, the middle east was part of the british empire, but around the 1800s the british passed a law banning slavery and they tried to enforce that law on the arabs, a lot of them revolted

in the end it was the british that ended (in legal terms) islamic slavery not islam

 

[theworldismine13]

Facts

- Arabs enslaved Africans
- Turks enslaved Europeans
- Islam is not racist

anything else is just falsehoods

the only thing we are discussing is arabs enslaving african, anything else is irrelevant

 

[theworldismine13]

O K.. like i said.. only the op didn't know about arab slavery. Many of them still think black is inferior. I was only questioning why Islam was introduced as an efficacious fact in the picture you all were trying to paint about Arab slavery. If aliens came to Earth and enslaved my people I wouldn't care what religion they were.

The slave practice superseded Islam retard. Islam is the reason Arabs were releasing slaves and was at least the catalyst for some of the better Ideas on freedom in Arabia, then the world. Slavery continued after Islam only due to greed and culture.. But every reader can see that the Q isn't a slavery promoting book.

thats simply false, its recorded history that the british where the ones that ended slavery in the arab world

islam is a product of arab culture, so when you embrace islam you are embracing an anti black culture, that is the connection

 

[Techniec]

the only thing we are discussing is arabs enslaving african, anything else is irrelevant

these conversations tend to veer off topic very quickly.

 

[Techniec]

thats simply false, its recorded history that the british where the ones that ended slavery in the arab world

islam is a product of arab culture, so when you embrace islam you are embracing an anti black culture, that is the connection

 

[tru_m.a.c]

dont get me started lol, but yeah, the british ran the arabs, the middle east was part of the british empire, but around the 1800s the british passed a law banning slavery and they tried to enforce that law on the arabs, a lot of them revolted

in the end it was the british that ended (in legal terms) islamic slavery not islam

I was aware of the colonialism expansion with the British empire, but I was under the impression that from the get Islam was responsible for getting rid of slavery in the middle east.....

...wasn't aware of the British forcefully banning slavery there too

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Indian Ocean Slave Trade

The Royal Navy's task in East Africa and the Indian Ocean was even more difficult than in the Atlantic. This was in part because of the support for slavery among Islamic powers (both Arabian and Persian). The Indian Ocean from the early Islamic conquests (8th century) to the European voyages of discovery (15th century) was essentially an Arab lake dominatd by armed Arab traders, contested at times by the Persians. One of the important commodities transported over the Arab-controlled Indian Ocean was enslaved Africans. The principal port of embarcation for Afrians taken by Arab slavers was entrepôt Zanzibar. Not a lot is known about Zanzibar and the slave trade until the 19th century. By the time the Royal Navy moved against the Arab Indian Ocean slave trade, it wasargely in the hands of the Sultanate of Zanzibar. The Sultanate's expanding plantation operations in the early 19th century were worked mostly with slave labor. Theprofits fom the East African plantations induced the Sultan of Oman, Sayyid Said, to relocated his capital from Oman to the east African island of Zanzibar (1840). The Sultan's sovereignty at the time extended from southern Somalia to northern Mozambique. One source estimates that 1850 when the British Royal Navy was just beginning to turn its attention to the Indian Ocean slave trade that Arab traders were shipping about 20,000 Africans to slave markets annually. An even larger number of Africans would have been killed in the attacks taking slaves and on the the sad columns of Africans that winded their way from the interior to the Indian Ocean coast. The mortalities in the Eastern slave trade were especally high because the Arabs were primarily after women and children which meant the men had to be killed. This was not, however, a largely naval problem. The Arab slave trade had once been focused on bringing slaves to Middle Easten markets. Now with the growth of palm oil and spice plantations, there was a need for large number of slaves in East Africa itself.

African slave trade -- European ending the Atlantic slave trade

The Story of Africa| BBC World Service

In East Africa a slave trade was well established before the Europeans arrived on the scene. It was driven by the sultanates of the Middle East. African slaves ended up as sailors in Persia, pearl divers in the Gulf, soldiers in the Omani army and workers on the salt pans of Mesopotamia (modern Iraq). Many people were domestic slaves, working in rich households. Women were taken as sex slaves.

Arab traders began to settle among the Africans of the coast, resulting in the emergence of a people and culture known as Swahili. In the second half of the 18th century, the slave trade expanded and became more organised. There was also a huge demand for ivory, and slaves were used as porters to carry it.

 

[88m3]

thats simply false, its recorded history that the british where the ones that ended slavery in the arab world

islam is a product of arab culture, so when you embrace islam you are embracing an anti black culture, that is the connection

I agree


Any black man who embraces Islam is a sellout.

 

[Techniec]

I agree


Any black man who embraces Islam is a sellout.

of course. so your dumb azz who hasnt done shyt for your own people can rest assured knowing youre the real deal, but malcolm x, muhamad ali, etc are all sell outs

 

[Techniec]

I was aware of the colonialism expansion with the British empire, but I was under the impression that from the get Islam was responsible for getting rid of slavery in the middle east.....

...wasn't aware of the British forcefully banning slavery there too

lol wrong impression

 

[newworldafro]

Facts

- Arabs enslaved Africans
- Turks enslaved Europeans
- Islam is not racist

anything else is just falsehoods

Whats some good references on this

I know that the world "Slavic" mean slave if I'm correct....and the whole feudal paradigm and Europe was on some sharecropper type steeze I believe. The Mongols ran up into Europe, at least Eastern Europe.

The thing is Turks are still considered Caucasian right, but no necessarily European......so yeah, what's some references on this...

 

[88m3]

of course. so your dumb azz who hasnt done shyt for your own
people can rest assured knowing youre the real deal, but malcolm x, muhamad ali, etc are all sell outs

I guess jobs, scholarships, and patronage don't count.




Take a seat.


When are you going to go back to Afghanistan and do some contracting work to help your people out?