This is exactly what these cacs saying centuries later
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Wait...Arab Muslims enslaved Africans for 14 centuries?
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I'm not dikkriding 'whitey', and I acknowledge that TODAY some of them are a problem for black people; I'm just clowning these nikkas who would swear on their mother's grave that whites are the only ones evil enough to participate in shyt like slavery
YES, white people did some fukked-up shyt throughout history.......but they weren't the ONLY ones doing it......hell, they weren't even necessarily the first ones doing it. Most of the things they did to black people were done before to certain people, by OTHER certain people. nikkas just extra mad because one of the most recent examples of the shyt, was done to their people by 'whitey' - which is understandable in a way, but still doesn't excuse the damn near extremist (and sometimes even ridiculous) views they have on white people today in general
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....but Greeks ARE a different race than Scandinavians, so your comparison is totally senseless.now.
RACE is a broad term. It does nopt mean that one person is identical to another. Hale Berry and Wesley Snipes are considered the same RACE but they are very DIFFERENT.
SInce I have to spell it out: In America Scandanavians and Greeks are both considered WHITE (which is a race). Two white people can be DIFFERENT than one another but still be considered the same RACE. In the American racial schema, ancient Egyptians would be considered BLACK just like Sub Saharan Africans cause they are all AFRICANS.
What I am saying makes plenty of sense. I think your understanding is lacking.
Sooooooo... you can't have it both ways. If Barry O is black then Egypt was black. If Egypt was not black, then Greece is not white. One or the other.
Let me make it easy for you: think of it geographically, not literal skin tone. Tried to tell you that earlier.
Also:
Y'all are so busy focussing on who f***ed our ancestors a**holes the hardest. The real issue is that we got jacked up and drug through the mud by basically everyone who came across us. Don't spend brain cells hating people who died hundreds of years ago, figure out how we can prtect our a**holes in 2012. Why were we the ones who went through this for so many centuries? Why were we considered subhuman? Why ARE we NOW considered subhuman?
We will never command respect until we get off our pity pot, dust ourselves off, and stand on our own two. Until black people can care for ourselves and carve out a place in this world we will never be seen as equals. Y'all worried about slavery in the year 1200, you need to focus on the fact that they might re-instate that s*** next year - and what could we do to stop it? N****s these days are signing up for slavery (read: private prisons).
Y'all are so busy focussing on who f***ed our ancestors a**holes the hardest. The real issue is that we got jacked up and drug through the mud by basically everyone who came across us. Don't spend brain cells hating people who died hundreds of years ago, figure out how we can prtect our a**holes in 2012. Why were we the ones who went through this for so many centuries? Why were we considered subhuman? Why ARE we NOW considered subhuman?
We will never command respect until we get off our pity pot, dust ourselves off, and stand on our own two. Until black people can care for ourselves and carve out a place in this world we will never be seen as equals. Y'all worried about slavery in the year 1200, you need to focus on the fact that they might re-instate that s*** next year - and what could we do to stop it? N****s these days are signing up for slavery (read: private prisons).
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...which is completely irrelevant because America is the exception, not the rule. And it wasn't always the exception either. See: discrimination of Germans, Irish, Poles, etc. etc. as not being white.
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YOU need to think about it genealogically. Instead of...y'know...retardedly.
Okay Dhalsim.
You know got damn well the Arabs that live in Egypt NOW are not the people who originated there. What evs duke, you exist in your own fantasy. Enjoy.
sooo... you all are saying that Islam enslaved Africans? Or that Arabs did?
From my understanding Africans first enslaved other Africans, then Arabs and cacs then everyone else.
Islam discourages such behavior, but just like any concept or belief system... People who follow Islam are subject to human motivations.
Arabs would have enslaved African just as the rest of the world enslaved people, even if Islam was never revealed.
From my understanding Africans first enslaved other Africans, then Arabs and cacs then everyone else.
Islam discourages such behavior, but just like any concept or belief system... People who follow Islam are subject to human motivations.
Arabs would have enslaved African just as the rest of the world enslaved people, even if Islam was never revealed.
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...which is completely irrelevant because America is the exception, not the rule. And it wasn't always the exception either. See: discrimination of Germans, Irish, Poles, etc. etc. as not being white.
Yes. Yes, they can. But Nordic and Mediterranean are not an example of that. So you're still wrong.
...which, again, is the exception and not the rule.
Nordic, Mediterranean, central European, and eastern European people ALL interbred here. White people are considered "white" here because it's too hard to tell where it is they actually descend from. That's not how it is in the rest of the world.
There is a well known quote by Joseph De Maistre, a well known French royalist and conservative, where he says that there is no such thing as just "white" people.
Not really. Being north African doesn't mean you would be considered black in the United States. I knew Egyptian kids in high school. None were considered black.
Do you honestly think this guy (Hosni Mubarak) would pass for black in the US?
How about her (Miss Egypt)?
When did I say Barry O was black? Barry O isn't black. He just happens to look the way we imagine most black people to look, so he finds solidarity with black people and freaks racist white people out.
As for Egypt -- you're using the word "was." Lots of different ethnic groups existed in the historical Egyptian empire. Some where blacker than others. Over time, the area became more defined by those of Mediterranean/near-eastern descent. Whether or not Egypt WAS blacker at some point in history is another story. But Egyptian =/= automatic blackness.
Except that's a retarded way to think about it. The geographic construct of "Africa" does not mean "this is automatically a black guy." That's like saying white Brazilians aren't white because they're from South America -- even though their lineage is almost entirely Caucasian.
Your argument doesn't even make sense. First, you say that if Barack Obama is black (phenotypically) then Egypt is black (geographically). A complete apples to oranges comparison. You just TOLD me to think about it in terms of geography, and then proceed to label Obama black because of literal skin tone -- exactly what yo told me NOT to do.
Then you say that if Egypt wasn't black (phenotypically) then Greece isn't white (phenotypically). How does that make any fukking sense?
Barack Obama is black by "appearance" in American's odd and incomprehensible racial milieu -- a milieu that doesn't apply to the rest of the world.
The territory of Egypt is not a primarily black demographic -- though it has many black inhabitants both now and historically. It's near eastern/Mediterranean. Same goes for Greece.
YOU need to think about it genealogically. Instead of...y'know...retardedly.
you do realize that native Egyptians no longer exist, right? They were practically wiped out after facing invaders for thousands of years. The modern day Egyptians are nothing more than a mixture of Arab population from as far as Turkey that settled their when jihad swept through the land. There is no doubt that pictures/sculptures dating back to early Egypt indicate they were black people and their hairstyle. The ancient greeks who were not influenced by todays racism specifically described Egyptians as being black and brown in skin color with wooly hair. Greeks have very curly hair compared to other whites and they even noticed the difference in hair.Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
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Seriously. I can't believe there are people here still refusing to believe that at least a large percentage of ancient egyptians were black or biracial regardless of the overwhelming evidence that they were
There are still some of the original Egyptians running around in North Africa but North Africans(Arabs) are generally REALLY fukked up towards the indigenous black populations. Its really disgusting how they're treating blacks in Libya. Same deal with Berbers too, which are the closest thing to Arabs in Africa, but the thing is they were there LONG before west asians and greeks showed up and they may have actually been around as long as blacks.
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I kinda want to believe y'all but I'ma need to hear strong counter arguments from arab muslims