Wade 3:16 The Last Dance. Official Miami Heat 2018-19 Season Thread

[BushidoBrown]

Yeah, it sucks but when you give out trash contracts, you can’t give them away for free. Ask the Lakers who had to give up Russel to move Mosgov.

Tru, u are correct

 

[Draje]

Call up that young boy from our g league that was cooking

Maten? Yeah, he definitely looks dominant down there and he’s on our two ways. I’d be ok with bringing him up.

Maybe they saw some potential with him.

 

[BushidoBrown]

we lost two rotation players for a guy who can barely stay on the court, and Ellington is definitely worth more than just tax relief.

shiiiiiiiiit remember the days of having mcroberts

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

shiiiiiiiiit remember the days of having mcroberts

mcthief

 

[intruder]

Owner had to make a move to save tax for some of the stupidity from the last few years.

Basketball-wise it does nothing for the heat. Traded two rotational players for a guy who can't play anymore.

How? It’s mostly a win for Arison because he gets tax relief but it doesn’t give us any cap relief, we lost two rotation players for a guy who can barely stay on the court, and Ellington is definitely worth more than just tax relief.

The past to trade deadlines have been mostly mad dashes for tax relief because of the Ugly contracts we handed out. I mean, even if you buy him out next year, 15 million is still owed so we’re not really getting much cap relief either.

But shyt I’ve been wrong before. What do you like about the deal? Maybe I’m looking at it the wrong way.

Rotation players at a position where we had a log jam.
But still it's not like TJ and Ellington were playing heavy minutes over here (especially Ellington) so ease off the "rotation players" stuff. This move slides TJ's minutes to Dion so he can STFU about the issue and still gives Winslow plenty of minutes so his stans can STFU about the issue of him needing the minutes to reach his potential. All this while reducing the luxury tax hit.

Micky saves $10M from this move alone for dropping 2 players we didnt want anymore while taking 1 player we dont want. You cant always flat out win. Sometimes all you can do is minimize the losses.

 

[Draje]

shiiiiiiiiit remember the days of having mcroberts

Every time I saw that man’s name on the roster

 

[Armchair Militant]

Owner had to make a move to save tax for some of the stupidity from the last few years.

Basketball-wise it does nothing for the heat. Traded two rotational players for a guy who can't play anymore.

Whatever. Tyler swears he's Curry and Ellington can't defend anyone. Thought they could've gotten a 2nd for Ellington, but his value probably tanked.

 

[Draje]

Rotation players at a position where we had a log jam.
But still it's not like TJ and Ellington were playing heavy minutes over here (especially Ellington) so ease off the "rotation players" stuff. This move slides TJ's minutes to Dion so he can STFU about the issue and still gives Winslow plenty of minutes so his stans can STFU about the issue of him needing the minutes to reach his potential. All this while reducing the luxury tax hit.

Micky saves $10M from this move alone for dropping 2 players we didnt want anymore while taking 1 player we dont want. You cant always flat out win. Sometimes all you can do is minimize the losses.

TJ was averaging 25 MPG and was doing decent as a starter. He’s definitely a rotation player, he’s just not worth his backloaded contract. Both of those dudes are much better than Anderson, individually, much less combined.

I don’t really care about Dion’s ego because he’s been flat out worse than TJ in every single way on the court so he needs to play better before I give a damn about appeasing his especially when he has a higher usage rate than Winslow and TJ so he dominates the ball when he’s on the court.

I definitely liked Ellington and thought he was worth way more than tax relief filler.

But i agree, it’s a good tax move for Mickey and saves him some money. I don’t really know if I see any actual improvement to the on-court product, it doesn’t really free up cap space to make an actual move, or anything.

I guess it’s minimizing the loss but it seems more of a lateral move than a progressive one. The fact that our last two deadlines have been focused on tax relief over improving our team is annoying as fukk though.

 

[intruder]

TJ was averaging 25 MPG and was doing decent as a starter. He’s definitely a rotation player, he’s just not worth his backloaded contract. Both of those dudes are much better than Anderson, individually, much less combined.

I don’t really care about Dion’s ego because he’s been flat out worse than TJ in every single way on the court so he needs to play better before I give a damn about appeasing his especially when he has a higher usage rate than Winslow and TJ so he dominates the ball when he’s on the court.

I definitely liked Ellington and thought he was worth way more than tax relief filler.

But i agree, it’s a good tax move for Mickey and saves him some money. I don’t really know if I see any actual improvement to the on-court product, it doesn’t really free up cap space to make an actual move, or anything.

I guess it’s minimizing the loss but it seems more of a lateral move than a progressive one. The fact that our last two deadlines have been focused on tax relief over improving our team is annoying as fukk though.

Again, players we didnt want/werent playing. So why are you crying, b?

I still have hope Dion can play his way back into rotation and increase his value back up if given time. Once he gets rolling perhaps someone in dire need will take him off our hands

Tyler Johnson was making $19M+ this year and next year while Ellington was getting about $6.3M. That's a total of $44M
Meanwhile Anderson was set to make @20M this year and $15M next year. Thats $35M.
Easy decision for Micky and the FO

And dude! WE DIDNT WANT TJ ANYMORE ANYWAY. WE DIDNT WANT ELLINGTON ANYMORE ANYWAY. Why are you crying about this? THe deal is done. Let it go.

 

[LeoTheGreat]

How? It’s mostly a win for Arison because he gets tax relief but it doesn’t give us any cap relief, we lost two rotation players for a guy who can barely stay on the court, and Ellington is definitely worth more than just tax relief.

The past to trade deadlines have been mostly mad dashes for tax relief because of the Ugly contracts we handed out.

I mean, even if you buy him out next year, 15 million is still owed so we’re not really getting much cap relief either.

But shyt I’ve been wrong before. What do you like about the deal? Maybe I’m looking at it the wrong way.

Does nothing for us basketball wise except to open up minutes for Dion and let Justise continue cooking at PG. It might helps us next year when trying to get rid of Anderson's contract as an expiring. It's a bit of a lateral move but it had to be done to give us a little more flexibility next off-season. Sucks for TJ because if he was making the 12M average of his deal we probably keep him.

 

[He Who Posts Well]

Ellington gone too!? I was just thinking that with TJ gone, he would get more minutes

 

[Draje]

Again, players we didnt want/werent playing. So why are you crying, b?

I still have hope Dion can play his way back into rotation and increase his value back up if given time. Once he gets rolling perhaps someone in dire need will take him off our hands

Tyler Johnson was making $19M+ this year and next year while Ellington was getting about $6.3M. That's a total of $44M
Meanwhile Anderson was set to make @20M this year and $15M next year. Thats $35M.
Easy decision for Micky and the FO

And dude! WE DIDNT WANT TJ ANYMORE ANYWAY. WE DIDNT WANT ELLINGTON ANYMORE ANYWAY. Why are you crying about this? THe deal is done. Let it go.

I already told you that it saves Mickey money but it doesn’t free up cap space to use, it doesn’t improve the team in anyway, and TJ was playing more minutes than Anderson.

TJ was playing 25 a game and both of those players are still much better on the court than Anderson.

Mickey saves 9 million and trades two decent but overpaid players for an unplayable overpaid player.

It’s not a bad move but it’s mostly lateral. It doesn’t improve anything on the floor or free up cap space for next year.

If more comes from it, great.

As of now, it’s meh. It’s a rush to save money because we had our trash contracts and now they have to pay 35 million for a warm unplayable body on the bench over two years instead of 44 million for two decent players.

Great for Mickey though, we agree on that.

Does nothing for us basketball wise except to open up minutes for Dion and let Justise continue cooking at PG. It might helps us next year when trying to get rid of Anderson's contract as an expiring. It's a bit of a lateral move but it had to be done to give us a little more flexibility next off-season. Sucks for TJ because if he was making the 12M average of his deal we probably keep him.

Eh, we’re still capped out next season. It saves them about 5 million dollars so we’re not gonna be spending big money anyway.

Maybe there’s a game plan on the future but, like I said, it feels like the last couple of trade deadlines have been a rush for tax relief rather than on-court improvement which isn’t really fun.

Who knows...maybe we’lll start stealth rebuilding next year when guys like Hassanand Dragic are expiring.

 

[McPiff]

:francisheat:

 

[Makavalli]

Cant be mad at this move. I like it more and more as time goes by. Everybody gets minutes to shine or shyt the bed wuteva. Wade and haslem gone next year so even more time to see what we got by next deadline cause this year is a wash for us

 

[intruder]

Well all in all i'm fine with the trade. 'Yeah i wanted something for Ellington but if that's what it takes to ditch TJ's contract then fine. It gets us nowhere this year or in the near future but at least it:

• Alleviates the logjam we have at PG/SG in anticipation of Dragic's return
• We no longer have t keep playing TJ hoping to showcase him so that other teams can wanna trade for him.
• Allows more PT for Dion so that he either balls or gets decent enough so he could be trade bait
• Allows more PT for J-Rich for the same reason as Dion
• Ellington and his agent wont be complaining to the FO about his lack of playing time

As fans we have to understand that the FO fukked up shelling out so many draft picks in the past and only made it worst by doling out some of these recent contract. It's gonna take time to get themselves out of that jam.