Vladimir Putin admits to 360,000 “irretrievable” losses in Ukraine. (50,000-100,000 confirmed dead according to new report)

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Imagine if we gave the Ukrainians the good shyt at the beginning. We’d be in Moscow by now. :wow:

If they ever become at threat to Russia or they really took Crimea Washington DC would be a nuclear wasteland.

You do know there's Russian Subs all over the world now any one of them could and would fire nukes.
 

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With Marinka having been captured, Avdiivka on the way, Chasiv Yar on the way, and other crumblings along the entire front line, it’s looking just cascadingly bad for the Ukrainian side.

Zelenskyy won’t find 500,000 to replace his own losses (numerically similar to Russia’s) or boost weapons production.

Especially with Russia refurbishing Soviet stocks and the like, ten million rounds they bought from North Korea.

Next year will be bloody. Best to save Ukrainian life and create an armistice now!
 

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If they ever become at threat to Russia or they really took Crimea Washington DC would be a nuclear wasteland.

You do know there's Russian Subs all over the world now any one of them could and would fire nukes.
:laff: Yeah sure Orc.

Currently, the U.S. has 83 nuclear-powered ships: 72 submarines, 10 aircraft carriers and one research vessel. These NPWs make up about forty percent of major U.S. naval combatants, and they visit over 150 ports in over 50 countries, including approximately 70 ports in the U.S. and three in Japan.

Russia has modernized its fleet of submarines in recent years and now boasts 11 nuclear-powered submarines, according to the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation.



We got more and better hitters.
 
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In One Brutal Tank Battle Outside Avdiivka, The Russians Lost As Many As 21 Tanks. The Ukrainians Lost Two.​

The Kremlin is losing more tanks than it can replace.

Starting on Oct. 10, a powerful Russian force—a dozen regiments and brigades with around 40,000 people—attacked toward Avdiivka, a key Ukrainian stronghold just northwest of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine.

The Ukrainian garrison, anchored by the 110th Brigade and later reinforced by the 47th and 57th Brigades, was ready for the Russians. In 10 weeks of costly attacks, the Russian force advanced a mile or so north and south of Avdiivka. In the north, the Russians captured the village of Stepove.


But then, this week, the Ukrainians counterattacked. It’s possible they’ve liberated Stepove. At the very least, neither side controls the village. And in pushing back, the Ukrainians provoked a hasty countercounterattack that ended in disaster for the Russians.


In just a day or so, the Ukrainian 47th Brigade dismantled the lead Russian formation, reportedly a reinforced battalion with dozens of tanks and fighting vehicles and probably more than 500 people. “Preliminary reports are indicating that over half the Russian force failed to return to its starting positions,” analyst Donald Hill wrote in fellow analyst Tom Cooper’s newsletter.


Open-source intelligence analyst Andrew Perpetua’s rolling tally of Russian losses seems to confirm the disaster. On Wednesday alone, Perpetua verified the destruction of 21 Russian tanks as well as 14 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers.

Given current production rates for new vehicles, the entire Russian force in Ukraine can afford to lose just 50 tanks a month without depleting the Russian armed forces’ overall inventory of around 3,000 tanks. The regiments and brigades attacking Avdiivka lost nearly half that number in a single day.


It’s apparent how the Ukrainians won. Ukrainian scouts sneaked out at night to lay mines along the likely approaches between Russian positions and Stepove. Ukrainian drones targeted the attackers, even striking one BTR fighting vehicle laden with ammunition, triggering a massive explosion.

Any Russian vehicles that got past the mines and drones met the American-made M-2 Bradley fighting vehicles belonging to the 47th Brigade.

“Bradleys of the 47th Mech were scything the Russians to the left and right like there was no tomorrow,” Hill wrote. Against the M-2’s powerful 25-millimeter autocannons, the Russian fighting vehicles “stood not much chance.”

The battle cost the Ukrainians, too. The 47th Brigade probably had just a dozen or so German-made Leopard 2A6 tanks left out of the 18 it got as donations early this year. The brigade abandoned two more Leopard 2soutside Stepove this week. The only consolation is that the tanks might be recoverable and fixable.

But even if the Leopards are write-offs, it was a good trade. At the cost of two tanks, the Ukrainians destroyed dozens of Russian vehicles and killed potentially hundreds of Russian troops, adding to the 13,000 casualties Russia has suffered trying, and so far failing, to capture Avdiivka.

 
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:laff: Yeah sure Orc.

Currently, the U.S. has 83 nuclear-powered ships: 72 submarines, 10 aircraft carriers and one research vessel. These NPWs make up about forty percent of major U.S. naval combatants, and they visit over 150 ports in over 50 countries, including approximately 70 ports in the U.S. and three in Japan.

Russia has modernized its fleet of submarines in recent years and now boasts 11 nuclear-powered submarines, according to the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation.



We got more and better hitters.
You're really funny no one is saying that all of the Russian nukes will make it we see that the Russian airforce is a joke but one succesful strike will fukk up a city and the surrunding region.

If one missle hits with Kiev or Kissemee Florida the world's stock markets would crash It would be like a million COVID lockdown economiclly speaking Global trade would come to a standstill.

Listin homie nobody here gives a shyt what happens in this war other than the fact that it will take a blank check from us to buy a victory.

I few million dead white boys ain't nothing to be super concerned with. This is a Black Man dominated board if you want to be a Coli Strategic Genius then talk about the Sudan Civil War or how it looks like the Rwandans sent a couple battalions to Mozambique and check the local branch of Al-Queda
 

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I'm only interested in watching how warfare has changed, Drone warfare has improved and Artillery has become more acccurate in a peer on peer conflict the idea of Towed Artillery is dead if you can't move it you're guns will be destroyed.

But at the end of the day despite the informational warfare it's stalemated WW1 Trench warfare, Going that that Ukraine will need shytloads of Aid to outlast the Russians. Uke victory would be like the US supporting Germany so it could stay in the war and just like WW1 this war will end in a negotiated settlement.

Crimea is the linchpin of Russian Naval strategy, When Sweden joined NATO their Baltic and Artic strategy was dunzo. Frankly if they lose Crimea there's almost no reason for Russain to have a Navy except for a defensive Far east fleet.

Ukraine is not Isreal it's too easy for the west to lose the war by just cutting back not even all the way off on money and the rebuild process is gonna be a mess with all that corruption.
 

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And yet they still there
We are keep hearing that those Russians are fighting using senior citizens and soviet era weapons but they are in still in Ukraine? We've given Billions to Ukraine, I was hoping for a different result. Coli keeps on telling me Ukraine is winning.
 

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We are keep hearing that those Russians are fighting using senior citizens and soviet era weapons but they are in still in Ukraine? We've given Billions to Ukraine, I was hoping for a different result. Coli keeps on telling me Ukraine is winning.
what if i told you its possible that everyone involved is losing
 

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maintaining your sovereignty when attacked by a major nuclear power = a win

ukraine is holding their own and defending their existence...

if you dont think ukraine is winning...

then you definitely dont think the NVA won
their territory is thoroughly occupied no matter how you cut it. and what's left of the country is going to be debt incarnate for the next few generations at best, not even counting the human toll/displacement.

to say they're holding it down and shattering expectations is a given. that's still a long, long ways from achieving the sort of strategic resolution that would actually be a successful reclamation of their borders and the expulsion of russia.
 

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their territory is thoroughly occupied no matter how you cut it. and what's left of the country is going to be debt incarnate for the next few generations at best, not even counting the human toll/displacement.

to say they're holding it down and shattering expectations is a given. that's still a long, long ways from achieving the sort of strategic resolution that would actually be a successful reclamation of their borders and the expulsion of russia.
Thouroughly occupied?

Russia is in less than 30% of the country.

They only hold land close to their border with Ukraine.

To take all those losses for less than 30% of a country that is right next door to you. shyts a win so far. If everything stays the same, Russia will have to back down on pushing
 

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Thouroughly occupied?

Russia is in less than 30% of the country.

They only hold land close to their border with Ukraine.
30% is not insignificant cmon...

i can want them to win all i want, but they're still fighting to get their land back at the end of the day. you gotta actively change what strategic victory means to say a country that has lost its land is winning.
 

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30% is not insignificant cmon...

i can want them to win all i want, but they're still fighting to get their land back at the end of the day. you gotta actively change what strategic victory means to say a country that has lost its land is winning.

War in Ukraine: Russia now controls only 16% of Ukrainian territory​

IN GRAPHS - After conquering 24.4% of Ukrainian territory in March, the Russian army retreated until it controlled only 16.5% in December.

 
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