VICE: Does racial resentment fuel opposition to paying college athletes?

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Did you know that not every athlete on Alabama's football team is on a full scholarship? Some of these guys are walk-ons. That means they have to take LOANS and PAY to play for the football team while the top guys get tuition room and board for FREE...How does that work??? :mindblown:
We obviously aren't talking about walk-ons when it comes to paying players are we???:mindblown:
 

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We obviously aren't talking about walk-ons when it comes to paying players are we???:mindblown:

Does anyone read my posts? I'm all for the top athletes getting paid. I'm just wondering what happens to the other 95% of the athletes

They get smaller stipends, free food and tuition. Or nothing...just like walk-ons.
 

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Did you know that not every athlete on Alabama's football team is on a full scholarship? Some of these guys are walk-ons. That means they have to take LOANS and PAY to play for the football team while only the top guys get tuition room and board for FREE...How does that work??? :mindblown:

Dog, why in the world are you wasting your time with this nincompoop?
 

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They get smaller stipends, free food and tuition. Or nothing...just like walk-ons.
Ok that makes sense although I'm not so sure how that would sit with 95% of the team. And this would only apply obviously to the 20 schools that make money. What about the other 100 D 1 schools?
 

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I mean I hope what y'all are suggesting does happen. It would only make the best teams even stronger.

I just don't want a full system implemented for every school or some shyt which means tuition goes up
 

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Dog, why in the world are you wasting your time with this nincompoop?
lol I just wanted to make the point about how walk-ons already experience the "crippling unfairness" of unequal compensation between top recruits and the rest of the team. They argue that it will destroy teams but somehow these programs manage to survive...

Not giving any energy to that fool
 

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And the NCAA isn't just going to let a few schools pay their players when the others don't have the money to do so.. Not sure what is so hard for all of u to grasp about that. Falls under the whole unfair advantage thing
 

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Tuition is going up regardless....
Well I mean yea inflation and all lol. But obviously it will go up a lot more if the NCAA starts granting student athletes spending money on top of what they already get.

Like the top players don't already get paid under the table...just make it legal and cut athletes in on the merch while you're at it
Yea what everyone is suggesting in here would just make it easier for the top schools to pay their players. Thus causing every top player to go to the few top schools. And killing NCAA football
 

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That's what they wanna avoid. It's an all or nothing thing
Education, books, room and board, gourmet meal plans, free transportation, fancy hotels, etc. That's easily 100 racks and above for 4 year players
How is their worth determined?
Ok so how do u determine how much each individual athlete is worth? U can't..

There's a simple solution to all your questions. How is the worth of most things in this country determined? The answer to that is called free market. The NCAA does not have to determine the worth of any athlete, let the free market decide that. The biggest issue isn't that athletes aren't getting paid it's that athletes are being RESTRICTED from being paid. By that I mean if a booster wants to give an athlete $50,000 to come to their school, Why is that a problem? If Ohio State wants to pay a player on top of the free education, room and board, etc that they offer, why is that a problem?

I'll use an analogy. Let's say there's a genius young scientist in high school. They do a project and it's really grounbreaking. And for that effort Harvard tells them hey, if you come to our school we'll waive all your costs and pay you $50,000 a year to your research efforts/stipend. But then Stanford steps in and says we'll match Harvard's offer but instead of $50,000 we'll give you $75,000 and a car. And on top of that Google steps in and offers them an additional $50,000 for them to go to Stanford because they want this scholar in the Bay Area. Would anyone have a problem with this?

Why is that situation any different than a premier athlete?

Here's the simple solution to this. You do not have to instate a rule that makes Universities have to pay players. All you have to do is remove the rules that restrict them from being paid by anyone (boosters, sponsors, etc). Let the free market decide. That's literally how compensation in EVERY industry in the united states works. Hell YOUR Doctor is being paid money by pharmaceutical companies to influence the medicine they prescribe you. That's a far more egregious abuse of our capitalistic society than anything. What about the politicians that are being paid to influence the laws that are passed that effect our daily lives? Those are the industries that need to be policed, not college athletics.
 
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Ok what don't I know about how a university or major football program works Please enlighten me..:russ: And I'm currently enrolled in a university business program. I think I know my fair share about capitalism as well.. But once again humor me, please. Would love to know ur genius point of view

Obviously just about nothing.

The problem nobody points out is the system was once fair, but now it's just outdated.

80 years ago a school saying "hey come play for us and we'll pay ur education, room, board etc" Well that was pretty fair for both parties when only 200 fans came t to games, no TV exposure & contracts, no jersey sales etc.

Now all that stuff makes billions of dollars for the NCAA, but the scholarship model hasn't really changed.

So therein lies the main issue
 

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There's a simple solution to all your questions. How is the worth of most things in this country determined? The answer to that is called free market. The NCAA does not have to determine the worth of any athlete, let the free market decide that. The biggest issue isn't that athletes aren't getting paid it's that athletes are being RESTRICTED from being paid. By that I mean if a booster wants to give an athlete $50,000 to come to their school, Why is that a problem? If Ohio State wants to pay a player on top of the free education, room and board, etc that they offer, why is that a problem?

I'll use an analogy. Let's say there's a genius young scientist in high school. They do a project and it's really grounbreaking. And for that effort Harvard tells them hey, if you come to our school we'll waive all your costs and pay you $50,000 a year to your research efforts/stipend. But then Stanford steps in and says we'll match Harvard's offer but instead of $50,000 we'll give you $75,000 and a car. And on top of that Google steps in and offers them an additional $50,000 for them to go to Stanford because they want this scholar in the Bay Area. Would anyone have a problem with this?

Why is that situation any different than a premier athlete?

Here's the simple solution to this. You do not have to in state a rule that makes Universities have to pay players. All you have to do is remove the rules the restrict the from being paid. Let the free market decide.
Yea it makes some sense in theory. But can u not see how this would kill college football over time? Only a few schools have the money to pay players. It would be an unfair advantage NCAA won't allow that to happen.
 
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