VICE: Does racial resentment fuel opposition to paying college athletes?
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I never said anything about getting paid
I know my future is setYea if players start getting paid it won't be that free market shyt. The NCAA will have a system that benefits everyone casuing tuition to go up... That's a concern for every currrent student not just me, read some articles.
There are these things called grants and loans maybe u have heard of them
I'm sorry I wasn't a big football star or come from a rich family like u, not sure what u want me to say
You ain't gotta say nothing, you are what you areI never said anything about getting paid
Yea if players start getting paid it won't be that free market shyt. The NCAA will have a system that benefits everyone casuing tuition to go up... That's a concern for every currrent student not just me, read some articles.
There are these things called grants and loans maybe u have heard of them
So they're being racist when it comes to football but not for any of the other sports
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star players should be able to profit off thier names, fukk all this equality shyt. if you not making money for the school then your not getting paid for your sport, facts.
only a small number of schools and players would be able to pay anything anyway, and Colin is not wrong btw.
only a small number of schools and players would be able to pay anything anyway, and Colin is not wrong btw.
I understand the reason for amateur sports rules, but how are they trying to apply those rules to college football/basketball players when the only people getting compensated like amateurs are the players? Paying coaches millions a year then acting like it's a crime against nature to give a player some crumbs? shyt, don't even have to make them rich or even revenue share, give them $20-30K a year each. The highest paid coaches are pulling $6M/ year PLUS all those benefits. Split that across the team and that's $60K/year per player.
To keep it 100, I would say, player salaries have to be some percentage of program profits + staff salaries. That way some 12D football program doesn't have to pay out the same amount as Alabama.
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Baseball isn't regularly the top TV program in America.
College baseball is about as relevant as women's basketball. They're not generating money.
"March Madness" is.
College football is.
The best baseball players usually don't even step foot on a college campus, as a large percentage of them are foreign or drafted straight out of high-school.
When is the last time the most famous athlete in America was a college baseball player?
When is the last time a college baseball/hockey/golf game was in primetime on ABC/NBC/CBS/Fox
U have obviously never played baseball or football
Why don't more players just go to the CFL out of high school instead of college? Easy solution that doesn't involve killing off any football programs.
Or why don't the people who find a way to make college coaches the highest paid public employees in 39 states find a way to either pay the players, enable them to make money on their own, or go the fukk out of business if they can't afford it?
The colleges themselves might not profit from having a baseball/track/volleyball team but the NCAA does. The NCAA profits from every sport.Baseball isn't regularly the top TV program in America.
College baseball is about as relevant as women's basketball. They're not generating money.
"March Madness" is.
College football is.
The best baseball players usually don't even step foot on a college campus, as a large percentage of them are foreign or drafted straight out of high-school.
When is the last time the most famous athlete in America was a college baseball player?
When is the last time a college baseball/hockey/golf game was in primetime on ABC/NBC/CBS/Fox
Or why don't the people who find a way to make college coaches the highest paid public employees in 39 states find a way to either pay the players, enable them to make money on their own, or go the fukk out of business if they can't afford it?
I can see why they don't pay players honestly that would cause all kind of parity issues. Texas, for instance, could just outspend everyone and get the best athletes every year. That would ruin college football...
On the other hand my main issue was the NCAA preventing players from making money off their own likeness
That is a huge invasion of someone's rights imo.
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That's not true though because the ultimate goal of all of these kids is going to the league and making $100 million over a career.
It would be better for you, if you wanted to be a first round draft pick and make millions to go somewhere you could play.
If there's 10 great quarterbacks graduating from high-school this year, why would say 3 of them go to Alabama? Only one of them can play at a time and the other ones are going to waste the next 4 years of their lives.
Okay, so they make say half a mil playing in college, but they're not getting drafted (at least not highly) as bench players who aren't getting to play in bowl games, so their draft stock slips.
That's why dudes are wrong when they talk about a few schools dominating all the talent, because the only way most of those dudes will ever get to the big money is to show the NFL that they are competitors.
They're generating BILLIONS
Then why pay Nick Saban $7 million? Why spend so much money recruiting?
If you could just put any product out there and people would watch, then why would they waste money?
The idea that individual players don't really matter that much is downright asinine.
Dude, it's the only way to be able to do their vocation. It'd be like forcing Michael Jackson to perform for a "college scholarship" instead of paying him. He's not trying to be a doctor or lawyer, he's trying to moonwalk. There's nobody in their right mind who'd argue that Epic records paying him in "tuition, room & board" would be adequate compesnation for him making Thriller.
Johnny Manziel, they estimated brought in $120 million dollars in ONE SEASON at Texas A&M.
Then, they go out of business, what's the problem?
Only about 20 schools are relevant anyway.
Pretty much USC, Texas, Notre Dame, Alabama, Florida schools, and a few others win championships anyway.
Then don't have sports. Just like if you have a business that can't afford to pay it's employees, they don't make the argument that
Oh eat a dikk. With your logic we shouldn't pay young musicians or actors who generate millions of dollars because there's lots of people in Hollywood struggling and working at waiters.
Guess what? A lot of these guys are training every day of their lives from the time they can walk to be able to play a sport. Don't get mad at them because they're better at what they do than anybody you've ever met in your life is at what they do.
Dude, if you told Justin Bieber, yeah, you sold millions of records, but we're not gonna give you money, we're gonna give you "education, bills, food, etc. . ", he'd look at you like.
There's no way you can argue that people who are literally generating billion dollar TV contracts and some of them are some of the most famous people in America at any given time (Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel, Cam Newton were) shouldn't be compensated beyond room, board , & education
That's a bad arguement, because guys want to go to the NFL. How would going to OSU to sit on the bench for 4 years benefit a guy who would want to be drafted no.1 in the draft?
It would benefit guys to spread out, just because they need the NFL to see how good they are, so they can really make the big, big NFL money.
Plus, why would Nike, Addidas, Under Armour, etc. . . want to sponsor bench players? They wouldn't.
A guy like Johnny Manziel was worth more at Texas A&M than he would've been being a back up quarterback at Alabama.
Let the free market do it. How do record companies determine a rappers value before he's made his first album?
Only about 30 or 40 schools are relevant anyway. Most of these schools would be better off focusing on education only, like they do in the rest of the world?
Dude, ESPN has done TONS of stories about how athletes educations from some of these major universities aint shyt, and how coaches tell them which classes they can and cannot take based on how much it interferes with football.
This is the post of the thread.
A pimp essentially says.
I take all of the hoes money because I provide a roof over their head, I'm the one who buys their clothes, feeds them, and gets them out of jail if they get busted.
If I let them have the money, then, they'd spend it on dumb shyt. I keep them organized.
How is this ANY different than the argument against paying players in NCAA?
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@JALEN HURTS not sure if i can be bothered with all 22 pages but did that @Walt nikka end up illuminating us mere mortals with his vast knowledge or did he just keep deflecting?
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Read the entire thread, was surprised no one brought up Title IX in this debate.
How can we reasonably pay male student athletes and not expect that the female student athletes are not going to be paid with parity? The revenues are vastly different, but in this climate with the equal pay conversation remaining a sensitive topic, how could the schools get away with not paying across the board?
Seems like paying the athletes will simply lead to more lawsuits. The only fix (to me anyway), seems to let the athletes get endorsements and make money off their likeness. Anything else, seems like a litigator's dream.
How can we reasonably pay male student athletes and not expect that the female student athletes are not going to be paid with parity? The revenues are vastly different, but in this climate with the equal pay conversation remaining a sensitive topic, how could the schools get away with not paying across the board?
Seems like paying the athletes will simply lead to more lawsuits. The only fix (to me anyway), seems to let the athletes get endorsements and make money off their likeness. Anything else, seems like a litigator's dream.