Verzuz Presents: Fat Joe vs Ja Rule 9/14 @ 9PM ET

[Deltron]

I haven’t watched the whole battle yet, but the crowd didn’t react at all to any of the hard shyt Joe or Ja was playing. I turned it off when I saw Put it on me get the biggest reaction of the night
Clearly this was a crowd of commercial leaning, only listen to the radio, casual fans.
It’s unfortunate that they wield so much influence on how the battle was perceived. I personally thought Joe was dominating the early rounds.

Ja was one of the biggest commercial rappers of the late 90's, 2000s...I'm sure you're aware of that, so the crowd isn't surprising.

 

[mobbinfms]

Ja was one of the biggest commercial rappers of the late 90's, 2000s...I'm sure you're aware of that, so the crowd isn't surprising.

No doubt. I just wonder what would have happened if Joe got the same crowd as Lox vs Dipset. That crowd seemed to be more in tune with the culture.

 

[nieman]

I haven’t watched the whole battle yet, but the crowd didn’t react at all to any of the hard shyt Joe or Ja was playing. I turned it off when I saw Put it on me get the biggest reaction of the night
Clearly this was a crowd of commercial leaning, only listen to the radio, casual fans.
It’s unfortunate that they wield so much influence on how the battle was perceived. I personally thought Joe was dominating the early rounds.

It was mostly women. Survival of the Fittest didn't get much of a response either....then again neither did Benjamins, surprisingly, but it got a better response than Mobb.

Hell, Fat Joe started it with Flow Joe. Ja's first was Murdagramm. It's apparent most of the crowd never heard Murdagramm, and Ja has the worst verse, so how was that better than Flow Joe? Even if we go off beat alone...

I haven't seen it all. But from what I saw Joe doing his Big L track and a bunch of hardcore, classic, respectable joints - looking dope army green etc - what's terrifying is even cats saying here - fukk those joints Ja came through with the hits - and the crowds eating that up?

Nah. When Ja came out the indie scene and artists like Fat Joe put out incredible hip hop. None of us were listening to Ja Rule except for waking to his music on the radio.

Something is off with hip hop fans.

How does Boom Bap not sound amazing, hard and taking the win over soft songs?

It's my perspective. But I want the general hip hop consensus to go with Fat Joe or that type of rap in general.

We gotta save hip hop. It's serious.

Hip-Hop is truly dead. Even on this board, it's very concentrated on what's hot/popular, and not hip-hop as a whole. These people don't even be listening to the albums they praise or bash.

 

[Deltron]

No doubt. I just wonder what would have happened if Joe got the same crowd as Lox vs Dipset. That crowd seemed to be more in tune with the culture.

yeah, would've been interesting if it was more of that crowd.

Makes me wonder who could joe have gone up against to garner that type of crowd

 

[mobbinfms]

yeah, would've been interesting if it was more of that crowd.

Makes me wonder who could joe have gone up against to garner that type of crowd

Jada or Cam.

 

[Deltron]

kiss would be good...might have been funnier too and not this fake hostile shyt he pulled with Ja

 

[mobbinfms]

kiss would be good...might have been funnier too and not this fake hostile shyt he pulled with Ja

Kiss would have destroyed him though.
Problem for Joe is he was never that guy with the pen in the way Jada or Cam was.
Low key that’s probably why the crowd was mostly women there for Ja.
Maybe Joe vs Nore would be a good match.

 

[Jefferson Jackson]

 

[nieman]

kiss would be good...might have been funnier too and not this fake hostile shyt he pulled with Ja

That's how Joe talks...always has been. That's how he is interviews, that's how he is on his albums, that's how he is on his live. It wasn't fake hostile...he talks HEAVY HEAVY. And that's he & Ja's relationship...and Irv. They crack 80s offensive jokes. This was standard for us Generation X hood kids growing up.

 

[LEEeveryday]

Ja Rule won this pretty handedly.

Perception and reality is a crazy thing.

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

kiss would be good...might have been funnier too and not this fake hostile shyt he pulled with Ja

The UnderJada is on an undefeated streak at Verzuzmania. No-one wants those problems

 

[mson]

No doubt. I just wonder what would have happened if Joe got the same crowd as Lox vs Dipset. That crowd seemed to be more in tune with the culture.

I was thinking the same. The Lox Vs dipset crowd was as good as you're going to get for an event like that. They had an appreciation for the street shyt and the radio shyt. Joe thought he was getting that crowd. Both Joe and Ja's early records would've killed in front of that audience.

 

[Frida Giezman]

No doubt. I just wonder what would have happened if Joe got the same crowd as Lox vs Dipset. That crowd seemed to be more in tune with the culture.

Stop it

they didn’t even know the I shot ya freestyle or chest to chest

 

[Crumple]

It was mostly women. Survival of the Fittest didn't get much of a response either....then again neither did Benjamins, surprisingly, but it got a better response than Mobb.

Hell, Fat Joe started it with Flow Joe. Ja's first was Murdagramm. It's apparent most of the crowd never heard Murdagramm, and Ja has the worst verse, so how was that better than Flow Joe? Even if we go off beat alone...


Hip-Hop is truly dead. Even on this board, it's very concentrated on what's hot/popular, and not hip-hop as a whole. These people don't even be listening to the albums they praise or bash.

Nieman, thank you. You get it and hip hop needs people like you to show the real hip hop.

 

[mobbinfms]

Stop it

they didn’t even know the I shot ya freestyle or chest to chest

But they responded to it. There wouldn’t have been a peep out of the Joe/Ja crowd.
The cultural sensibilities and points of reference were different.