Ya' Cousin Cleon
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I wiped my hands of WWE after Vader left, only tuned in for The Rock, SCSA and DX.
Vader had a bad rep for working stiff, and when that happens any talent with pull backstage will try to affect your career path if they think you tried to hurt them in the ring. There is no doubt in my mind that hurt him in both WCW and WWF.
Oh, you only tuned into 3 parts that made up 90% of the shows? Glad you stuck by your convictions.
Then there was this, as noted in the interview clip, he was in fact scheduled to have an IC title run before it happened:
Shut the fukk up bytch
you brought up some good points. this is a great thread.
i was a huge Vader fan but it pissed me off the way he fell off. when it comes to the business aspect, you have to give him props for passing the torch if you will - that's only true if you look at that way (if you think wrestling is not real lol)
That's what happens when you become a weepy eyed fat piece of shyt who won't protector your gimmick because you're afraid of confrontation with anyone. Vader was beyond washed at this point and the only reason his AJPW run after was good was because he had 4 of the best dudes in the world willing to kill themselves to make him look good while he stiffed the shyt out of them and couldn't do anything else.
at least he made an appearance on tv showsBasically the only positive out of the whole thing he was a still popular name that was over with the fans, so it was still easy for crowds to get behind him vs everybody. The laundry list of names he ate pins to during that period is insane. 11 year old me couldn't figure out why he was losing so much. 30 year old me understandseven if it's still sad and embarrassing looking back on it.
Crazy the timing of this uppage
He’s been saying he’s dying for the past 2-3 years now.