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#BelieveAllWomen wasn't about the accused, it's about the accuser. The Dr. Tyson seems believable to me. She came forward sooner, her accusation is more serious, she's more specific about time and place...:francis: I'd have though she'd have more support. :yeshrug:

i'm only speaking to why many people were less willing to accept his denials...
 
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Northam is a horrible piece of shyt for what he did but this is Politics. Everyone involved is dirty to some degree. This where blacks and the Democrats have to be smarter and more strategic.

Why cut off your nose to spite your face? Republicans ain't making their racists step down! Dems will cut their own soldiers head off over "morals". Republicans ain't got no goddamn morals!!! This is politics, you don't have to love me but do something for my community and I don't give a fukk what you do in your spare time.

LBJ used to say ni66a all the time. Yet he is the President that has done the most for Blacks since Lincoln. If MLK was built like these soft ass people today he would be talking about why he can't work with LBJ because he uses the N word. :snoop:

The blacks in VA should be like "Northam can stay but as long as he in office he needs to do things to directly benefit the community he was mocking". Use this as leverage to extort his ass. All these force resignations due to moral and conduct reasons will only put Republicans back in charge and they will show your ass the difference for real.
Northam only has one term. You can’t really leverage anything. Not even Republicans would threaten impeachment over something 30 years ago in a yearbook.
 

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Northam is a horrible piece of shyt for what he did but this is Politics. Everyone involved is dirty to some degree. This where blacks and the Democrats have to be smarter and more strategic.

Why cut off your nose to spite your face? Republicans ain't making their racists step down! Dems will cut their own soldiers head off over "morals". Republicans ain't got no goddamn morals!!! This is politics, you don't have to love me but do something for my community and I don't give a fukk what you do in your spare time.

LBJ used to say ni66a all the time. Yet he is the President that has done the most for Blacks since Lincoln. If MLK was built like these soft ass people today he would be talking about why he can't work with LBJ because he uses the N word. :snoop:

The blacks in VA should be like "Northam can stay but as long as he in office he needs to do things to directly benefit the community he was mocking". Use this as leverage to extort his ass. All these force resignations due to moral and conduct reasons will only put Republicans back in charge and they will show your ass the difference for real
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that is what a politically attuned group would do. the problem is we have terrible leadership who are more concerned with mainstream approval. if fairfax has to go, which it's looking like will happen, the black community should support herring - i feel like between he and northam, his situation was marginally less terrible
 

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No Democrat should resign for ANY reason until Trump is out.

Any scandal that comes up, Dems should say "What would you do if Trump did it? Oh, nothing? Excuse it? Say it's fake? Okay."


Aside from the treason stuff, which he’s being investigated for, Trump’s behavior was known. The Central Park kids, sued for discrimination, Trump Uni, the tape. The voters didn’t care.

Fairfax stuff wasn’t mentioned during the race.
 

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Aside from the treason stuff, which he’s being investigated for, Trump’s behavior was known. The Central Park kids, sued for discrimination, Trump Uni, the tape. The voters didn’t care.

Fairfax stuff wasn’t mentioned during the race.
We didn't know about the porn star payments iirc.
 

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Bad game isnt why your post sucks

Forcing rape context on average sexual interactions is something I'd only expect to hear from homosexuals and virgins. And I say that as literally as possible with all due respect.

Good game doesn't sound any less "rapey" to a fakkit if they draw sexual assault implications from the notion of a man being alone with a woman :yeshrug: i just wonder how a man comes to such a conclusion if he has sex with women. Your own logic would compromise yourself unless you are out here having sex on the sidewalk all the time.

And since you refused to speak on THAT instead of this corny "mack lessons" spin, discussion over.
:russ: Yeah you clearly use false pretenses to get chicks in bed with you and caught feelings.

I don't understand what you lurk ass predatory nikkas do not get.

STOP USING FALSE PRETENSES TO fukk CHICKS. That is quite literally what everyone who believes Dr. Tyon's story is keyed in on.

Oh yeah and the bolded makes you sound like a rapist b.
 

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that is what a politically attuned group would do. the problem is we have terrible leadership who are more concerned with mainstream approval. if fairfax has to go, which it's looking like will happen, the black community should support herring - i feel like between he and northam, his situation was marginally less terrible
Or.

Or.

The democrat's electorate base is composed of a large group of woman of color and not white evangelical women who dismiss these issues :jbhmm:
 

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My thing is this, how do you force your dikk in someone's mouth. I've had girls that didn't want to give head and know what they'd do. Close their mouth or turn their head and say no. If she ain't want to give him head that bad and he's trying to use force bite his shyt and run out the room. Tell him no. Put up more of a fight. We don't know if she's exaggerating how much force he put on the top of her head. She could easily have felt guilty about him getting head from her and never calling back.

Plus on top of that what happened when they went back to the conference they were at. If she had just been sexually assaulted you would think somebody at the conference would have noticed. Did she not tell somebody there that it happened? I just don't feel comfortable in a pure he said she said situation. Now if more accusers come forward boot his ass.

The contention is that they are scared and intimidated, and do perform the oral sex, or to a degree, but it is under the implied threat and circumstances, not the actual desire to perform oral sex. I know it's hard to imagine for some, but this shyt happens. Ask women. Read about these kinds of things. Many women just considered it "bad sex" or "bad date", until cultural norms became more accepting, and rightfully so.

A LOT of women have had these experiences. Because sex isn't taught or considered socially a mutually pleasurable experience, it's taught as something men extract from women, or at least convince them they are enjoying, or even, fukk them til the women "want it".
 

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The contention is that they are scared and intimidated, and do perform the oral sex, or to a degree, but it is under the implied threat and circumstances, not the actual desire to perform oral sex. I know it's hard to imagine for some, but this shyt happens. Ask women. Read about these kinds of things. Many women just considered it "bad sex" or "bad date", until cultural norms became more accepting, and rightfully so.

A LOT of women have had these experiences. Because sex isn't taught or considered socially a mutually pleasurable experience, it's taught as something men extract from women, or at least convince them they are enjoying, or even, fukk them til the women "want it".
That's my thing though, at least tell me you opened your mouth and let dude no you didn't want to do it. If we've already been kissing and I'm turned on the mind is distracted. To hit him with a sexual assault charge because he couldn't read body language is ridiculous to me. It reminds me of that Aziz Anzari situation.

I can't look back on something 15 years ago through the prism of the ethics of today.

And I'm not trying to be insensitive through what women go through. I have way more female friends than male and many have told me of experiences of being raped or foul shyt men have done. When the Aziz shyt hit I was curious about their perspectives on it and the majority stated that they don't blame the man if they didn't verbalize or at least strongly tell them no.
 

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:russ: Yeah you clearly use false pretenses to get chicks in bed with you and caught feelings.

I don't understand what you lurk ass predatory nikkas do not get.

STOP USING FALSE PRETENSES TO fukk CHICKS. That is quite literally what everyone who believes Dr. Tyon's story is keyed in on.

Oh yeah and the bolded makes you sound like a rapist b.
Homosexual it is.


HL posters really have no ground for how prententious yall act compared to the tlr population in discussions .

You over here assuming shyt about a stranger trying to crack jokes because you sound like a delusional incel scared of a charge for being a heterosexual. There is no difference on any subforum for how fast a discussion shifts to obnoxious and anti intellectual posts when folks get caught saying stupid shyt.

Only difference here is this subforum houses the types of lames who let lesbians brainwash them into being uncomfortable with being alone with women :russ: my nikka is 2 womens marches away from suckin dikk. Be great
 
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That's my thing though, at least tell me you opened your mouth and let dude no you didn't want to do it. If we've already been kissing and I'm turned on the mind is distracted. To hit him with a sexual assault charge because he couldn't read body language is ridiculous to me. It reminds me of that Aziz Anzari situation.

I can't look back on something 15 years ago through the prism of the ethics of today.

And I'm not trying to be insensitive through what women go through. I have way more female friends than male and many have told me of experiences of being raped or foul shyt men have done. When the Aziz shyt hit I was curious about their perspectives on it and the majority stated that they don't blame the man if they didn't verbalize or at least strongly tell them no.

It's extremely nuanced and complicated, I condone none of it, but things like overly aggressive sexual advances and "begging for it", are long accepted by men AND women, which makes it all the more messier, because in some ways they are conditioned for that. I don't do that, and never have. But, I have done things, that in hindsight, was just me assuming consent. That isn't right. Again, that was 15 years ago, I was a minor.

She may have been too conflicted and too scared to voice that. And, also, he hasn't been charged formally. This is an allegation of character and behavior, more so than legal. I will say, that her account should not end when it does. That is not about her emotional pain, but just to understand what transpired. After he began to force, her, and after. What was the conversation?

We can't really blame someone for not being strong enough or assertive enough, even if ones natural reaction may be to do that.
 
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