US Sponsored “Color Revolution” Struggles in Hong Kong. UPDATE: US Target Xinjiang

[Cynic]

breh.... you just compared china's response to people talking shyt about the government....
to the US's response to people planning/enacting terrorist attacks....

you are so brainwashed you don't see the irony in your choice of comparison...

A lot of people are satisfied with the way things are and have no reason to complain.

Why are you ignoring this part ?

 

[loyola llothta]

'Hong Kong is a Chinese Affair,' China Warns the United States

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  Military vehicles parked at the Shenzhen Bay Sports Center in Shenzhen, China August 15, 2019. | Photo: Reuters

Published 15 August 2019

President Donald Trump's recent social media messages triggered a clear response from Beijing.

The Chinese Foreign Affairs Ministry reminded Thursday that Hong Kong is a special administrative region of China and "no country has the right to interfere in China's internal affairs."

"We have noted that President Trump has previously said that 'Hong Kong is part of China and they have to solve it for themselves, without (external) recommendations,'" Hua Chunying, the Foreign Affairs spokesperson recalled and warned that "we hope the U.S. will do what it says."

This was Beijing's response to a message posted by the U.S President Donald Trump on Twitter, inviting China's President Xi Jinping to meet to discuss the Hong Kong crisis.

Trump tweeted: “I know President Xi of China very well. He is a great leader who very much has the respect of his people. He is also a good man in a 'tough business.' I have ZERO doubt that if President Xi wants to quickly and humanely solve the Hong Kong problem, he can do it. Personal meeting?”

Since March, Hong Kong has become the scene of protests in the rejection of a new extradition law. In 1997, when the United Kingdom returned this territory to the Asian country, Beijing undertook to maintain the autonomy of Hong Kong until 2047, a commitment that was summarized in the slogan "One country, two systems."

The Foreign Ministry spokesperson also responded to the inclusion of four Chinese nuclear power companies to the U.S. commercial blacklist.

"China is strongly opposed to the U.S. damaging the interests of China and the world through unilateral actions and protectionist policies," she said and asked that Washington "put an end to wrong practices" and "solve the problems through peer to peer queries.”

Regarding the situation of the trade war Trump has been fighting since March 2018, Hua said that her country will retaliate against the latest U.S. tariffs, although she also reiterated a commitment “to seek acceptable solutions through dialogue.”

'Hong Kong is a Chinese Affair,' China Warns the United States

 

[Savvir]

A lot of people are satisfied with the way things are and have no reason to complain.

Why are you ignoring this part ?

Because there's no way to discern people who are satisfied from those who are terrified when freedom of speech doesn't exist.

Which is exactly what makes you the brain washed one. You compare slavery to people talking shyt.

I compared not having freedom to not having freedom. If you were black you would understand.

 

[Cynic]

Because there's no way to discern people who are satisfied from those who are terrified when freedom of speech doesn't exist.

I compared not having freedom to not having freedom. If you were black you would understand.

It wouldn't matter because they follow Confucian values.

You can't compare servitude with no pay plus rape and beatings to disgruntlement ...

 

[ZoeGod]

People in the west have to understand that Democrat is not the only form of government that works. People think that if a country has democracy that all its problems go away. Look at the US even though it has democracy black people are still treated like second class citizens and income inequality worsening every year. The Chinese mindset is different because they are an authoritarian people. They prefer order over freedom. Why? It’s traced to their history. Before the communist revolution the country was in total chaos with thousands of warlords fighting each other. In the midst of the chaos murder, pillage, rape was all committed with little consequence. So their mindset is order over chaos. History usually determines a nations mindset.

 

[Savvir]

It wouldn't matter because they follow Confucian values.

You can't compare servitude with no pay plus rape and beatings to disgruntlement ...

1. If Confucian values were as widespread and instilled as much as you are insinuating then the government wouldnt have the human rights record it has. You're basically the same as people who think the US the doesn't have inequality issues because the Constitution and the founding fathers principles grant equality to all. The actuality of the situation differs from the idealistic view of what "should" be.

2. Beatings and stripping of freedom due to disgruntlement sounds like a good parallel to beatings and loss of freedom that come from slavery. Mental slavery. Inability to express contradictory opinions openly. Fear of being reported by your peers. Restriction of reading material. Restriction from knowing history. I don't know what else to say to you.

 

[Savvir]

. The Chinese mindset is different because they are an authoritarian people. They prefer order over freedom.

The Hong Kong protestors are risking their livelihood for the exact opposite of this statement.

 

[ZoeGod]

The Hong Kong protestors are risking their livelihood for the exact opposite of this statement.

Not even close. Hong King and Mainland China’s history’s are totally different. Hong Kong was colonized by the UK from the 1860s-1997. So their experience is totally different from mainland China in those years. While China was going through the pre communist era of chaos and warlordism they were under UK control. So they have a western mindset.

 

[Cynic]

1. If Confucian values were as widespread and instilled as much as you are insinuating then the government wouldnt have the human rights record it has. You're basically the same as people who think the US the doesn't have inequality issues because the Constitution and the founding fathers principles grant equality to all. The actuality of the situation differs from the idealistic view of what "should" be.

My point is in reference to how the majority citizenry views the CCP. It's based on Confucian values.

2. Beatings and stripping of freedom due to disgruntlement sounds like a good parallel to beatings and loss of freedom that come from slavery. Mental slavery. Inability to express contradictory opinions openly. Fear of being reported by your peers. Restriction of reading material. Restriction from knowing history. I don't know what else to say to you.

It's a terrible comparison and you should be ashamed to even draw such a comparison. Like seriously?

 

[Savvir]

My point is in reference to how the majority citizenry views the CCP. It's based on Confucian values.



It's a terrible comparison and you should be ashamed to even draw such a comparison. Like seriously?

1. Until you have widespread free speech what can you base your opinion on other than the economic stability of the population?

2. The Hong Kong protestors strongly disagree with your assessment.

 

[Red Shield]

Years from now yall will learn how the c. I. A funded all the bs

Years from now...

nah way sooner then that

Don't even see the point of this shyt. The time for the usa being able to contain China has passed.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

People in the west have to understand that Democrat is not the only form of government that works. People think that if a country has democracy that all its problems go away. Look at the US even though it has democracy black people are still treated like second class citizens and income inequality worsening every year. The Chinese mindset is different because they are an authoritarian people. They prefer order over freedom. Why? It’s traced to their history. Before the communist revolution the country was in total chaos with thousands of warlords fighting each other. In the midst of the chaos murder, pillage, rape was all committed with little consequence. So their mindset is order over chaos. History usually determines a nations mindset.

smh. A non-Chinese player cannot be MVP of the CBA. That decision has nothing to do with the system of government; same with democracy and other systems of government

I wish you folks would stop watering down Black folk's plight to push your propaganda

 

[Cynic]

1. Until you have widespread free speech what can you base your opinion on other than the economic stability of the population?

2. The Hong Kong protestors strongly disagree with your assessment.

1. You seem convinced the majority of the citizenry aren't satisfied with the government.

2. Source ?

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

When the West says "free", they don't actually mean "freeDOM". They mean "free TRADE."

Damn sis, that's some real shyt. I'm usin' this

This is such a western, eurocentric mode of thinking when it comes to revolutions worldwide. Everything isn't about America and to think that people can't have any agency unless white puppet masters are manipulating them is white, tankie, leftist thinking. nikkas really love jocking authoritarianism under the guise of anti-imperialism. A fukking Global Research article, might as well post Zero Hedge.

Dude, the government itself admitted that they've interfered in at least 85 countries' elections.

Government’s Own Data Shows US Interfered in 81 Foreign Elections

How is it "western & Eurocentric" to think that the most powerful country in the history of the world that has 800 military bases world wide and has been at war constantly for virtually all of it's existence is meddling in a country that is in real danger of subverting it as the world's super power.

What's "western" & "Eurocentric" is the assumption that democracy is what's best for everybody.

How many non-western countries had democratic governments 1,000 years ago?

500 years ago?

100 years ago?

Hell, 50 years ago?

America is proof that democracy fails a lot of the damned time.

breh.... you just compared china's response to people talking shyt about the government....
to the US's response to people planning/enacting terrorist attacks....

you are so brainwashed you don't see the irony in your choice of comparison...

You think the "Patriot Act" was about people planning & enacting terrorist attacks?

Dude that shyt was about controlling the population and always has been

Ten Years After the Patriot Act, a Look at Three of the Most Dangerous Provisions Affecting Ordinary Americans

Section 213 of the PATRIOT Act normalized “sneak-and-peek” warrants. These allow law enforcement to raid a suspect’s house without notifying the recipient of the seizure for months. These orders usually don't authorize the government to actually seize any property — but that won't stop them from poking around your computers. Again, sneak-and-peek warrants could be used for any investigation, even if the crime was only a misdemeanor.

From 2006-2009, sneak-and-peek warrants were used a total of 1,755 times. Only fifteen of those cases—a microscopic 0.8%—involved terrorism. The rest were used in cases involving drugs or fraud.

 

[Savvir]

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You think the "Patriot Act" was about people planning & enacting terrorist attacks?

Dude that shyt was about controlling the population and always has been

Ten Years After the Patriot Act, a Look at Three of the Most Dangerous Provisions Affecting Ordinary Americans

Saying that the Patriot act can and could be used in the future to prevent dissent is not the same as saying china already is using it's power to actively and in instances violently control dissent.

China is a glimpse of where America could be headed. And you guys seem to think there is no problem with where China is at. I'm afraid of how you'll justify the slippery slope America is on.