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shyt is pathetic. Health insurance tied to employment is such a bizarre system.
It’s designed to keep workers in a state of servitude. It’s why, “people like their health insurance,” which is what Biden, Buttigieg, Harris kept telling us in 2020. Its why conservatives from Trump to Murkowski fight any and every proposal to change the system.
 
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It’s designed to keep workers in a state of servitude. It’s why, “people like their health insurance,” which is what Biden, Buttigieg, Harris kept telling us in 2020. Its why conservatives from Trump to Murkowski fight any and every proposal to change the system.

But isn't it in fact true that most Americans poll as liking their private health insurance?

I don't think it's fair to characterize that as talking points from politicians, the polling I've seen suggests that sentiment is actually shared by the general public.
 

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But isn't it in fact true that most Americans poll as liking their private health insurance?

I don't think it's fair to characterize that as talking points from politicians, the polling I've seen suggests that sentiment is actually shared by the general public.
Nobody likes this system but those that benefit from it. One of my former coworkers had a back issue and after about a year the job basically told him he was out and forced a separation. People may like having health insurance in general but when they run up against stuff like that and lose their job and insurance see if they still like it.

Everybody loves something till they end up on the wrong side of it.
 

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Nobody likes this system but those that benefit from it. One of my former coworkers had a back issue and after about a year the job basically told him he was out and forced a separation. People may like having health insurance in general but when they run up against stuff like that and lose their job and insurance see if they still like it.

Everybody loves something till they end up on the wrong side of it.

But isn't it in fact true that most Americans poll as liking their private health insurance?

I don't think it's fair to characterize that as talking points from politicians, the polling I've seen suggests that sentiment is actually shared by the general public.
There is no public momentum for government run healthcare. You can’t go against the will of the people
 

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There is no public momentum for government run healthcare. You can’t go against the will of the people
Because a lot of money is spent combating government run healthcare and spreading misinformation. People hated Obamacare upfront but now love it.
 

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Because a lot of money is spent combating government run healthcare and spreading misinformation. People hated Obamacare upfront but now love it.
That’s always the case but most Americans don’t think government can effectively manage healthcare.

Y’all have to consider that Republicans will take every opportunity to undermine and sabotage a public option. There’s no such thing as universal healthcare without Republican meddling
 

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But isn't it in fact true that most Americans poll as liking their private health insurance?

I don't think it's fair to characterize that as talking points from politicians, the polling I've seen suggests that sentiment is actually shared by the general public.
Of course. Also Most people like their congress person but hate how congress works.

They like their health insurance because they don’t have any other choice Since it’s tied to their jobs. And their jobs aren’t going around searching for the best health insurance to offer their staff, but instead the ones that don’t cost them the most.

And I didn’t characterize it as a talking point for politicians. I said they say this knowing this system is fukked up but have no interest in changing it.
 
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