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I don't even think the problem is that it's "PG" or whatever... because Taker was a top star during probably their MOST "PG" era ever, that being the early-mid-90s (shyt was more child-targeted than any era before or after it, including the Hogan years)... and I know the thing on the internet is to hate the message because of who the messenger is... but the responses to what he said is kinda proving him right. And that, to me, is the softest thing about this newer generation of wrestlers and fans- they're glad to be soft but can't take someone saying it.
Nah..they were doing stuff with Berzerker trying to kill the Undertaker on Superstars. Tried to use that sword to stab him in the heart..Jake using that cobra on Savage in 92. Casket matches. It wasn't Attitude Era but the creativity was more free spirited and memorable than anything from the Cena era.
 

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Nah..they were doing stuff with Berzerker trying to kill the Undertaker on Superstars. Tried to use that sword to stab him in the heart..Jake using that cobra on Savage in 92. Casket matches. It wasn't Attitude Era but the creativity was more free spirited and memorable than anything from the Cena era.

Breh, we thought that shyt was edgy because we were kids... older people were calling WWF the "circus" of wrestling at that time. The only thing I would say was anywhere near adult-themed in that era was the Jake/Savage shyt when Jake slapped Elizabeth. That stuff like Berzerker with the sword, casket matches, Papa Shango doing voodoo on Warrior... nah. If they did anything like that stuff on TV now, we would not be hype about it.

Orton just set Wyatt on fire last month, then Alexa burned his face up two weeks ago, and all the old-ass wrestling fans who've been watchin' this shyt for 30 years shyt all over it. "ThIs iSnT wReSTLiNg!" To a kid, it was probably one of the craziest things theyve ever seen. But that's just how it is... wrestling fans get older and forget they used to be kids.
 
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I don't even think the problem is that it's "PG" or whatever... because Taker was a top star during probably their MOST "PG" era ever, that being the early-mid-90s (shyt was more child-targeted than any era before or after it, including the Hogan years)... and I know the thing on the internet is to hate the message because of who the messenger is... but the responses to what he said is kinda proving him right. And that, to me, is the softest thing about this newer generation of wrestlers and fans- they're glad to be soft but can't take someone saying it.

This right here applies to the WWE, NBA, Hip-Hop, and our society as a whole. :francis:

We raised a generation of snowflakes.:snoop:
 

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I rather these newer wrestlers play video games backstage, have outside endeavors, and be "soft" then to be hooked on drugs/steroids and dying before 50, still having to wrestle while they're in their late 50s-60s because they can't afford to retire, or/and having so many injuries and surgeries that their quality of life is diminished. :yeshrug:
 

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I rather these newer wrestlers play video games backstage, have outside endeavors, and be "soft" then to be hooked on drugs/steroids and dying before 50, still having to wrestle while they're in their late 50s-60s because they can't afford to retire, or/and having so many injuries and surgeries that their quality of life is diminished. :yeshrug:
That's great, but we don't have to wanna watch that bullshyt :heh:
 
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That's great, but we don't have to wanna watch that bullshyt :heh:
The product we're getting has very little to do with people's backstage habits. Yall wanna make this a generational thing so badly like every generation doesn't have real ones and bytches. Idek how this is a generational thing given that the bulk of these guys are around or near 30. Vince isn't giving these guys shyt to do so sit in catering and play video games. The product isn't boring because these guys lack edge, the product is boring because VKM doesn't want edge in his publically traded company
 

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The product we're getting has very little to do with people's backstage habits. Yall wanna make this a generational thing so badly like every generation doesn't have real ones and bytches. Idek how this is a generational thing given that the bulk of these guys are around or near 30. Vince isn't giving these guys shyt to do so sit in catering and play video games. The product isn't boring because these guys lack edge, the product is boring because VKM doesn't want edge in his publically traded company

This. Keep in mind, this is also the same locker room where Woods, Maddox, and Paige were filming each other fukking :laff::laff:
 

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Undertaker breaking kayfabe and deciding to talk more has ruined his whole aura to me. He's one of those people that was better off being seen, not heard. :hhh:

I'm telling you, this older generation hates the fact that the younger generation is smarter about the business. They're not a bunch of ugly white dudes with missing teeth from podunk towns in the south getting into bar fights and using racial slurs indiscriminately. They're actually trying to have a life after wrestling where they can be happy and healthy, with money saved up so they don't have to come back every year and take up space for shytty matches that nobody wants to see.

But they're not "manly men" with nine hip surgeries so they're not doing right by the business. fukk Undertaker. :unimpressed:

the ones who dont hate on the younger generation getting money, are cats who branched off from tine to time to try and do side stuff to open doors for themselves. Taker lost out in a shytload of money devoting himself into staying in character his whole career
 

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The product we're getting has very little to do with people's backstage habits. Yall wanna make this a generational thing so badly like every generation doesn't have real ones and bytches. Idek how this is a generational thing given that the bulk of these guys are around or near 30. Vince isn't giving these guys shyt to do so sit in catering and play video games. The product isn't boring because these guys lack edge, the product is boring because VKM doesn't want edge in his publically traded company

This. Keep in mind, this is also the same locker room where Woods, Maddox, and Paige were filming each other fukking :laff::laff:

Then why is AEW so corny?:unimpressed:

And ROH?:unimpressed:

And Impact isn't even wrestling at this point. It's just a terrible comedy show:heh:

Face it, this generation of dudes are more concerned with doing their videogame flippy shyt that will get them on Meltzer's 5 star list and are just boring people in general. :yeshrug:

I'm not saying that guys have to go back to steroids & heroin, but we aint gotta pretend that these dudes are interesting people when they're not.

The marks are in the ring in this generation and the product shows:francis:
 

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I get nostalgic are there are aspects of back in thr the day I would love to see incorporated more, but I would take now over let's say about 10 years ago. Also a lot of it is on booking and how you could at times use more compelling storytelling, I think because there is a disconnect and some of the older guys don't understand the younger guys its easier for them to put it 100% on the talent, but if some of them debuted now booking wouldn't allow them to become what they did.
 

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Goldberg Doubles Down on Undertaker's Comments About Current WWE Stars Being Soft

The Undertaker made headlines during a recent appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience when he stated that he struggled to enjoy WWE's current product because he found it to be too "soft." The iconic WWE legend said, "It's tough for me because the product has changed so much and it's kind of soft. I'll probably piss a lot of people off but they need to hear it. It is what it is. But to the young guys, 'oh, he's a bitter old guy.' I'm not bitter, I did my time. I'm good, I walked away when I wanted to walk away. I just think the product is a little soft. There's guys here and there that have an edge to them, but there's too much pretty and not enough substance right now."

WWE Hall of Famer Goldberg appeared on this week's edition of After The Bell and was asked about "The Deadman's" comments. Goldberg not only agreed, but extended that same criticism to society in general.

"I think so...yes, I believe comparatively the business is soft," Goldberg said. "But the business is in 2021, so things have to change and things have to be different. Mega superstars that are bigger than life, it's hard in this generation seemingly to build those people."

"...but people are soft. People take offense to things way too quickly. I mean, you know, get a little thicker skin, boys and girls. That's all I can say. When legends came in when I was in the business, in the beginning, I was greatly appreciative of the eyes that they brought to our product. And one day, those young kids are gonna be in a position just like me, and I hope that karma comes back to bite them in the ass. That's all I can say. Because at 54 years old, I don't know one of 'em that can be doing what I'm doing."

He later added — ""There were a lot of badass dudes in that the locker room when I came in...things have changed exponentially, and I can't say it's for the better."
 

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The new generation is hoping they don't have to be wrestling at 54.

I don't think all those guys who are doing suicide dives every five minutes will have to worry about walking at 54, much less wrestling :francis:


Can't have it both ways where on one hand you say its corny how it is now, and then when WWE tries to add some edge [Roman and Braun trying to kill each other on Raw] you point out how ridiculous the storyline is.

Yes, you can:heh:

You can absolutely think that Roman and Braun trying to "kill each other" was corny & terribly booked, just like everything else WWE does:dahell:
 

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The lifestyle is healthier but as a result the characters are boring as hell sorry both can be true these nikkas boring because they are no longer interesting colorful people in and outside the ring.
 
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