UNCP students face racist Lumbee natives at BLM march in Pembroke, NC

[HarlemHottie]

They have meet ups were young people meet other young people and the marriages are virtually all but arranged

A lumbee girl i knew in college was always stressed about the need to breed more full lumbees. Every time she went back home, there was more pressure.

In retrospect, tho, what's a "full" lumbee?

 

[Counter Racist Male]

A lumbee girl i knew in college was always stressed about the need to breed more full lumbees. Every time she went back home, there was more pressure.

In retrospect, tho, what's a "full" lumbee?

Yeah it’s really like that. Like I said earlier post one Lumbee woman that I knew said that they try to hook them up with each other when they’re very young. It’s almost like the lobbies have arranged marriages. A lot of Marrying cousins too.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

A lumbee girl i knew in college was always stressed about the need to breed more full lumbees. Every time she went back home, there was more pressure.

In retrospect, tho, what's a "full" lumbee?

In this context, it's a person who has roots in those clusters of folk (free people of color) who migrated from Virginia to the Carolinas who took on the "Lumbee" identity

 

[HarlemHottie]

In this context, it's a person who has roots in those clusters of folk (free people of color) who migrated from Virginia to the Carolinas who took on the "Lumbee" identity

I know, i was being funny. I looked into tri racial isolates years ago bc, while doing my ancestry, i found that our matriarch was born in a place i came to call 'mulatto hill.' Every house, up and down the street, all mulattos. Weird. Still haven't gotten to the bottom of it.

 

[HTXBreh]

Man I want to fight a lumbee this c00n tribe is problematic.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Langston Hughes had connections to these same groups

Langston Hughes had roots in those same FPC, Virginia-Carolina stocks that became Lumbees and Pamunkeys

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Lewis Sheridan Leary (March 17, 1835 – October 20, 1859), an African-American harnessmaker from Oberlin, Ohio, joined John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry, where he was killed. He was the first husband of Mary Patterson. By her second marriage to Charles Henry Langston, she became the future maternal grandmother of poet Langston Hughes.

Leary's father was a free born African-American harnessmaker. Lewis Leary was born at Fayetteville, North Carolina. His paternal grandparents were an Irishman, Jeremiah O'Leary, who fought in the American Revolution under General Nathanael Greene, and his wife of African, European and Native American descent. His great grandfather, Aaron Revels, also fought in the revolution. Through Revels, he was a cousin to Hiram Rhodes Revels, the first African-American to serve in the United States Senate. His brother was North Carolina politician and lawyer, John S. Leary[1]

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John Mercer Langston (December 14, 1829 – November 15, 1897) was an abolitionist, attorney, educator, activist, diplomat, and politician in the United States. An African American, he became the first dean of the law school at Howard University and helped create the department. He was the first president of what is now Virginia State University, a historically black college.

Born a free black in Virginia to a freedwoman of mixed race and a white planter father, in 1888 Langston was elected to the U.S. Congress as the first representative of color from Virginia. Joseph Hayne Rainey, the black Republican congressman from South Carolina, had been elected in 1870 during the Reconstruction era.

Langston's early career was based in Ohio where, with his older brother Charles Henry Langston, he began his lifelong work for African-American freedom, education, equal rights and suffrage. In 1855 he was one of the first African Americans in the United States elected to public office when elected as a town clerk in Ohio.[1][2][3] John was a great-uncle of the renowned poet Langston Hughes.

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Hiram Rhodes Revels (September 27, 1827[note 1] – January 16, 1901) was a Republican U.S. Senator, minister in the African Methodist Episcopal Church (AME), and a college administrator. Born free in North Carolina, he later lived and worked in Ohio, where he voted before the Civil War. He became the first African American to serve in the U.S. Congress when he was elected to the United States Senate as a Republican to represent Mississippi in 1870 and 1871 during the Reconstruction era.

During the American Civil War, Revels had helped organize two regiments of the United States Colored Troops and served as a chaplain. After serving in the Senate, Revels was appointed as the first president of Alcorn Agricultural and Mechanical College (now Alcorn State University) and served from 1871 to 1873 and 1876 to 1882. Later in his life, he served again as a minister.

Revels is a typical Lumbee surname

Rebekah Revels Miss North Carolina (Lumbee)

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Lumbees be shook from those DNA tests. They saw what happened to the Melungeons

Lumbees focus on both culture and kinship when enrolling members in their tribe. Applicants must have at least one ancestor listed as a member of the “Indian Population” on the 1900 or 1910 Census, and prove that they maintain current ties to the Lumbee tribe. In the tribe’s view, familial ancestry is not the same as racial ancestry. Government officials devised the categories of white, black or Indian, and then decided how much white or black “blood” was acceptable for a person to be called Indian. Lumbees couldn’t always squeeze themselves into those categories, and, as Malinda Maynor Lowery notes, “we’ve suffered mightily for it.”

What many tribes fear — particularly those who oppose Lumbee recognition — is losing their identity. They want their members to be able to trace their ancestry to a single tribe that had a documented, indigenous culture and customs that are still practiced today. Lumbees can’t do that, because they began mixing with other tribes and races very early on. Southern Utah University’s Miller points out that when the Lumbee were “discovered” by colonists in the mid-18th century, they were already farming, wearing European clothing and speaking English. Some leaders of recognized tribes view this as “you guys were always assimilating racially and culturally,” Miller says.

In theory, DNA tests to determine a person’s overall Native American heritage could solve some of these quandaries, but both TallBear and Lowery say such tests are irrelevant to most tribes. When Lumbees contact her, alarmed that biological tests don’t reveal their native DNA, Lowery reminds them that the companies doing the testing don’t have base samples of their ancestors’ DNA. “People are allowed to be African American in this society and not have 100 percent African DNA,” Lowery says. “Are the Lumbee being held to a different standard?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-for-full-recognition/?utm_term=.d36933916750

 

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In this context, it's a person who has roots in those clusters of folk (free people of color) who migrated from Virginia to the Carolinas who took on the "Lumbee" identity

It's not just them though. You have the...

Melungeons
Lumbees
Brass Ankles
Beaver Creek Indians
Red Bones
Maroons
Siouan/Tuscarora/Waccamaws/Saponis/Croatans

All of them are the same group different locations.

also

Judy Jacobs Missions Ministry and Gospel Music Artist

Oh...she sangin sangin

Not bad.

The Cumbos as Lumbee Indian

http://www.cumbofamily.com/?p=262

Oh yeah, I know Andre. We're connected and he's sent me some stuff on my own family.

Looking at the comments, at least some of them are "walking in their truth."

 

[GoAggieGo.]

Langston Hughes had connections to these same groups

Langston Hughes had roots in those same FPC, Virginia-Carolina stocks that became Lumbees and Pamunkeys

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Revels is a typical Lumbee surname

Rebekah Revels Miss North Carolina (Lumbee)

As soon as Rebekah opened her mouth, I could tell she was a Lumbee

They are country as hell, too. I swear, in Lumberton when I hear the women talk, they all sound exactly like that.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

It's not just them though. You have the...

Melungeons
Lumbees
Brass Ankles
Beaver Creek Indians
Red Bones
Maroons
Siouan/Tuscarora/Waccamaws/Saponis/Croatans

All of them are the same group different locations.

facts

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Parading all throughout Pembroke, Lumberton, Laurinburg, and SE NC thinking they’re special and not black, all the while, through some of their actions, they’re not able to hide their blackness.

These some Uncle Ruckus dudes. They’re acting a fool in Pembroke now. Just saw on my Facebook how a truck full of them were headed to Pembroke to chase out those protesting.

Lumbee leader had to address this bad look for his 'people'...even mentions thelighter lumbees put him through growing up

 

[invalid]

Lumbee leader had to address this bad look for his 'people'...even mentions thelighter lumbees put him through growing up

@IllmaticDelta He's a good dude.

But I tell you, for the life of me, I cannot understand how we've allowed a group from the swamps to even entertain that they can be racist or discriminatory against us.

I just will never understand it.

You know the stuff that we post in the powerful black family thread.

We haven't even skimmed the surface.

No other non-white group can compete with our accomplishments, education, and sophistication here on American soil.

Not lumbees, not hispanics, not anyone.

And I have to sit here everyday and hear from all these other posters about how what "new group of the month" doesn't like us, or don't respect us, or think they are better than us.

The fact that posters even acknowledge these other groups is poor and pathetic. The mere acknowledgement of it betrays that they buy into an inferior position.

Sick of it to be honest.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

@IllmaticDelta He's a good dude.

But I tell you, for the life of me, I cannot understand how we've allowed a group from the swamps to even entertain that they can be racist or discriminatory against us.

I just will never understand it.

There are 2 issues going on with the Lumbees:

1. They have some of the sentiments that even some of the "Black" FPOC identified Aframs had against the later, freed slaves. If you look up some of the sh1t LA Creoles said in the old days, it's very similar to what the ancestors to the Lumbees were saying.

2. The lumbees took c00ning to the next level with the Indian claims for a better life; the anti-black sentiments that they still have is because they sold out to white supremacy to get what they got but still haven't reached their end goal

and their endgame still hasn't been realized for racial reasons, which is part of the reason they're heavily anti-black


The Lumbee of eastern North Carolina have long been identified as Native American by their neighbors and by the state. Even the federal government has acknowledged — they are Indian. But the approximately 55,000 Lumbee Indians don’t receive any of the same benefits as members of Native American tribes that have full recognition by the U.S. government.

Rumsey: Those considerations involving race or other concepts – how does that play into making this determination about the status of the Lumbee?



ab: That’s a good question because I think there’s room for debate as to whether or not race should play into the discussion. But in the case of the Lumbee, historically, it definitely has. Their heritage is mixed, and that has been used against them by government officials, and even by other tribes.

Essentially, the history of the Lumbee is that they are descended from a couple of different tribes, including the Cheraw tribe that settled along the Lumber River in the 18th century. Those tribes intermarried with whites and free blacks. So, the modern Lumbee are descended from those original settlers.

The federal government over the years has treated [the Lumbee] differently based on some pretty outdated notions about race, and some Jim Crow-era laws and policies. [The policies] basically said if you were Native American, it was okay to have white ancestry but it was not okay to have black ancestry.

Reporter Explores Lumbee Identity, History As Tribe Fights For Federal Recognition

basically the more anti-black they are, the higher chances to get that federal recognition

You know the stuff that we post in the powerful black family thread.

We haven't even skimmed the surface.

No other non-white group can compete with our accomplishments, education, and sophistication here on American soil.

Not lumbees, not hispanics, not anyone.

And I have to sit here everyday and hear from all these other posters about how what "new group of the month" doesn't like us, or don't respect us, or think they are better than us.

The fact that posters even acknowledge these other groups is poor and pathetic. The mere acknowledgement of it betrays that they buy into an inferior position.

Sick of it to be honest.

fuk those haters

 

[IllmaticDelta]

They have no idea what tribe they descend from mainly because it doesn't exist. So they just started claiming random tribes that historically were in the area

original tribes and the regions they inhabited

 

[Idaeo]

My distant relatives are lumbees from Sampson county NC. I found this book from 1916 my relatives contributed to and are even pictured.

https://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/butler/butler.html

the jist of the book is that they were trying to distance themselves from “the negro race” to gain Indian status and benefits.