Umar Johnson Is A Fraud, Umar snaps "triffilin ass black people"

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Yes I'm 20.....so explain why a brother would not marry a woman who does not believe in a higher power?

Well Adults marry people who have similar beliefs, so why would someone marry someone that does not share similar beliefs especially something as sensitive as spirituality? Why would you spend your life with someone one who does not have the same values as you? How can you raise a child together? Lol are your parents married? I cant believe im even answering a question like this.
 

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I do believe he is credible. Buying a school, running a school and having such ambitious goals is not what makes him seem suspect.

Its when he has melt downs like these that makes you pause. I hope he gets his $$$ to buy his school, even with no track record, but some many others did more with less.
I said from day one dude lacks business acumen, lack of professionalism and business acumen is common amongst people who have not accomplished anything economically, which is the types who tend to blindly ride or die for this man opposed to making their own decisions on what to think on a case by case basis.
 

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I said from day one dude lacks business acumen, lack of professionalism and business acumen is common amongst people who have not accomplished anything economically, which is the types who tend to blindly ride or die for this man opposed to making their own decisions on what to think on a case by case basis.


His emotions run too high. A meltdown would tragic since he is in such high regard.

This video puts him in a bad light, I'll admit this is the 3rd video I've seen of him.

Everyone says he drops jewels, but I'm not his target audience cause way past the fundamentals.
 

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His emotions run too high. A meltdown would tragic since he is in such high regard.

This video puts him in a bad light, I'll admit this is the 3rd video I've seen of him.

Everyone says he drops jewels, but I'm not his target audience cause way past the fundamentals.
Dude is emotional like many black men of today thus that cant lead. IDK if its single mothers rubbing off or what but lot of these males have women tendicies when it comes to getting hurt emotionally and acting out. Hell any grown man talking about leaders is suspect, its our God Given job to be the first line of defense and to lead and protect our families yet we invest faith in another man to do it for us. IMO Umar should be viewed as a peer, so him being a fraud or not should be irrelevant as fakes should simply be cut and the train keeps on moving.
 

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Dude is emotional like many black men of today thus that cant lead. IDK if its single mothers rubbing off or what but lot of these males have women tendicies when it comes to getting hurt emotionally and acting out. Hell any grown man talking about leaders is suspect, its our God Given job to be the first line of defense and to lead and protect our families yet we invest faith in another man to do it for us. IMO Umar should be viewed as a peer, so him being a fraud or not should be irrelevant as fakes should simply be cut and the train keeps on moving.

I don't know much about him, so I can't say much. He is one of the 4 or 5 "big" dudes they pushing now, and his regard is pretty high from what I understand. So these setbacks suck. But he comes off very basic, even in this video he comes off very immature.

But I don't count him out, I am a Pac fan so I understand that a restless mind and a restless heart can be an odd combo which bears good fruit. I just don't understand why he comes off so vain, but I haven't watched enough of his videos.
 

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Well Adults marry people who have similar beliefs, so why would someone marry someone that does not share similar beliefs especially something as sensitive as spirituality? Why would you spend your life with someone one who does not have the same values as you? How can you raise a child together? Lol are your parents married? I cant believe im even answering a question like this.

Yeah......I can't believe you answered my question with that answer. If you go back a few pages and read I stated that I want to marry a man that is agnostic/atheist, because I do not want to butt heads over spirituality/religion. I want to have kids with a man. So why would I marry a man who has different belief's than me?? I'm not interested in changing a man or his beliefs. I believe that you can not teach an adult a lesson, especially when it comes to their belief system so why try? Instead go for people that have similar morals and belief's that you do. Yes, my parents are married. Both are Nigerian and have been married for 20+ years. My mother is religious, and my father is not.
 

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He does have a PhD..., the people saying he doesn't have degrees are suspect to me. I only have issues with how he runs his operation, but I don't believe he is necessarily out to scam people. He needs a business-minded Black man with the same agenda for helping out Black youths around him imo.

His degree:

http://digitalcommons.pcom.edu/psychology_dissertations/233/

Where did he graduate from? I'm still not sold.
 

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Yeah......I can't believe you answered my question with that answer. If you go back a few pages and read I stated that I want to marry a man that is agnostic/atheist, because I do not want to butt heads over spirituality/religion. I want to have kids with a man. So why would I marry a man who has different belief's than me?? I'm not interested in changing a man or his beliefs. I believe that you can not teach an adult a lesson, especially when it comes to their belief system so why try? Instead go for people that have similar morals and belief's that you do. Yes, my parents are married. Both are Nigerian and have been married for 20+ years. My mother is religious, and my father is not.

If you want a man who believes what you believe then why ask the question?
 

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From what I've seen, generally, where you did your dissertation is where you get your PhD from. Check the link. That is the graduate school Dr. Umar Johnson graduated from.
 

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If you want a man who believes what you believe then why ask the question?

They were saying a black man of means would not marry a non religious woman, and a white man would be more likely to do so. I was asking why would a black man be less likely to marry a woman who does not believe in a higher power.
 

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They were saying a black man of means would not marry a non religious woman, and a white man would be more likely to do so. I was asking why would a black man be less likely to marry a woman who does not believe in a higher power.


What are the chances you would even make a connection religious man? From I know chemistry is too big a factor that even thing else is secondary.
 

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What are the chances you would even make a connection religious man? From I know chemistry is too big a factor that even thing else is secondary.

Chemistry is a big factor. I definitely agree with that, but one must also consider whether or not someone is a good match. In the beginning things are always hot and heavy, but when the passion dwindles a little and you have to deal with each other's differences that's another story. Now if you do not want to have kids things could actually work. On the other hand, if you want to have kids it's good to find a person who's morals and views parallels yours.
 
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