Umar Johnson and Tariq Nasheed Beefing Update: Umar never had a psychology license

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The transparency isn’t the problem, the intent is. If you’re all about your community, why wouldn’t you at least offer the opportunity for equity? If i give 10,000, all I can get is a “credit” and a thank you? When people invest in movies, there’s usually a percentage coming back. Some ownership.

Tariq Elite literally goes to the well, takes the water out, puts it in a bottle and then goes back to the owner of the well and sells it back to him.

It’s a good business move, but if you’re intention is for the community, it’s not exactly moralistic. The only thing he’s giving out is knowledge, which is not tangible in itself. Those checks here and there are good, but what long term opportunities is he creating for the people who make him rich? Like I said, there isn’t nothing wrong with the model as a businessman, but when you portray yourself as a community ally, you should want to create equity and long term establishments for your people.

I was saying the same thing around the time of HC2/3.

And Tariq has been asked during stream "Can I invest rather than donate", and the answer has always been no.

The strength of the HC fundraising (and FDMG for that matter) is its grassroots. A bunch of people donating small amounts. For HC Series the largest single donations have been Two 3k, and about Four 5k.

On one hand im like...How much equity can you really give out? But I agree im not donating a huge amount to create a product and i dont see some type of return.
 

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I was saying the same thing around the time of HC2/3.

And Tariq has been asked during stream "Can I invest rather than donate", and the answer has always been no.

The strength of the HC fundraising (and FDMG for that matter) is its grassroots. A bunch of people donating small amounts. For HC Series the largest single donations have been Two 3k, and about Four 5k.

On one hand im like...How much equity can you really give out? But I agree im not donating a huge amount to create a product and i dont see some type of return.
I agree it’s not a huge amount to give out, but that’s because he makes it that way. Just say he allowed investors and raised up a few million, made it real quality and take it on the film festival circuit. Then there’s a bidding war. Then there’s more millions offered. Then you release it and make more. Next thing you know, brothers could have enough for a small studio. Give out true long term opportunities in film and media.

Even if there isn’t a bidding war, the wider release with more backing guarantees bigger returns.

Look at Swirl Films, they produce damn near every black tv show and movie and they’re owned by white people. You mean to tell me he couldn’t have done the same model? He has the cache to do it. He could’ve easily done it if he wanted to split the pie, but he doesn’t.
 

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These are your leaders?

My brothers in america are lost in the dunya
the problem is , the church as trained most black people to look at leadership like a congregation looks at a preacher. this then places leaders in the jesus template which is irrational and illogical. that form of leadership has literally never worked.

leadership, true leadership is acknowledging people for what they are gifted at and taking advantage from that field. a lawyer is the leadership in law, you mechanic is the leadership in getting your car fixed. no person is the savior, no person is the fix it all carry us to the promise land moses crap.

umar is good at teaching, take the teachings and move on. tariq is great at creating professional productions to tell our story, take that and move on. people in leadership positions always clash, on all sides, we just watched an entire alt right, white liberal civil war take place in charlottesville (or however you spell it) hell the very Constitution we live under now was created with years of conflict among the writers of it, and hell jefferson dissed much of the original language of it.

so this conflict doesnt bother me to the least, because i take the good from people and dont make them my savior. umar lectures on a subject interesting to me, i will listen, tariq puts out another documentary, i will take my family to see it as i have done to all his films that come to chicago.

if people are disappointed, its their own fault for making people modern day jesus and moses. those are fictional characters, and this is real life.
 

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Do you know how people in Hollywood make other people rich? They give them opportunities to invest in a film and then eat on the back end. The more you invest, the better quality your film and the better opportunity to make more money. Then everyone gets a percentage and you rinse and repeat. The fact you think giving out equity in a film is laughable shows you’re business mind isn’t where it needs to be.

You’d rather donate to somebody and be happy with him giving your twitter treats about white supremacists and laughs every week.
I never donated anything but thanks for assuming.

You helped make my point though, that’s the way the Hollywood system works and my business mind is definitely in the right place.

It’s a major system with all types of negotiations and contracts. Along with groups such as the DGA, PGA and others.

Not to mention the requirements for certain films to be up for equity financing.

Is the film an inherent mitigated risk?

Does it have any qualifying assets?

A minimum guarantee on potential profit margin?

If dude was backed by a major studio then I could see your point.

Like I said, I don’t even really check for tariq like that but I wouldn’t use the film point as a knock against him.

There are other aspects of him I don’t particularly care for though.
 

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Why did Umar think Tariq spoke on him first, when Tariq was clearly saying he wasn't in it?

...Umar makes a threat to keep his name out of Tariq's mouth, Tariq pulls his card and says pull up.... yet Umar is asking when and where... when Tariq clearly said PULL UP...

This shyt is so stupid
 

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I never donated anything but thanks for assuming.

You helped make my point though, that’s the way the Hollywood system works and my business mind is definitely in the right place.

It’s a major system with all types of negotiations and contracts. Along with groups such as the DGA, PGA and others.

Not to mention the requirements for certain films to be up for equity financing.

Is the film an inherent mitigated risk?

Does it have any qualifying assets?

A minimum guarantee on potential profit margin?

If dude was backed by a major studio then I could see your point.

Like I said, I don’t even really check for tariq like that but I wouldn’t use the film point as a knock against him.

There are other aspects of him I don’t particularly care for though.
So you’re saying we aren’t sophisticated enough to hit all of those qualifiers and produce a major documentary? We should just keep nickel and diming? I don’t see your point.
 

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Maybe im missing everything pertaining to this all though more important shyt to be focus on but Emotionally responding some girl shyt, bytch shyt and they moving like some women writing 140 characters. Men don't move like that. And even if you a so-called former crip --- which I find hard to believe --- don't respond like that. Probably was involved but not thorough as he pretending to be.

Like someone said the oppressor sitting back with a grin.

Now I'm off my Farrakhan shyt back to the booth.
 
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