Umar Johnson and Tariq Nasheed Beefing Update: Umar never had a psychology license

[I Really Mean It]

Nikkas been doing shyt without a licence for years.

Now suddenly, Umar needs a licence.

Now I KNOW CACs don't respect us. Collectively, we don't deserve it.

If a white man didn't certify you, you're not legit. That's basically what Tariq is saying. Low key c00n shyt.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Who telling on the beauticians and barbers operating without a licence?

Nobody cause nobody getting their hair cut by some nikka who don’t even have a shop chair

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

What does this have to do with what he wrote? Go to timeout

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Who telling on the beauticians and barbers operating without a licence?

You really think that’s a logical comparison?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Nikkas breaking their neck to save ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, who will eventually take your place.. But Umar gets the third degree?

"But what about"

You nikkas are so slow and transparent. If you give a fukk about that shyt go make a thread about it

 

[Marlostanfield.]

I'm sorry breh what you're saying makes absolutely no sense..

How the hell can you be a doctor but not a licensed one to open a business?

I have a pharm D. Im working with other local black pharmacists to start up a compounding clinic for low income families.

I can do that because of my national license and the T.S.B.P. In order to start any practice, rather it's pharmacy, rehab, psychology, you have to be licensed because you open yourself up for lawsuits if you're not.

The credentials matter so to speak because it means it's probable that he was fraudulent off the rip. Umar is may have all kinds of lawsuits pending.

Breh

I would NEVER trust a "family member" with potentially millions of dollars and the responsibility of running a school if they weren't qualified. It has nothing to do with anything else (from me personally...and I've outlined it several times consistently on this site).

That's the issue.

I'm not giving someone the "homie hookup" when it comes to the grandiose plans that he says he has. As time goes on, typically plans get STRONGER. His plan has unraveled as time goes on. He has no plan, he has no structure. He is not qualified to do the things with the school that he says he is, and he continuously tries to

himself through any criticism.



I have nothing BAD to say about an accomplished pro black brother. I a lot of his talking points. But he is not qualified to run a school the magnitude that he wants.



YET,

People look for every reason to validate the invalid. People cling for hope... "well technically he IS a Dr."... It's really sad. Dr. Umar is proving himself to be like Spam. Yes Spam is edible, but I don't want to eat that shyt.

So if I graduate with a doctorate in education that means I'm not doctor of education or is it until I'm licensed first ? Y'all falling for how the system monetize stuff. Cause you can become a licensed teacher and not know what you doing, it happens all the time and a lot of them are paying off student loans if they teach for 4 years there student loan is wiped away.

Ima tell y'all why you're doing this to Dr umar and ima use quotes from Baby bell who was describing the state of white man psychology to iceberg slim he didn't know he was talking about black as well.

"You know why white man gotta come to em (black woman), the silly sick b*stard is like a whore who loves and needs punishment"

"The poor freak joy is in his suffering"

"The sad thing is he doesn't even know he's sick in the skull"

People like tariq because he asks nothing of you, but umar asks of black people to do better by trying to open the school but black people love their suffering and now you have a choice to send your kid to white man or black man, now you can't say whitey this or that, now you're forced to look in the mirror and suffering people don't want to do that, they love their suffering so you sabotage anything that can help you.

You know how black people love suffering because it ain't much money in trying to really help black people and you refuse to get out of the hole. If someone puts you in a hole and you stay that tells me you like it because you're not doing anything to get out of the hole.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

The nikka that has action figures, calls himself ‘POPA’, thinks he made HC poppin BY HIMSELF, and refers to himself in the third person like The Rock is calling someone else a narcissist

Unless some new info comes out I’m done with this thread. We beating a dead horse now.

That Pharaoh nikka called Umar The prince of Scam Africanism

 

[A Cop]

 

[TL15]

So if I graduate with a doctorate in education that means I'm not doctor of education or is it until I'm licensed first ? Y'all falling for how the system monetize stuff. Cause you can become a licensed teacher and not know what you doing, it happens all the time and a lot of them are paying off student loans if they teach for 4 years there student loan is wiped away.

Ima tell y'all why you're doing this to Dr umar and ima use quotes from Baby bell who was describing the state of white man psychology to iceberg slim he didn't know he was talking about black as well.

"You know why white man gotta come to em (black woman), the silly sick b*stard is like a whore who loves and needs punishment"

"The poor freak joy is in his suffering"

"The sad thing is he doesn't even know he's sick in the skull"

People like tariq because he asks nothing of you, but umar asks of black people to do better by trying to open the school but black people love their suffering and now you have a choice to send your kid to white man or black man, now you can't say whitey this or that, now you're forced to look in the mirror and suffering people don't want to do that, they love their suffering so you sabotage anything that can help you.

You know how black people love suffering because it ain't much money in trying to really help black people and you refuse to get out of the hole. If someone puts you in a hole and you stay that tells me you like it because you're not doing anything to get out of the hole.

You never address anything directly.

You are bringing up allegories about "black people love suffering" (when to me, suffering is throwing my money at a conman )

I've written this before so I'll just quote myself

Pay attention to #3

Well (and this is my opinion only...and it's not based in "hate rhetoric" for the man...It's only from what I've seen)

#1 he handles criticism poorly - If you are going to be an educator and claim to want to change the minds of these young impressionable black boys and girls, you need to be able to stand up to criticism. The first mention of criticism he resorts to name calling (calling people BROKE for not donating to his school without a plan, calling them "c00ns" for disagreeing with him or bringing up his questionable behavior with strippers etc.)

#2 he is incredibly self centered/arrogant - He calls him self "The Prince" , has made up a very "loose" ancestry association with Frederick Douglass (the true ancestors of Frederick Douglass have denied he has any blood tie to them). He has a "toy/action figure" of himself You can't be a positive educator (IMO) if you are more into yourself and your image than you are education. Education is dirty...not in a literal sense. Good educators give up their sense of self to help others, they don't care about "reputation", they care about helping others. His arrogance seems to lean toward protecting his image. In a case where he has to choose between these children he wants to educate and "saving face" his behavior indicates he would probably choose saving face.

#3 No executive board - Any school (especially specialized charter schools) should have an executive board of qualified educators. Any person who thinks they can undertake this type of venture (and should be blindly trust with millions of dollars) should probably have a team of Doctors and Educators at the ready. Even this "early" in the process, this is NOT a one man undertaking. If I wanted to start a school, I would start by getting educators on my side, on the board, etc. so that my plan was legitimate. Even if I believe his education (which is murky at best, fraudulent at worst), his specific education doesn't qualify him to run ALL things in a school. He would need an accountant/financial planner to handle the finances, a curriculum designer, someone to run the housing aspect, someone to run the nutrition aspect, someone to monitor state regulations in regards to educational requirements by grade, someone to monitor the facilities and making sure everything is up to code... etc. etc. The fact that he has no executive board is telling.

#4 His website... Dr. Umar Johnson, The Prince of Pan-Africanism Just visit this. It doesn't scream professional. I know not everyone is a web designer, but in 2017 you can have a much more professional website for less than $1000. This website looks like it was made by a high school senior in 2002. It's REALLY bad. I wouldn't trust that the man who has his name tied to this website in 2017 and still keeps it running would be capable of hiring the right people to run a boarding school/ academy where kids live.

#5 He is too secretive. This is the most damning one to me. If I was planning to fund a school, everything would be in the open to those who NEEDED to see it. The whole "it's none of your business" trope is a really bad statement when you want to run a school. Education is about transparency. Honestly (in the scheme of what he wants to do) he could get 3-5 million from Oprah or someone else IF he had the right plan, the right committee, the right background. The issue is that he keeps everything hidden, he isn't direct, and that comes off (not saying it is) as shady. I have my MBA. It's a fact 100%. If someone asked me to see it I wouldn't make them jump through hurdles. I wouldn't dodge the questions and try to turn things back around on them. I'm proud of the achievement, I would show them. For him, whenever the question has been brought up, he hesitates to show irrefutable proof. I wouldn't want that person running a school where I would send my child.

Again, NONE of that was me saying "oh he's a clown" without some type of tangible proof from what I have seen from him on multiple interviews. He is incredibly intelligent and a good speaker when he gets to control the narrative. He resorts to childlike behavior when he is pressed. I don't think he is a terrible man OR a criminal. But not every "decent man who is not a criminal" deserves millions of dollars to run a school.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Damn! Don’t fukk with Tariq lol

 

[UpAndComing]

....quit reading.

Cats can spin it anyway they wanna spin it. These findings still don't negate...Umar's beliefs or intelligence... So the man isn't licensed...okay? There's all types of cacs out here in prestigious positions skirtin the system...yet again...we have an agenda from many people (including our own) to smear this nggas message and vision.... Why aint nggas sifting thru the depths of hell for some of these other nefarious cacs credentials out here?. I don't give a damn about no license....when the man has obviously gone out of his way to educate himself and become a scholar. The amount of schooling in itself is commendable. So the ngga cut a corner or two... who am I to judge? There's licensed nggas throughout every industry that still ain't shyt... so fukk does that piece a paper really mean to me? Some of y'all nggas sound like c00ns and hoes. Same type a hoes complaining to a ngga about a marriage certificate (a piece a paper)...which is part of a ploy to get more money out you somehow within this system called WS... Umar already told y'all he ain't tryin to build or play by the same rules the rest of you c00ns play by... but y'all don't hear me tho.

Exactly. Not the biggest Umar fan, but it seems like Tariq going out of his way to bring down another black man. But the same CACs with a PhD he ain't going this hard against

 

[Marlostanfield.]

You never address anything directly.

You are bringing up allegories about "black people love suffering" (when to me, suffering is throwing my money at a conman )

I've written this before so I'll just quote myself

Pay attention to #3

I'm answering your questions just not the answers you want and most of that is you stating opinions.

Its not about the school because black people send their kids to be miseducated by white people and y'all not in a big uproar but want to sabotage umar. Same thing slaves did on plantation when one slave tried to do something and other slaves would sabotage him. Black people comfortable being told what to do and how to do.

 

[DrunkenNovice]

said this back in 2015:

I gotta admit you and @Poitier had Umar pegged from the start.

I went back and read the old thread from when the school was first announced and saw this

This is the oldest juug in the book. I don't have a problem with the idea, in so much as Mr. Umar Johnson has flimsy credentials to head and put faith in his execution of this idea.

I watched it. He is a doctor he's just not a licensed one. He has a PhD in psychology, a doctorate degree so.

He can say he's a psychologist but he's not licensed to start a business that doesn't take away from his doctorate degree.

This is false, and the source of a lot of confusion.

He has a doctorate so he can say He's a doctor of psychology. He's a certified school psychologist. So when speaking in the education environment he can refer to himself as a psychologist (it's assumed people will know he doesn't mean clinical)

He cannot refer to himself in general to the public as a therapist, a psychologist, or say he provides therapy, or provide diagnosis because it infers he is licensed to do clinical work. He's not which is why it's gotten to this level.

 

[Real N Quotes]

Maybe that reason he went so hard all these years

 

[Vilify]

This is nitpicking if I ever seen it. Umar doesn't need a license to be a public speaker nor does he need a license to effect positive change amongst black men.