Ukraine just invaded Russia. Currently occupying a Russian city

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I’m wondering what’s UKR objectives and will they able to hold.

As weak as Russia is, they have meat waves to throw at Ukrainians

There’s definitely going to be losses on ukr side but hopefully not many and they will able to achieve their objectives
 
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Polish-supplied KTO Rosomak APC in Ukrainian service, with Ukrainian GUR SOF operators on top, operating in Russia's Kursk Oblast.

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This Rosomak sports the Hitfist-30P turret.



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Is police


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THREAD Putin has removed Army's Gerasimov from command over Kursk operation, installed FSB's Portnikov. This is great. Let me explain:
1) Russian system of power always set on the secret police over the Army. The Secret Police was over-financed over-empowered for centuries /1

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1.1) In 16th century, Moscovy's tyrant Ivan the Terrible has created Moscovy's first Secret Police: "Oprichnina" (literally: the special ones), letting them arrest, torture, kill, rape any opposition, and seize their property. Ivan's opponents were destroyed. But in 1570... /2

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1.2) ...Ivan the Terrible sent the Oprichnikis against free people of Revel (Tallinn), in a war of conquest. The Oprichnikis were beaten. In 1571, the Oprichnikis were called to fight back Tatar Devlet-Girei khan. They have not even come to the battle (see Kadyrovtsy today) /3

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2) Still, Moscow continued providing any secret police with privilege. Moscow Tsars feared local opposition more than a foreign threat, so a well-funded secret police was of a higher value, while army wasn't trusted. In 1803, Emperor Nikolai I founded a "secret police regiment"/4

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2.1) Which was practically a top-armed army-style unit of the "His Emperor Majesties Own Chancellory's 3rd dept.", or a Russian Gestapo. Of course, this regiment, lavishly funded, has never recorded any significant victory besides oppressing uprisings. It existed until 1861 /5

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3) Under Stalin, "The NKVD troops" were created (what was an oxymoron, as NKVD stays for "People's commissariat for internal affairs"), best armed, with personal loyalty to Stalin. Their best operations? Scorching Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Latvian, and Estonian towns after WWII. /6

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4) This played bad for the NKVD. After Stalin's death in 1953, Khrushchev organised a coup against NKVD-top Beria, and the Army, humiliated often enough by the NKVD, gladly took over Moscow and executed Beria. Watch "Death of Stalin" comedy (which is not a comedy) for this /7

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5) In early 2000s, it was FSB (Russia's modern secret police) which provided Putin with final pacification of Chechnya, what looks like an FSB's victory. But before the FSB was able to kidnap, torture, rape, execute Chechens, it was the Army which burnt Chechnya down. /8

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6) So now the FSB takes the task of repelling a foreign invasion, because the Army is not good enough for this (which is true). But what can the FSB do? They can only pacificate (with a lot of terror) already occupied territories. Good luck with that with your black SS uniforms.

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And: The FSB will probably get Ukrainian uniforms and demonstratively execute local Russians, to create "evidence of Ukraine's brutality". This is what NKVD/MGB/KGB did in the West of Ukraine to undercut support for the Resistance, and later FSB did in Ichkeria. That's why FSB.


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Zelenskyy: "It Is Now Clear What the End Is for [Putin]. It's Kursk. The Catastrophe of His War"​

Aug 12, 2024 20:19
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Zelenskyy: It Is Now Clear What the End Is for [Putin]. It's Kursk. The Catastrophe of His War
President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy. (Source: Getty Images)

In his evening address, on August 12, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy reflected on the trajectory of Russia under Putin's leadership, drawing a comparison between the Kursk submarine disaster 24 years ago, which marked the symbolic beginning of Putin's rule, and the current situation in the Kursk region amidst the ongoing war.

Zelenskyy suggested that just as the Kursk disaster was a significant moment at the start of Putin's era, the current circumstances signal the end of his rule and the fate of Kursk as well.

“We see where Russia is actually going under Putin: 24 years ago there was the Kursk disaster - the symbolic beginning of his rule; and now it is clear what is the end for him. It’s also Kursk. The disaster of his war,” he said.

He emphasized that this outcome is inevitable for those who disregard people and rules. He pointed out that Russia, which brought war to other nations, is now facing the consequences at home. Ukraine, he reiterated, has always sought peace, and it will ultimately secure peace.

“This is always the case with those who despise people and any rules. Russia brought war to others, now it's coming home. Ukraine has always wanted only peace, and we will definitely ensure peace,“ Zelenskyy added.

He concluded by expressing gratitude to everyone who contributes to Ukraine's efforts and saluted those who fight and work for the country, ending with a resounding "Glory to Ukraine!"
 

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Putin orders army to "dislodge" Ukrainian troops from Russian territory as over 120,000 flee border area​


August 12, 2024 / 11:00 AM EDT / CBS/AFP

President Vladimir Putin ordered his army on Monday to "dislodge" Ukrainian troops who have entered Russian territory as authorities said more than 120,000 people had been evacuated away from the fighting.

Kyiv launched a surprise offensive into Russia's western Kursk region last Tuesday, capturing more than two dozen settlements in the most significant cross-border attack on Russian soil since World War II.

"One of the obvious goals of the enemy is to sow discord, strife, intimidate people, destroy the unity and cohesion of Russian society," Putin told a televised meeting with government officials.

"The main task is, of course, for the defense ministry to dislodge the enemy from our territories," he said.

Some 121,000 people have fled the Kursk region since the start of the fighting, which has killed at least 12 civilians and injured 121 more, regional governor Alexei Smirnov told the meeting with Putin.

Authorities in Kursk announced on Monday they were widening their evacuation area to include the Belovsky district, home to some 14,000 residents. The neighboring Belgorod region also said it was evacuating its border district of Krasnoyaruzhsky.

"Apparently, the enemy is striving to improve its negotiating positions in the future," Putin said Monday. "But what kind of negotiations can we even talk about with people who indiscriminately strike at civilians, at civilian infrastructure?"

Russia launched a "full-scale invasion" of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, and since then, Russia has attacked numerous Ukrainian population centers. Russian strikes have hit Ukrainian hospitals, theaters, train stations and shopping malls.

Since last week, Ukraine has pierced into Russia by at least seven miles and captured 28 towns and villages, with the new front 25 miles long, Smirnov said.

A top Ukrainian official told AFP over the weekend that the operation was aimed at stretching Russian troops and destabilizing the country after months of slow Russian advances across the frontline.

Putin said Russia would respond by showing "unanimous support for all those in distress" and claimed there had been an increase in men signing up to fight.

"The enemy will receive a worthy riposte," he said.

The assault appeared to catch the Kremlin off guard. Russia's army rushed in reserve troops, tanks, aviation, artillery and drones in a bid to quash it, but it conceded on Sunday that Ukraine had penetrated up to 20 miles into Russian territory in places.

On Saturday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy acknowledged for the first time that his country's military forces were fighting in the operation.

In his night video address, Zelenskyy said he discussed the ongoing incursion "to push the war onto the aggressor's territory" with top Ukrainian commander Oleksandr Syrskyi.

"Ukraine is proving that it can indeed restore justice and ensure the necessary pressure on the aggressor," he said.

A Ukrainian security official told AFP, on condition of anonymity, that "the aim is to stretch the positions of the enemy, to inflict maximum losses and to destabilize the situation in Russia as they are unable to protect their own border."

The Ukrainian official said thousands of Ukrainian troops were involved in the operation.

Russia's defense ministry said on Monday that its air defense systems had destroyed 18 Ukrainian drones - including 11 over the Kursk region.

Russia's emergency situations ministry said on Sunday that over 44,000 residents in the Kursk region have applied for financial assistance, TASS news agency reported.

Meanwhile, Russia's rail operator has organized emergency trains from Kursk to Moscow, around 280 miles away, for those fleeing.

"It's scary to have helicopters flying over your head all the time," said Marina, refusing to give her surname, who arrived by train in Moscow on Sunday. "When it was possible to leave, I left."

Across the border in Ukraine's Sumy region, AFP journalists on Sunday saw dozens of armored vehicles daubed with a white triangle -- the insignia apparently being used to identify Ukrainian military hardware deployed in the attack.

At an evacuation center in the regional capital of Sumy, 70-year-old retired metal worker Mykola, who fled his village of Khotyn some 10 kilometers from the Russian border, welcomed Ukraine's push into Russia.

"Let's let them find out what it's like," he told AFP. "They don't understand what war is. Let them have a taste of it."

Analysts think Kyiv may have launched the assault to relieve pressure on its troops in other parts of the frontline.

But the Ukrainian official said: "Their pressure in the east continues, they are not pulling back troops from the area," even if "the intensity of Russian attacks has gone down a little bit."

The Ukrainian official said he expected Russia would "in the end" stop the incursion.

Ukraine was bracing for a large-scale retaliatory missile attack, including "on decision-making centers" in Ukraine, the official said.
 

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Explain this to me like I'm 5.

How is he not under pressure? It would be like a Mexican cartel taking over several towns in Texas. The average citizen here, let alone abroad, would be looking at us and our military like we're f*cking crazy.

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because losing a bit of land here and there doesn't matter to a dictator and the only sense I can make of why the Uke's are there is because they want to position themselves for negotiations.

I guess they're pretty sure Trump's gonna win and they'll eventually will have to sue for peace.

For the 3 year old explanation if the Cartels occupied Deming New Mexico other than making america look bad it wouldn't matter as almost no people live in that par of New Mexico so other than a loss of face it means nothing and if you weren't worried about losing an election the juice of losing Deming is not worth the squezze of getting it back.

shyt looks bad to have the Uke's running wild in your territory but it's not a threat to Moscow and Putin is still making slow but steady progress in the south and even near Kharkiv better to keep the focus on that than to pull out to try to defend Kursk

Then there's always the Nuclear card

This whole war seems like an excuse to kill a couple million white dudes because It seems like bothsides know what the true Red Line is.
 

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Zelenskyy: "It Is Now Clear What the End Is for [Putin]. It's Kursk. The Catastrophe of His War"​

Aug 12, 2024 20:19
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Zelenskyy: It Is Now Clear What the End Is for [Putin]. It's Kursk. The Catastrophe of His War's Kursk. The Catastrophe of His War President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy. (Source: Getty Images)

In his evening address, on August 12, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy reflected on the trajectory of Russia under Putin's leadership, drawing a comparison between the Kursk submarine disaster 24 years ago, which marked the symbolic beginning of Putin's rule, and the current situation in the Kursk region amidst the ongoing war.

Zelenskyy suggested that just as the Kursk disaster was a significant moment at the start of Putin's era, the current circumstances signal the end of his rule and the fate of Kursk as well.

“We see where Russia is actually going under Putin: 24 years ago there was the Kursk disaster - the symbolic beginning of his rule; and now it is clear what is the end for him. It’s also Kursk. The disaster of his war,” he said.

He emphasized that this outcome is inevitable for those who disregard people and rules. He pointed out that Russia, which brought war to other nations, is now facing the consequences at home. Ukraine, he reiterated, has always sought peace, and it will ultimately secure peace.

“This is always the case with those who despise people and any rules. Russia brought war to others, now it's coming home. Ukraine has always wanted only peace, and we will definitely ensure peace,“ Zelenskyy added.

He concluded by expressing gratitude to everyone who contributes to Ukraine's efforts and saluted those who fight and work for the country, ending with a resounding "Glory to Ukraine!"
again this has to be planned out because either Russia pulls it's troops at least in the north to fight the Uke's in Kursk * and lose all momentum in Ukraine or go Unconventional and kill several Russian civilians or assume that they'll stay in kursk and advance no further no matter if could kick the asses of the militas in Russia or not

I guess they aslo don't believe that Russia will do a mass call up to fight for the motherland either

Again it just seems like this is a war where everyone knows the other side's moves.
 

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A Ukrainian military unit driving through the centre of
Sudzha, Kursk Oblast.

Note how the town remains almost undamaged, unlike the majority of Ukrainian towns "liberated" by Russian forces, which are invariably reduced to rubble.


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The difference is the Uke's fought these guys surrendered and ran.
 

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The Russians always looted. Actually to effectively loot it has to be organized the guys putting the loot on trucks have to know that they will get their cut at the end of the day

Yea but these dudes looting the houses of the people they supposed to protect

Imagine some Ruscreh got drafted out of Kursk, chilling at the barracks

One of his boys gets back to the barracks with a suitcase full of silverware he looted like :mjlit:

And Ruscrehs like... thats from my house breh
 
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