Ukraine just invaded Russia. Currently occupying a Russian city
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Remember, this is what Russian winning looks like
comments said it was uploaded in 2022 but still
1/1
Video of a Ukrainian ATGM strike on Russian/Wagner fighters in the Bakhmut direction.
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Video of a Ukrainian ATGM strike on Russian/Wagner fighters in the Bakhmut direction.
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1/11
Ukrainian presence in Makhnovka, Kursk Oblast
51.1709032745, 35.295794112
@UAControlMap @GeoConfirmed
2/11
this better be 2-3 days old
3/11
Cool!
fires on my bio.
4/11
5/11
@emilkastehelmi
6/11
And yesterday they said it was fake. Meanwhile Russians still magically hold eastern part of Suzdha
7/11
And he seems to be walking leisurely meaning the front is further away.
8/11
...but Rybar said no one crossed river
9/11
(For @GeoConfirmed)
10/11
@NOELreports
11/11
Acc 2 rus mod in Acc 2 Rus MOD they r at leat in Cherkasskoe Porechnoe, Oblast Koersk, Rusland, 307832 where it said to have destroyed an Ukrainian tank with a lancet
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Ukrainian presence in Makhnovka, Kursk Oblast
51.1709032745, 35.295794112
@UAControlMap @GeoConfirmed
2/11
this better be 2-3 days old
3/11
Cool!
fires on my bio.4/11
5/11
@emilkastehelmi
6/11
And yesterday they said it was fake. Meanwhile Russians still magically hold eastern part of Suzdha
7/11
And he seems to be walking leisurely meaning the front is further away.
8/11
...but Rybar said no one crossed river
9/11
(For @GeoConfirmed)
10/11
@NOELreports
11/11
Acc 2 rus mod in Acc 2 Rus MOD they r at leat in Cherkasskoe Porechnoe, Oblast Koersk, Rusland, 307832 where it said to have destroyed an Ukrainian tank with a lancet
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1/1
Ukraine's Kursk offensive underscores the drastic erosion of Russia's soft power in the post-Soviet space
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Ukraine's Kursk offensive underscores the drastic erosion of Russia's soft power in the post-Soviet space
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1/10
1/ A Russian soldier captured by Ukraine recorded himself looting an abandoned house in the Kursk region. The video was reportedly retrieved from his mobile phone. It potentially corroborates reports of widespread looting from their own civilians by the Russian military.
2/10
2/ In the video, the man shows himself wandering around the house's ransacked interior. The building appears to have been damaged, probably by shelling. He complains that "the Ministry of Defence" (i.e. the Army) have been there before him and have stripped the house.
3/10
3/ At least three of his colleagues are visible in and around the building's garage. Describing it as "rich" (in loot, presumably), he says they are "cleaning it [out]".
4/10
4/ It's not clear which force the man is from, but his reference to "the Ministry of Defence" suggests that he's not Army. It's most likely that he's a member of the Rosgvardiya (Russian National Guard) which answers directly to Putin.
5/10
5/ The video helps to corroborate a report today that "rampant looting" by Russian forces has broken out in frontline regions in the path of the Ukrainian advance. It appears that the Russians are having serious problems with military indiscipline.
6/10
6/ The video suggests that both the Army and, possibly, the Rosgvardia are engaged in wanton looting. This is likely to have a number of seriously negative effects on Russia's response to the Ukrainian offensive:
7/10
7/
Time spent looting is time lost to defend territory.
Carrying loot uses up and slows down logistical capacity. (This was a major problem for Russia at the start of the full-scale invasion, when soldiers commandeered much-needed trucks to carry loot back into Russia.)
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8/ Soldiers who are looting aren't likely to go straight to the front line – they'll try to get it to safety (and perhaps the nearest functioning post office) to get it home. Again, this reduces defensive capacity.
The looted civilians won't be happy, to say the least.
9/10
9/ The video suggests that there's been a major breakdown in Russian command and control along the frontlines – they would probably not be looting if they had an officer with them. The men in the video were most likely wandering around without any orders. /end
10/10
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1/ A Russian soldier captured by Ukraine recorded himself looting an abandoned house in the Kursk region. The video was reportedly retrieved from his mobile phone. It potentially corroborates reports of widespread looting from their own civilians by the Russian military.
2/10
2/ In the video, the man shows himself wandering around the house's ransacked interior. The building appears to have been damaged, probably by shelling. He complains that "the Ministry of Defence" (i.e. the Army) have been there before him and have stripped the house.
3/10
3/ At least three of his colleagues are visible in and around the building's garage. Describing it as "rich" (in loot, presumably), he says they are "cleaning it [out]".
4/10
4/ It's not clear which force the man is from, but his reference to "the Ministry of Defence" suggests that he's not Army. It's most likely that he's a member of the Rosgvardiya (Russian National Guard) which answers directly to Putin.
5/10
5/ The video helps to corroborate a report today that "rampant looting" by Russian forces has broken out in frontline regions in the path of the Ukrainian advance. It appears that the Russians are having serious problems with military indiscipline.
6/10
6/ The video suggests that both the Army and, possibly, the Rosgvardia are engaged in wanton looting. This is likely to have a number of seriously negative effects on Russia's response to the Ukrainian offensive:
7/10
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Time spent looting is time lost to defend territory. Carrying loot uses up and slows down logistical capacity. (This was a major problem for Russia at the start of the full-scale invasion, when soldiers commandeered much-needed trucks to carry loot back into Russia.)8/10
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Soldiers who are looting aren't likely to go straight to the front line – they'll try to get it to safety (and perhaps the nearest functioning post office) to get it home. Again, this reduces defensive capacity. The looted civilians won't be happy, to say the least.9/10
9/ The video suggests that there's been a major breakdown in Russian command and control along the frontlines – they would probably not be looting if they had an officer with them. The men in the video were most likely wandering around without any orders. /end
10/10
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1/11
1/ As Ukrainian forces advance in the Kursk region, law and order in frontline Russian-held areas is reported to have collapsed completely. "Rampant looting" is said have broken out – being done by the Russians themselves – while local residents say they feel abandoned.
2/11
2/ The VChK-OGPU Telegram channel reports that "in the border areas of the Kursk region, where fighting has been going on all week, there are no police, no firefighters, no doctors, no representatives of the administration.
3/11
3/ "According to official information, more than 76,000 people left the settlements (most of them left on their own, since there was no organized evacuation, despite the statements of the authorities), but there are still people there, mostly elderly."
4/11
4/ The channel says that "the desertion of villages and towns has become a catalyst for rampant looting". The disorder is being carried out by the Russians themselves, though it isn't clear if opportunistic civilians or indisciplined soldiers are responsible.
5/11
5/ A local resident says: "They are robbing stores, there is a collapse in Korenevo, the “Magnit” [supermarket, pictured below] was simply destroyed. There is no water, no gas, no electricity.
6/11
6/ "There was no organized evacuation, and if there was, then why didn’t we hear anything about it in Lobanovka [an outlying area of Korenevo]?"
According to VChK-OGPU, "a similar situation exists in other border municipalities."
7/11
7/ It reports that "Kursk residents are sure that representatives of the [regional] administration, having abandoned people to their fate, themselves provoked the collapse in the border areas.
8/11
8/ "Currently, it is impossible to get through to the administration of the Korenevsky district of the Kursk region. People are forced to self-organise in order to protect themselves and their property and essentially perform the functions of state and law enforcement agencies."
9/11
Source:
10/11
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11/11
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1/ As Ukrainian forces advance in the Kursk region, law and order in frontline Russian-held areas is reported to have collapsed completely. "Rampant looting" is said have broken out – being done by the Russians themselves – while local residents say they feel abandoned.
2/11
2/ The VChK-OGPU Telegram channel reports that "in the border areas of the Kursk region, where fighting has been going on all week, there are no police, no firefighters, no doctors, no representatives of the administration.
3/11
3/ "According to official information, more than 76,000 people left the settlements (most of them left on their own, since there was no organized evacuation, despite the statements of the authorities), but there are still people there, mostly elderly."
4/11
4/ The channel says that "the desertion of villages and towns has become a catalyst for rampant looting". The disorder is being carried out by the Russians themselves, though it isn't clear if opportunistic civilians or indisciplined soldiers are responsible.
5/11
5/ A local resident says: "They are robbing stores, there is a collapse in Korenevo, the “Magnit” [supermarket, pictured below] was simply destroyed. There is no water, no gas, no electricity.
6/11
6/ "There was no organized evacuation, and if there was, then why didn’t we hear anything about it in Lobanovka [an outlying area of Korenevo]?"
According to VChK-OGPU, "a similar situation exists in other border municipalities."
7/11
7/ It reports that "Kursk residents are sure that representatives of the [regional] administration, having abandoned people to their fate, themselves provoked the collapse in the border areas.
8/11
8/ "Currently, it is impossible to get through to the administration of the Korenevsky district of the Kursk region. People are forced to self-organise in order to protect themselves and their property and essentially perform the functions of state and law enforcement agencies."
9/11
Source:
10/11
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11/11
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Dorian Breh
Veteran
It’s named after the German composer Wagner and its founder was a neonazi
The Wagner Group Explained - Yale University Press
John Mauceri— Among the many confusions about the private Russian army known as the Wagner Group is how to pronounce its name. Reporters and pundits seem to vacillate between “Wag-ner”... READ MOREyalebooks.yale.edu
Where the fukk do you get Fafnir from?
Where do they come up with this shyt lmao
"fafnir"
1/11
1/ As Ukrainian forces advance in the Kursk region, law and order in frontline Russian-held areas is reported to have collapsed completely. "Rampant looting" is said have broken out – being done by the Russians themselves – while local residents say they feel abandoned.
2/11
2/ The VChK-OGPU Telegram channel reports that "in the border areas of the Kursk region, where fighting has been going on all week, there are no police, no firefighters, no doctors, no representatives of the administration.
3/11
3/ "According to official information, more than 76,000 people left the settlements (most of them left on their own, since there was no organized evacuation, despite the statements of the authorities), but there are still people there, mostly elderly."
4/11
4/ The channel says that "the desertion of villages and towns has become a catalyst for rampant looting". The disorder is being carried out by the Russians themselves, though it isn't clear if opportunistic civilians or indisciplined soldiers are responsible.
5/11
5/ A local resident says: "They are robbing stores, there is a collapse in Korenevo, the “Magnit” [supermarket, pictured below] was simply destroyed. There is no water, no gas, no electricity.
6/11
6/ "There was no organized evacuation, and if there was, then why didn’t we hear anything about it in Lobanovka [an outlying area of Korenevo]?"
According to VChK-OGPU, "a similar situation exists in other border municipalities."
7/11
7/ It reports that "Kursk residents are sure that representatives of the [regional] administration, having abandoned people to their fate, themselves provoked the collapse in the border areas.
8/11
8/ "Currently, it is impossible to get through to the administration of the Korenevsky district of the Kursk region. People are forced to self-organise in order to protect themselves and their property and essentially perform the functions of state and law enforcement agencies."
9/11
Source:
10/11
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11/11
Addendum: The Ukrainians have now published a video which shows soldiers, possibly from the Rosgvardia, looting an abandoned Russian house in the Kursk region. New thread here:
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1/ As Ukrainian forces advance in the Kursk region, law and order in frontline Russian-held areas is reported to have collapsed completely. "Rampant looting" is said have broken out – being done by the Russians themselves – while local residents say they feel abandoned.
2/11
2/ The VChK-OGPU Telegram channel reports that "in the border areas of the Kursk region, where fighting has been going on all week, there are no police, no firefighters, no doctors, no representatives of the administration.
3/11
3/ "According to official information, more than 76,000 people left the settlements (most of them left on their own, since there was no organized evacuation, despite the statements of the authorities), but there are still people there, mostly elderly."
4/11
4/ The channel says that "the desertion of villages and towns has become a catalyst for rampant looting". The disorder is being carried out by the Russians themselves, though it isn't clear if opportunistic civilians or indisciplined soldiers are responsible.
5/11
5/ A local resident says: "They are robbing stores, there is a collapse in Korenevo, the “Magnit” [supermarket, pictured below] was simply destroyed. There is no water, no gas, no electricity.
6/11
6/ "There was no organized evacuation, and if there was, then why didn’t we hear anything about it in Lobanovka [an outlying area of Korenevo]?"
According to VChK-OGPU, "a similar situation exists in other border municipalities."
7/11
7/ It reports that "Kursk residents are sure that representatives of the [regional] administration, having abandoned people to their fate, themselves provoked the collapse in the border areas.
8/11
8/ "Currently, it is impossible to get through to the administration of the Korenevsky district of the Kursk region. People are forced to self-organise in order to protect themselves and their property and essentially perform the functions of state and law enforcement agencies."
9/11
Source:
10/11
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11/11
Addendum: The Ukrainians have now published a video which shows soldiers, possibly from the Rosgvardia, looting an abandoned Russian house in the Kursk region. New thread here:
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1/11
Ukrainian servicemen came across two Russian babushkas in the Kursk Zone, who asked for a lift, and one of them even spoke Ukrainian.
2/11
They're so relaxed, says a lot. The difference between Ukraine visiting & "russkij mir"
3/11
Babushkas clearly undercover FSB.
4/11
This must be why Putin transferred control to the FSB.
5/11
The international community is supporting Ukraine
6/11
@nickfshort that brought tears to my eyes. so I thought you'd enjoy a little happy sob, too;-)
7/11
Interesting...
8/11
Undercovers
9/11
The situation is dynamic and can change anytime
10/11
This “Glory to Ukraine” shyte is the white mans “Allah Akhbar”.
11/11
It’s very funny, in Russian telegram chats you often see Russians from Moscow or Siberia complaining, that Russians from Kursk/Belgorod,Voronezh/Krasnodar territories speak with a slight Ukrainian dialect. Of course that is bc these territories have been historically Ukrainian
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Ukrainian servicemen came across two Russian babushkas in the Kursk Zone, who asked for a lift, and one of them even spoke Ukrainian.
2/11
They're so relaxed, says a lot. The difference between Ukraine visiting & "russkij mir"
3/11
Babushkas clearly undercover FSB.
4/11
This must be why Putin transferred control to the FSB.
5/11
The international community is supporting Ukraine
6/11
@nickfshort that brought tears to my eyes. so I thought you'd enjoy a little happy sob, too;-)
7/11
Interesting...
8/11
Undercovers
9/11
The situation is dynamic and can change anytime
10/11
This “Glory to Ukraine” shyte is the white mans “Allah Akhbar”.
11/11
It’s very funny, in Russian telegram chats you often see Russians from Moscow or Siberia complaining, that Russians from Kursk/Belgorod,Voronezh/Krasnodar territories speak with a slight Ukrainian dialect. Of course that is bc these territories have been historically Ukrainian
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1/11
Why is the FSB, Russia's security service, leading the response to the Kursk incursion? Not because of any distrust of the military. A repeat of the template used in the second Chechen war, @MassDara points out:
2/11
Dara is a "soft" russian influencer
3/11
Get stuffed.
4/11
Quite certain they assumed control during First Chechen war too with little success. Will double check when home.
5/11
Also because it’s a domestic matter
6/11
In order to shoot Russian soldiers who desert or surrender and also to arrest civilians who complain about being made homeless. Also, in order to humiliate Gerasimov.
7/11
I think FSB still more trusted than MoD. Military to lead expulsion of Ukrainians from Kursk. Legislation/C2 in place for Guard, border, other troops to support military on Russian soil. Ministry of Emergencies to lean on humanitarian issues. As practiced during exercise Zapads.
8/11
Okay, but why was it used then?
Question remains the same.
9/11
I wouldn’t get too over my skis on this one. The FSB, as owners of the border guards, own the mission for border defense for number of kilometers inside the border. In the Russian armed forces structure, it’s a territorial defense role, not just manning checkpoints.
10/11
One possible explanation is that russia wants to treat the "Ukrainian incursion" as "terrorism." FSB is tasked to respond to internal threats. This is congruent with the russian narrative of a "special military operation," not war, and minimises the scale of what's going on.
11/11
And what exactly is this template and what are its advantages?
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Why is the FSB, Russia's security service, leading the response to the Kursk incursion? Not because of any distrust of the military. A repeat of the template used in the second Chechen war, @MassDara points out:
2/11
Dara is a "soft" russian influencer
3/11
Get stuffed.
4/11
Quite certain they assumed control during First Chechen war too with little success. Will double check when home.
5/11
Also because it’s a domestic matter
6/11
In order to shoot Russian soldiers who desert or surrender and also to arrest civilians who complain about being made homeless. Also, in order to humiliate Gerasimov.
7/11
I think FSB still more trusted than MoD. Military to lead expulsion of Ukrainians from Kursk. Legislation/C2 in place for Guard, border, other troops to support military on Russian soil. Ministry of Emergencies to lean on humanitarian issues. As practiced during exercise Zapads.
8/11
Okay, but why was it used then?
Question remains the same.
9/11
I wouldn’t get too over my skis on this one. The FSB, as owners of the border guards, own the mission for border defense for number of kilometers inside the border. In the Russian armed forces structure, it’s a territorial defense role, not just manning checkpoints.
10/11
One possible explanation is that russia wants to treat the "Ukrainian incursion" as "terrorism." FSB is tasked to respond to internal threats. This is congruent with the russian narrative of a "special military operation," not war, and minimises the scale of what's going on.
11/11
And what exactly is this template and what are its advantages?
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1/11
Russians currently having a normal one on Telegram as they claim to be engaged with and destroying "two battalions" of the "French Legion," taking no prisoners, and looking forward to sending "thousands of body bags to Paris".
2/11
P.S I swear to god I can write and that absolute gore of a second and third paragraph is just me trying to maintain a faithful translation of the absolutely unhinged, fifteen comma, no full stop, writing style of the original.
3/11
“We’re not taking a single prisoner”, sounds a lot like “no quarter” to me. I love some casual admission of war crimes in the morning
4/11
He said it TWICE.
5/11
A thousand French mercs but they'll send thousands of graves? Empty or who else is going to fill them?
6/11
Mistranslation on my part, that word means "Coffins".
So they're basically saying they're going to send thousands of dead French legionaries back to Paris.
7/11
What's the name of that channel ?
8/11
"Srochneye Novostyi"
"Urgent News"
9/11
I like the image of graves heading towards Paris
10/11
It's 'coffins' I mistranslated.
11/11
Someone alert Napoleon!
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Russians currently having a normal one on Telegram as they claim to be engaged with and destroying "two battalions" of the "French Legion," taking no prisoners, and looking forward to sending "thousands of body bags to Paris".
2/11
P.S I swear to god I can write and that absolute gore of a second and third paragraph is just me trying to maintain a faithful translation of the absolutely unhinged, fifteen comma, no full stop, writing style of the original.
3/11
“We’re not taking a single prisoner”, sounds a lot like “no quarter” to me. I love some casual admission of war crimes in the morning
4/11
He said it TWICE.
5/11
A thousand French mercs but they'll send thousands of graves? Empty or who else is going to fill them?
6/11
Mistranslation on my part, that word means "Coffins".
So they're basically saying they're going to send thousands of dead French legionaries back to Paris.
7/11
What's the name of that channel ?
8/11
"Srochneye Novostyi"
"Urgent News"
9/11
I like the image of graves heading towards Paris
10/11
It's 'coffins' I mistranslated.
11/11
Someone alert Napoleon!
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BigDikktapeCity :shaq:
Why the Ukrainian president always dress like he just got back from running errands on his day off? Stuck in quarantine mode. Dude still presidenting from home.1/11
Kursk: Believing Putin is under pressure or has lost prestige is a Western perspective. Russian information ecology works differently. The Kremlin seems to feel secure. It has been transparent, sharing videos from SecCouncil meetings and governors' messages about the impact. 1/3
2/11
2/3 Second, Putin has used the situation to argue that "it is now clear why Ukraine rejects our proposals to return to the peace settlement plan." While Western commentators may mock Putin's "provocation" narrative as ridiculous, it resonates with Russian citizens in the country.
3/11
3/3 Third, there's a clear, long established distinction between the bad state bureaucracy and the "good" President. Russian milbloggers will blame Gerasimov (whom they hate anyway) and the Ministry of Defense, while locals will blame the incompetence of the regional governors.
4/11
Local residents don't seem to think it has been transparent, though.
5/11
Yes, that's true, but they still blame the state admin. I refer here to the overall communication policy though. The Kremlin was under no pressure to publish videos of meetings or let Kommersant publish the article you might refer to. Usmanov surely would've intervened if told so
6/11
That's why they've been broadcasting fake videos of Russian airstrikes on Ukrainian forces in Kursk, right? "Transparency"? Russian MoD videos claim “successful strikes” against Ukrainian forces in Kursk Region — but the footage is old and filmed elsewhere
7/11
Yeah, that’s why it took them 3days to acknowledge the incursion.
8/11
Why you would believe the statements of oblast governors in Russia is the more interesting information ecology aspect of your post.
9/11
10/11
kremlin ist transparent, lmao
11/11
Many politicians in the West seem to have lost the ability to put themselves into the shoes of others for the purpose of understanding the consequences of own actions. And many journalists, too, I should add.
At least thats how I perceive it.
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Kursk: Believing Putin is under pressure or has lost prestige is a Western perspective. Russian information ecology works differently. The Kremlin seems to feel secure. It has been transparent, sharing videos from SecCouncil meetings and governors' messages about the impact. 1/3
2/11
2/3 Second, Putin has used the situation to argue that "it is now clear why Ukraine rejects our proposals to return to the peace settlement plan." While Western commentators may mock Putin's "provocation" narrative as ridiculous, it resonates with Russian citizens in the country.
3/11
3/3 Third, there's a clear, long established distinction between the bad state bureaucracy and the "good" President. Russian milbloggers will blame Gerasimov (whom they hate anyway) and the Ministry of Defense, while locals will blame the incompetence of the regional governors.
4/11
Local residents don't seem to think it has been transparent, though.
5/11
Yes, that's true, but they still blame the state admin. I refer here to the overall communication policy though. The Kremlin was under no pressure to publish videos of meetings or let Kommersant publish the article you might refer to. Usmanov surely would've intervened if told so
6/11
That's why they've been broadcasting fake videos of Russian airstrikes on Ukrainian forces in Kursk, right? "Transparency"? Russian MoD videos claim “successful strikes” against Ukrainian forces in Kursk Region — but the footage is old and filmed elsewhere
7/11
Yeah, that’s why it took them 3days to acknowledge the incursion.
8/11
Why you would believe the statements of oblast governors in Russia is the more interesting information ecology aspect of your post.
9/11
10/11
kremlin ist transparent, lmao
11/11
Many politicians in the West seem to have lost the ability to put themselves into the shoes of others for the purpose of understanding the consequences of own actions. And many journalists, too, I should add.
At least thats how I perceive it.
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he's a war time president who's people and soldiers are in the shyt. wearing a suit and tie or slacks and dress shirts for two years while his citizens are killed would be bad optics.
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