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Why do you think someone like Burnham doesnt run?
The timing has to be right.

The support has to be there. I think Keir has to first step aside. I dont get the impression Andy would undercut him.
 

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One thing it has shown me. Culture wars is where it's at in politics. Appealing to common sense isn't really the play.

Labour needs their own culture message when shyt starts hitting the fan like with Brexit.

Personally Brexit made the Tories the party of the common man, but it can also break them.

Labour needs to say Brexit is done, we respect the decision of the people, but look at the mess the people you trusted have gotten you in. They were only looking out for themselves.

Where are the trade deals? We will pit them in place.

Where is the support for Blue collar workers? Here is our plan.

They just need to wait until Scotland moves to leave the union after the referendum and then pile on the pressure.

I Scotland votes to stay, I can't see anything stopping the Tories from a long majority.
 

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No... there really isn't.

Labour has been in power for 30 years out of the last 120 years and due to FPTP we really cannot afford to have the vote split any further. Tory voters will happily vote in corrupt, incompetent MPs as long as they achieve their single issue. But we do need to show we won't vote Labour just because the Tories are awful. We vote for a vision.

If anything a large issue is that Labour is trying to put people into boxes and straddle the center ground... but it no longer exists. We're in an era fraught with culture wars, populism and above all voters who don't want business as usual.

If both parties fail to understand this then the Tories have an overwhelming advantage, because they're realistically the only center right party so the don't need to share their votes with anyone other than say the lib dems. Not to mention a lot of their vote is condensed in Southern England.
So that means win the red wall back. But how? Why are people in Preston, Blackpool voting tory? What reason does anyone in the Greater Manchester towns (Bolton, Kearsley, Cheadle Hume) or Birmingham (Dudley, Solihull) have to be voting tory?



Yeah. We pulled that one out.

Still a deeply unhappy racial undertone being thrown at him and encouraged by the tories.

In America they say it out loud, here they just imply and insinuate.
He was running against a black guy too.
One thing it has shown me. Culture wars is where it's at in politics. Appealing to common sense isn't really the play.

Labour needs their own culture message when shyt starts hitting the fan like with Brexit.

Personally Brexit made the Tories the party of the common man, but it can also break them.

Labour needs to say Brexit is done, we respect the decision of the people, but look at the mess the people you trusted have gotten you in. They were only looking out for themselves.

Where are the trade deals? We will pit them in place.

Where is the support for Blue collar workers? Here is our plan.

They just need to wait until Scotland moves to leave the union after the referendum and then pile on the pressure.

I Scotland votes to stay, I can't see anything stopping the Tories from a long majority.
Scotland won't leave. The Lothian towns, Orkney, etc won't stand for losing their government gigs because of the peoples republic of Glasgow.

Welsh Labour did well though
 
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Union boss in 'deport Priti Patel' race row: Unite leadership hopeful slammed over call for Home Secretary to be kicked out of the country 'instead of refugees' amid Glasgow immigration stand-off
  • Howard Beckett tweeted calling for Home Secretary Priti Patel to be deported
  • He is in the running to succeed Len McCluskey as general secretary of Unite
  • Social media users accused him of racism and warned it 'sounded like the BNP'

A leadership candidate for one of Britain's biggest trade unions was accused of racism last night after he called for Priti Patel to be deported.

Howard Beckett is running to succeed Len McCluskey as general secretary of Unite.

In a message posted on Twitter yesterday, he called for the Home Secretary, Britain's most senior ethnic minority politician, to be kicked out :mjpls: .

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The tweet, in response to an attempt to deport two asylum seekers in Glasgow, read: 'Priti Patel should be deported, not refugees. She can go along with anyone else who supports institutional racism. She is disgusting.'

It prompted an immediate backlash, with social media users telling Mr Beckett it was 'racist' and warning that his remark 'sounded like the BNP'.

The fallout came as huge crowds cheered and applauded yesterday as two Indian men detained by Border Force officials in an immigration van were eventually released by police following a stand-off with hundreds of protesters.

Locals surrounded the enforcement vehicle on Thursday afternoon, with some sitting on the road in front of it, and one even laying underneath it, as part of a demonstration against an earlier immigration raid.

Around 200 protesters were at the scene, with chants of 'Leave our neighbours, let them go' and 'Cops go home' being heard as a ring of police stood around the van.

Unite leadership hopeful accused of racism after calling for Home Secretary leave the country | Daily Mail Online
 
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