UFC brehs, why is Weiman being protected so much ?

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What I will say though is that a 3rd fight with Silva right now is bullshyt. The UFC is just money hungry and willing to overlook contenders that are deserving at the moment, like Jacare. However, that potential match-up has nothing to do with Weidman being white or being the 'great white hope'. It's about money and nothing is bigger or can generate more profit than Silva fighting again for a title.

If Silva looks dominant against Diaz, then why not give him a 3rd shot? He's never lost convincingly to half the UFC fanbase, so they would shell out the bucks for a final match and a final conclusion.

On the flipside

If Silva looks washed up against Diaz or loses, then he wont get that 3rd shot against Weidman and I believe they will have Weidman face the winner of Jacare/Romero or Rockhold next....especially if the winner of Jacare/Romero look dominant in victory.
 

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Hell, Anderson Silva from Silva/Weidman 1 is > Rockhold/Jacare/Romero combined:camby:
Why doesnt this guy understand the simple concept that styles make fights? :why:machida is clearly better than coleman but coleman nearly beat shogun (lyoto was never even close) because of stylistically he had a tool that shogun was susceptible to :mjpls:
If Silva looks dominant against Diaz, then why not give him a 3rd shot? .
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Styles make fights...but UFC doesn't go by that model. Draws/matchups the fans will PAY FOR makes fights.

How do you post about MMA all day but cant grasp that? @Roman Brady

And yes, if Silva dominates Diaz, he deserves a 3rd shot because of the fact he's never had a clear loss to Weidman + the UFC fanbase would prefer that 3rd fight over Weidman/Rockhold. If Silva looks bad, then no...he won't get it.
 

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brehs, let's be honest saying he fought Silva 2x is foolish ? Both fights were flukes. 1 was a lucky punch off taunting and the other was a broken leg. He has never dominated anybody like Rampoage or Bones has. NEVER since he's been champ. Machida is past his prime and don't tell me Vitor is the best he could get. Jacare still roaming free ? Why not make Jacare-Weidman ? Rockhold is another tough opponent with good TD skills. He will be the GSP of the MW division, except GSP actually fought good comp at the beginning.

Dominated anybody like Rampage? The last time Rampage dominated somebody decent was over 6 years ago (when he KO'd Wand).

Weidman has never dominated since becoming champ? He was dominating Anderson before the broken leg. Since winning the belt, he's dominated 1/2 his fights. That's a good percentage for someone who's only had 2 title defences.

Machida is not past his prime, he's an elite MW.

Like I said, when Weidman/Vitor was set up for the second time (end of July 2014), Jacare wasn't more deserving than Vitor. And he wasn't as big a name.

Wins over Bisping, Rockhold, Henderson > Carmont, Okami, Camozzi, Herman, Brunson, Marunde

* Jacare beat Mousasi after Weidman/Vitor was set up [July 2014].

Rockhold? Vitor KO'd Rockhold brutally and is a bigger name. Wins over Bisping, Rockhold, Henderson > Philipou & Boetsch

* Rockhold beat Bisping after Weidman/Vitor was set up.
 
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@Roman Brady still waiting for a logical response to this post.
What response are you hoping for? the post is littered with "most deserving" when we know the ufc will operate in another direction when they see fit.. Like I have said it isnt a bizarre notion that after rockhold took out bisping during the presser he would be named the next contender.To basically hold on to the vitor/weidman fight for dear life despite the contenders that have emerged since is kind of telling
 

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Roman Brady's logic: Let's set up Weidman with lower ranked and less accomplished fighters.

:mindblown:
Quit holding on to these rankings man its a flawed argument, I dont remember you batting an eye lid when nick diaz was slotted in for the belt instead of hendricks or when hardy jumped the queue to face gsp. "Lower ranked" guys have been known to garner title shots many times in the past only difference with rockhold is "he isnt a draw" & stylistically he presents problems to the "all american champion" whereas these "higher ranked" "more accomplished fighters" have deficiencies that play to the "all american's" strengths :mjpls:
 

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If Silva looks dominant against Diaz, then why not give him a 3rd shot? He's never lost convincingly to half the UFC fanbase, so they would shell out the bucks for a final match and a final conclusion.

On the flipside

If Silva looks washed up against Diaz or loses, then he wont get that 3rd shot against Weidman and I believe they will have Weidman face the winner of Jacare/Romero or Rockhold next....especially if the winner of Jacare/Romero look dominant in victory.

Anderson is not deserving of a title shot coming off a win over a WW in Nick Diaz.

Let's say Jacare beats Romero, that will put him on an 8-win streak. Wins over Mousasi, Carmont, Romero*, Okami, etc. > Nick Diaz

I understand what you're saying though. The money fight is Anderson/Weidman III.
 

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What response are you hoping for? the post is littered with "most deserving" when we know the ufc will operate in another direction when they see fit.. Like I have said it isnt a bizarre notion that after rockhold took out bisping during the presser he would be named the next contender.To basically hold on to the vitor/weidman fight for dear life despite the contenders that have emerged since is kind of telling

The match-ups that I stated made the most sense, in terms of who was deserving and who was a big name.

Why in the world would the UFC make a title fight (Vitor/Weidman), start promoting that title fight, then turn around and give the title shot to a fighter (Rockhold) who:

- Recently lost to the fighter you're taking the title shot away from
- Not as big a name.
- Not as deserving
:mindblown:

That makes absolutely no sense.
 
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Styles make fights...but UFC doesn't go by that model. Draws/matchups the fans will PAY FOR makes fights.

How do you post about MMA all day but cant grasp that? @Roman Brady

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:beli: we are splitting heirs here and veering somewhat, what you have written here anchors the argument I have been making on why rockhold and em (who pose stylistic problems) are being stifled for named fighters :mjpls:
 

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Quit holding on to these rankings man its a flawed argument, I dont remember you batting an eye lid when nick diaz was slotted in for the belt instead of hendricks or when hardy jumped the queue to face gsp. "Lower ranked" guys have been known to garner title shots many times in the past only difference with rockhold is "he isnt a draw" & stylistically he presents problems to the "all american champion" whereas these "higher ranked" "more accomplished fighters" have deficiencies that play to the "all american's" strengths :mjpls:

My exact quotes regarding Hendricks not getting a title shot [from Dec 2012 and then Jan 2013]:
I feel bad for Hendricks. He's been on a fukkin' TEAR. Imagine if he has to take one more fight

Although I don't agree the decision, you can clearly see why GSP/Diaz was made.

Swing and a miss. :pachaha:

Who did Hardy jump past? GSP had already beat the fighters [Fitch, Alves & Koscheck] ranked ahead of Hardy.

Rankings are not the perfect system. However, they are a good tool in measuring how good a fighter was/is.
 

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The match-ups that I stated made the most sense, in terms of who was deserving and who was a big name.

Why in the world would the UFC make a title fight (Vitor/Weidman), start promoting that title fight, then turn around and give the title shot to a fighter (Rockhold) who:

- Recently lost to the fighter you're taking the title shot away from
- Not as big a name.
- Not as deserving
:mindblown:

That makes absolutely no sense.
what sense did it make for sonnen to lose to the MW champion x2 then the first fight he takes at a weight above is against its champ :mjcry:...Things fall through and you got to go with option B you think if tj grant returned hed get an instant shot against pettis? :mjpls:After machida they should have gone with rockhold vitor has been in limbo too long, thats how it should have played out but as we know something else is at play here
 

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what sense did it make for sonnen to lose to the MW champion x2 then the first fight he takes at a weight above is against its champ :mjcry:...Things fall through and you got to go with option B you think if tj grant returned hed get an instant shot against pettis? :mjpls:After machida they should have gone with rockhold vitor has been in limbo too long, thats how it should have played out but as we know something else is at play here

Your main point still makes absolutely no sense.
 

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My exact quotes regarding Hendricks not getting a title shot [from Dec 2012 and then Jan 2013]:




Swing and a miss.
u stating the date and muti-quotng your words is redundant, use the permalink or who cares :mjpls:
Who did Hardy jump past? GSP had already beat the fighters [Fitch, Alves & Koscheck] ranked ahead of Hardy.
toolong ago to care but looking at those names you obviously book a rematch like they tend to do before you give hardy a title shot
Rankings are not the perfect system. However, they are a good tool in measuring how good a fighter was/is.
Like when they were first introduced and sonnen was nowhere to be seen in the list of middleweights? :heh:
 

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u stating the date and muti-quotng your words is redundant, use the permalink or who cares :mjpls:
toolong ago to care but looking at those names you obviously book a rematch like they tend to do before you give hardy a title shot
Like when they were first introduced and sonnen was nowhere to be seen in the list of middleweights? :heh:

I'm taking about rankings in general (from reputable sites). Not just the UFC's. And like I said, rankings are not a perfect system, it has it's faults.
 
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