UFC brehs, why is Weiman being protected so much ?

[Roman Brady]

What action could the UFC have taken (in regards to the commission banning TRT)?

Given up the ghost and moved on from vitor, it held up the division and we all know it wont be competetive its just a farce.But we know the reason they are gong ho about making that fight happened

In this hypothetical scenario, everything else about Weidman is the same, the only difference is he's black. You have to remember he's still injury prone. So let's go the moment where Weidman beat Anderson for the 2nd time (because whether Weidman was black, brown or whatever, he would've still had to fight Anderson the 2nd time). The best & most deserving contender at that time (end of 2013) was easily Vitor. The UFC set up a match-up with Vitor, so hypothetical black Weidman woud've also gotten Vitor.

Then the NSAC bans TRT, Vitor pulls out. At this time, you know who the most deserving & best contender was? Machida (ahead of the likes of Jacare,Rockhold, Romero, etc). What fight did the UFC set up? A fight with Machida, hypothetical Weidman would've also gotten Machida. Once Weidman won, the next most deserving contender was still Vitor. At this time, among fans, pundits, media, etc. Vitor was the next highest best MW contender. Also and very importantly, Vitor was the biggest name available. So Weidman got a Vitor match-up and hypothetical Weidman would've also gotten a Vitor match-up. So here we are today.

As you can see Weidman and hypothetical Weidman would've gotten the same match-ups. Also, you have to remember that Weidman since his second win over Anderson has suffered a knee injury and a broken hand.

I never mentioned anything about the sequel my gripe is with the proposed trilogy which shows zuffa's hand, no 2 ways about it..And like I said before rockhold fight could have easily been made before machida ever entered the equation

 

[LeVraiPapi]

brehs, let's be honest saying he fought Silva 2x is foolish ? Both fights were flukes. 1 was a lucky punch off taunting and the other was a broken leg. He has never dominated anybody like Rampoage or Bones has. NEVER since he's been champ. Machida is past his prime and don't tell me Vitor is the best he could get. Jacare still roaming free ? Why not make Jacare-Weidman ? Rockhold is another tough opponent with good TD skills. He will be the GSP of the MW division, except GSP actually fought good comp at the beginning.

 

[Roman Brady]

You cherry picking a few minor/trivial faults is not going to accomplish anything. That's like me saying Jones is facing Rumble? The same Rumble that got submitted by a lightweight in Clementi and later on a WW in Koscheck. The same Rumble that had to lay & pray to victory against Dan Hardy?

makes no sense i cant ever comprehend that example, to use AJ's past to invalidate his contendership is foolish because of what hes achievement since.Have we even seen what vitor fights like off trt? we know what he looks like and we have the stats for w/l records of fighters in the same position

so get out of here with that weak trash

 

[Roman Brady]

You dont make any sense.


You said:



Explain yourself


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I dont need to explain shyt you need to learn to read.That post was aimed at another poster I already replied to what you ask dont know why you are trying to merge the 2 points.

 

[Dragonfly Jones]

Maybe he wants to keep him with the belt until Anderson Silva is ready to get that 3peat, win the title back and then retire

 

[The Infamous]

makes no sense i cant ever comprehend that example, to use AJ's past to invalidate his contendership is foolish because of what hes achievement since.Have we even seen what vitor fights like off trt? we know what he looks like and we have the stats for w/l records of fighters in the same position

so get out of her with that weak trash

I cherry picked minor/trivial/irrelevant faults in Rumble like you just did to Machida & Vitor. Forget what I said about Rumble because it was trivial and was only used to get my point across. I wasn't trying to invalidate his contendership idiot.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

machida was a wack match, they both bullshytted around did nothing but jabs.

if he beats vitor ill give him a nod, esp if he finishes him. I hope vitor knocks him out.

 

[The Infamous]

Yeah, beacause the UFC has shown this in their prior treatments against Rampage Jackson and Rashad Evans


And your point is contradictory, because you're writing it like Rockhold/etc are tougher opponents than Silva. If the hypothetical black fighter would have already fought Rockhold and them,....why wouldnt he have fought Silva then?


Did Rampage not get Chuck Liddell, Hendo, Forest Griffen, Wandy, Rashad, Machida, and Bones?

Did Evans not get Tito 2x, Liddell, Forest, Machida, Rampage, and Bones?

But, for some reason, your hypothetical black fighter wouldnt get the biggest names in his division...regardless what history has shown for black champions in UFC



?

Don't bother arguing with that idiot breh. Now you know why he was in the running for the Ring's WOAT.

 

[The Infamous]

machida was a wack match, they both bullshytted around did nothing but jabs.

if he beats vitor ill give him a nod, esp if he finishes him. I hope vitor knocks him out.

 

[Newzz]

brehs, let's be honest saying he fought Silva 2x is foolish ? Both fights were flukes. 1 was a lucky punch off taunting and the other was a broken leg. He has never dominated anybody like Rampoage or Bones has. NEVER since he's been champ. Machida is past his prime and don't tell me Vitor is the best he could get. Jacare still roaming free ? Why not make Jacare-Weidman ? Rockhold is another tough opponent with good TD skills. He will be the GSP of the MW division, except GSP actually fought good comp at the beginning.

Jacare is fighting Romero...winner of those 2 (at Weidman/Belfort) would be in prime position to call out the Champion after the money making end of the trilogy Weidman/Silva. More I think about it, the winner of Jacare/Romero vs Rockhold is probably gonna be the next opponent for the winner of Weidman/Silva 3.

I dont need to explain shyt you need to learn to read.That post was aimed at another poster I already replied to what you ask dont know why you are trying to merge the 2 points.

How did I merge 2 posts?


You said:

He would have faced, rockhold, romero and jacare by now. He wouldnt only fight on ronda rousey cards. The proposed silva trilogy wouldnt be happening

That's from 1 single post you made that doesnt make any sense. Why would Weidman, if he was black, have faced rockhold/romero/souza already....but not be fighting Silva for the 3rd time?


Are you implying he would lose against 1 of the 3? What are you saying, because you never responded to the factual breakdown of HOW Weidman's opponents were given to him posted by @The Infamous


Explain yourself

 

[The Infamous]

Roman Brady's logic: Let's set up Weidman with lower ranked and less accomplished fighters.

 

[The Infamous]

What action could the UFC have taken (in regards to the commission banning TRT)?

In this hypothetical scenario, everything else about Weidman is the same, the only difference is he's black. You have to remember he's still injury prone. So let's go the moment where Weidman beat Anderson for the 2nd time (because whether Weidman was black, brown or whatever, he would've still had to fight Anderson the 2nd time). The best & most deserving contender at that time (end of 2013) was easily Vitor. The UFC set up a match-up with Vitor, so hypothetical black Weidman would've also gotten Vitor.

Then the NSAC bans TRT, Vitor pulls out. At this time, you know who the most deserving & best contender was? Machida (ahead of the likes of Jacare,Rockhold, Romero, etc). What fight did the UFC set up? A fight with Machida, hypothetical Weidman would've also gotten Machida. Once Weidman won, the next most deserving contender was still Vitor. At this time, among fans, pundits, media, etc. Vitor was the next highest best MW contender. Also and very importantly, Vitor was the biggest name available. So Weidman got a Vitor match-up and hypothetical Weidman would've also gotten a Vitor match-up. So here we are today.

@Roman Brady still waiting for a logical response to this post.

 

[Newzz]

Roman Brady's logic: Let's set up Weidman with lower ranked and less accomplished fighters.

It just doesnt make sense when you say "if Weidman was black he would've already faced Rockhold, Jacare, and Romero" and exclude the fact he's already faced Maia, Munoz, Silva 2x, Machida, and now Belfort. In what world is having Rockhold/Jacare/Romero on your resume over the opponents Weidman actually have on his resume held in more esteem?

Hell, Anderson Silva from Silva/Weidman 1 is > Rockhold/Jacare/Romero combined

 

[The Infamous]

What I will say though is that a 3rd fight with Silva right now is bullshyt. The UFC is just money hungry and willing to overlook contenders that are deserving at the moment, like Jacare. However, that potential match-up has nothing to do with Weidman being white or being the 'great white hope'. It's about money and nothing is bigger or can generate more profit than Silva fighting again for a title.

 

[Roman Brady]

machida was a wack match, they both bullshytted around did nothing but jabs.

if he beats vitor ill give him a nod, esp if he finishes him. I hope vitor knocks him out.

whats validating about beating a TRT-less vitor in 2015?