UFC 293 On ESPN+ PPV [9/9 at 10 pm ET] “Viewer Discretion Is Advised” (Sean Strickland/Israel Adesanya)

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prince_peoples

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Anderson had a lower level of competition of course he racked up wins:comeon:
this is cap

A prime Anderson would feast vs todays MW, he would be by far the most talented all around fighter in the weight class.


This fight is a prime example of why I don't take "I'd rather watch UFC because boxing is boring" nikkas serious but wasn't always able to articulate why

MMA nikkas get downloaded and deconstructed so frequently because there are SO many gimmicks and gaps in nikkas styles.

UFC is entertaining but the lack of polish is deafening at times
yeah boxing is def the better sport,

GSP, Anderson, Jones were def the golden age of MMA imo, these new fighters are just not as good imo
 

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The clinch and separation in boxing is cancer, I did everything I could to get into boxing last week and I settled on Glory. Boxing is like golf or baseball, unless you grew up watching or playing, it's not interesting
I agree about the clinch. I despise that shyt

But even with me hating clinches the volume of skill output in a boxing match is miles ahead of mma
 

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He was (still is) a neo nazi in his younger years and took the belt from an African fighter in a frankly dominating fashion. That's gonna get him a lot of mma fans

He got transitional champ written all over him. If that Khamzat dude wins its a wrap.

I stopped checking for UFC after around 2011-2012 personally does nothing for me, and I know people who ain’t got a pot to piss in who fought on UFC FOX and PPV’s living under freeways and shyt

Combat sports is a bytch
 

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This fight is a prime example of why I don't take "I'd rather watch UFC because boxing is boring" nikkas serious but wasn't always able to articulate why

MMA nikkas get downloaded and deconstructed so frequently because there are SO many gimmicks and gaps in nikkas styles.

UFC is entertaining but the lack of polish is deafening at times

As a boxer I fukk with and respect mma cats heavily. But they hands be fukking trash man. every kickboxer or mma cat I've sparred I've styled on without even wanting to because they boxing is so rudimentary. I'm just shocked no one in that camp had an adjustment. shyt is inconceivable.

"hey izzy hes rolling all your shyt from a distance, you are going to have to fight in the pocket to get something over the top"

Like this shyt you learn early in the gym cuz everyone thinks they are floyd so you fukk them up so they actually learn regular defense, THEN you can try a philly :dead:
 

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It’s not even just that it’s the fact that these guys are within his elbow space that means going for takedowns or even clinches (as a kickboxer he should be using those to dig knees into the body and allow space for power punches that can KO on the disengage) shows how much of a fraud he is

He was a height bully that’s why he was winning early but even then he was on dumb shyt with sloppy defense
Height Bully?

The man continuously defends his title. Who was he avoiding?
 

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You said you didn't even rewatch it and now you're using this loss to reinforce your bias:what:
nikka the way Izzy was getting hit reinforced my bias :what:


yall just believing Izzy saying he was playing possum because he won, in that instance where that knockout happened, that the replayed 100 times today, it looked the same as the first time Alex stopped him, extremely dangerous, and Izzy let one fly
 

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izzy always throws horrible punches

He has fought a lot of guys who gave up a lot of reach and height so they would lung in and over extend.

Strickland never over extended, cut off the ring while applying a lot of pressure.

izzy is a lot of flash and little substance.
This right here

Just like jon Jones he's a pure kickboxer even Jones got dropped by decent boxing from Dominic reyes
 

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Costa and Whittaker over extended though. Strickland was never gonna do that. I expected Izzy to have a plan for him, you can't try to box against a shell like from the distances Izzy uses as he'll just fukking roll with everything. Eventually you will have to engage to test his reflexs because while that shyt is a good defense, it is almost entirely predicated on Chin/reflexes. I'm surprised he look so lost, like they spar boxers right? I've sparred MMA cats and they are always so awkward, so i'm not shocked but izzy is the 0.0001% I expected better. I'm just dissapointed :mjlol: I fukks with izzy as a fighter

Its almost like he fought completely perfect fight to make strickland look invincible :scusthov:

The knockdown at the end of the first changed the complexion of the fight, without that boost in confidence I don't see Sean being so bold. Though it's a catch 22 because that flurry woke Izzy up; this was going to be 3-2 Israel decision if it was a clean fight. Izzy going forward might need to humble himself and incorporate some wrestling because his chin is suspect at his age.
 
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The knockdown at the end of the first change the complexion of the fight, without that boost in confidence I don't see Sean being so bold. Though it's a catch 22 because that flurry woke Izzy up; this fight was going to be 3-2 Israel decision if it was a clean fight. Izzy going forward might need to humble himself and incorporate some wrestling because his chin is suspect at his age.

Beloved Sean wasn't being bold if you've watched him fight before thats literally how he fights against everyone, all the time. He plods forward, and jabs their head off. Izzy was spooked to get in the pocket or trade with him though. Pereira isn't and flatlined him in one :yeshrug:
 

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As a boxer I fukk with and respect mma cats heavily. But they hands be fukking trash man. every kickboxer or mma cat I've sparred I've styled on without even wanting to because they boxing is so rudimentary. I'm just shocked no one in that camp had an adjustment. shyt is inconceivable.

"hey izzy hes rolling all your shyt from a distance, you are going to have to fight in the pocket to get something over the top"

Like this shyt you learn early in the gym cuz everyone thinks they are floyd so you fukk them up so they actually learn regular defense, THEN you can try a philly :dead:
It's funny to see the same mistakes after all these years of proven data

Boxers and wrestlers wreck shyt in UFC but nikkas priorities haven't adjusted to reflect that:russ:

Coincidentally I halfway understand because boxing and wrestling are burdened with inhuman levels of conditioning and trainers probably feel like it would take from the overall package but again we see how boxers and wrestlers do everybody else :francis: ironic that they mentioned Holly Holm tonight too
 

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nikka the way Izzy was getting hit reinforced my bias :what:


yall just believing Izzy saying he was playing possum because he won, in that instance where that knockout happened, that the replayed 100 times today, it looked the same as the first time Alex stopped him, extremely dangerous, and Izzy let one fly

How about you actually watch the fukking fight then say something:camby:
 
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