UFC 252 On ESPN+ PPV [8/15] “The Trilogy In LV” (Daniel Cormier/Stipe Miocic III, O’Malley/Vera)

[The G.O.D II]

He had 8 inch reach advantage but was letting DC get that shytty jab off for free Stipe should've ended this shyt

Ok and? DC is extremely fast and durable

 

[The axe murderer]

So did Wlad Klitschko. Would you rank him higher than Lennox Lewis?

Nah Joe Louis no 1 for defenses.

 

[LastManStanding]

UFC be like ...

"Megan Olivi will go down in history as the GREATEST OF ALL TIME backstage interviewer there is"

"the smaller, 25ft Octagon is without a doubt the GREATEST OF ALL TIME Octagon in the history of all Octagons"

"Daniel Cormier is not only one of the GREATEST OF ALL TIME combat sports athletes, but with his four fights in the UFC heavyweight division he is also one of the GREATEST OF ALL TIME heavyweights we have ever seen"

"Amanda Nunes is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME female fighter there is since she TKO'd the former GREATEST OF ALL TIME female fighter Ronda Rousey"

"Fox Sports was the GREATEST OF ALL TIME sports network until we reached a new television deal with the current GREATEST OF ALL TIME sports network ESPN"

 

[Vilify]

I had it 4-1 Stipe as well. He fought smarter and did more damage.

DC should have been the one clinching and dirty boxing. He should have gone for takedowns after connecting and not just throw the same right hand over and over looking for a KO. I get it, he likes to fight hard and finish, but he really should have strategized better tonight.

 

[sportscribe]

Nah Joe Louis no 1 for defenses.

True, but Wlad had the longest active reign.

 

[Inertia Creeps]

Daniel Cormier is 41 years old, besides the fact that Stipe can wrestle himself, dude is way beyond the age of being able to wrestle to a victory without gassing himself out. Stipe is not Volkan or Lewis, dude isn't someone DC can just mandhandle in wrestling.

The problem wasn't that DC didn't wrestlefukk him effortlessly like he did with Lewis, the problem was outside of literally ONE single exchange/takedown he never seriously threatened his wrestling at any point in the fight. Not even earnestly faking a level change and just putting that into Stipe's head for him to ever have to think about made it that much easier for him to find his timing, range, and let his hands go knowing DC wasn't even gonna feint punishing him for it.

This is what makes Khabib so otherworldly; so many "elite" grapplers nowadays straight up abandon even trying to wrestle or take a fight to the ground if they get stuffed once or their opponent gets up just one time. Khabib fully commits to every shot, trip, throw, etc. and he relentlessly chains them into ten more wizzers, transitions, passes, trips, etc. Which then gasses his opponent out trying to fight the onslaught of pressure, making that easier to setup in the following rounds. shyt ain't 2005 where all wrestle boxers had in their arsenal was one single sprawl and that was it for the whole fight; you can't be GSP spamming telegraphed double legs and expect to get it 100% of the time and for the opponent to never get up from it in modern MMA. You gotta commit and keep the pressure and adjustments up constantly. Or the opponent will adjust and put the pressure on you

 

[Bryan Danielson]

He had 8 inch reach advantage but was letting DC get that shytty jab off for free Stipe should've ended this shyt

Thanks Cuz

And was gassed and had one good eye..... ONE.

I just feel like the Stipe of a year ago would’ve knocked him out.

Like dude wasn’t even trynna throw more punches and test that eye more. He shouldn’t been circling to DCs left and just keep jabbing and throwing bombs or setting him up better to connect with them rights

 

[The axe murderer]

UFC be like ...

"Megan Olivi will go down in history as the GREATEST OF ALL TIME backstage interviewer there is"

"the smaller, 25ft Octagon is without a doubt the GREATEST OF ALL TIME Octagon in the history of all Octagons"

"Daniel Cormier is not only one of the GREATEST OF ALL TIME combat sports athletes, but with his four fights in the UFC heavyweight division he is also one of the GREATEST OF ALL TIME heavyweights we have ever seen"

"Amanda Nunes is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME female fighter there is since she TKO'd the former GREATEST OF ALL TIME female fighter Ronda Rousey"

"Fox Sports was the GREATEST OF ALL TIME sports network until we reached a new television deal with the current GREATEST OF ALL TIME sports network ESPN"

 

[THEREALBRAND]

So did Wlad Klitschko. Would you rank him higher than Lennox Lewis?

Who are you putting over Stipe in terms of UFC heavyweights?

 

[Big Boss]

Who are you putting over Stipe in terms of UFC heavyweights?

yea Stipe is the GOAT UFC Heavyweight

 

[True Blue Moon]

That was a pretty clear 3-2 or even 4-1 Stipe. The only rounds you could argue for DC are by razor thin margins, while the rounds Stipe won he was way ahead on volume and damage. If Cormier showed up in better shape he coulda maybe stole that even with only 1 working eye, but he was low-key gassed from the 3rd on and spent too much time flattened against the fence for the 2nd half of the fight. Still better than basically any UFC heavyweight title fight but man. If Cormier could commit to a diet he could still be a 3 division world champ; nobody is stuffing or getting up from his takedowns at the weight he SHOULD have always been fighting at for his height and reach, which is 185.

For real, that’s probably his Achilles heel at the end of the day. He knows how to turn it on when it’s time but dude just lets himself go between fights. When he fukked his back up a couple years back he was looking like he weighed 3 bills sitting behind the commentator’s table.

It makes me mad when they show college clips and you see how athletic and cut breh looked as an NCAA wrestler. Of course that was youth, but you also know he wasn’t gorging himself with food back then

 

[Northern Son]

DC is an Olympic wrestler, and he got manhandled by Stipe. The guy is a solid grappler, his boxing is the best in the division, and he has a great gas tank for a heavyweight.

Jones has struggled with bigger fighters in his career, and those guys are less skilled than Stipe. It wouldn’t be an easy fight at all for Jones.

Other than Gus, which bigger fighters did he struggle with? He ran through Bonnar, Vera and O’Brien. Sure they’re lower level fighters but size didn't seem to have helped them at all. He struggled with Santos (MW) and Reyes more than anyone else, and to be honest I think that’s due to USADA.

Stipe’s boxing is the thing I imagine being a problem for him.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Who are you putting over Stipe in terms of UFC heavyweights?

He’s only had 7 HW championship fights and is 6-1. And in that only for 5 guys. Only one who would be consider a GOAT.

Now if he cleaned his division out and had over 10 fights I could agree with it. I may not like it but I could agree. This niccas a Ryan Bader ass niccas in a company with a bigger budget and more reach in the world

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I would like to see Stipe go through the rest of the top 5 and he can beat all of them then and only then can I concede and give this nicca “GOAT” status

But until then.... man fukk this dude and Dana can go to hell with this BS

 

[The axe murderer]

He’s only had 7 HW championship fights and is 6-1. And in that only for 5 guys. Only one who would be consider a GOAT.

Now if he cleaned his division out and had over 10 fights I could agree with it. I may not like it but I could agree. This niccas a Ryan Bader ass niccas in a company with a bigger budget and more reach in the world

Who in UFC HW got a better record tbh? I just don't see it.