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[NYChase718]

Big show debuted and came off as a screw up/goof in the corporation
Then hes getting bytched and slapped around by undertaker being his stooge
Wasnt the best of starts

 

[stro]

His weight was a problem in the last year of his WCW run too. The biggest thing everyone ignores in how WWE handled him was he literally didn't know how to put together matches. He was never actually trained in WCW. He was just being told what to do by veterans dragging him along and if not he was doing squash matches. It wasn't until like...2003 that he started learning how to actually put matches together himself.

There's also that outside of Andre, Vince has always booked big guys and monsters to put over smaller faces because he thinks big guys never lose their heat because of their size. Yet every dude that got booked as a dominant monster and then fed to whoever was the top guy of the period ended up usually never getting back to main events and in mid card purgatory the rest of their runs.

Vince's reputation for knowing how to book big men is literally based off of Andre's booking in the 70s/early 80s, which wasn't even Vince Jr. exclusive because he was booked the same in every territory and promotion around the world.

 

[satam55]

Looks like Big Show went on to win 4 more world titles after the Attitude era:







Did people give a fucc about him in the Ruthless Aggression & PG eras?

Up until a certain year Big Show was one of those guys who could always be plugged into a main event spot when needed like Jericho, Kane, etc.

I don’t think anyone ever actually wanted to see him with a belt and that was just based on how much credibility his character lost over the years. Way too many turns for no reason, stuck in random/pointless tag teams, Crying like a bytch

If dude could politic like Hogan or HHH he’d probably be top 5 all time.

WAIT, Jericho ended up just being a plug-in main eventer instead of a legit main eventer?

 

[Silkk]

WAIT, Jericho ended up just being a plug-in main eventer instead of a legit main eventer?

By plug-in, I mean a guy who could be champ at any point of the year if needed but would never close a wrestlemania/be the top guy.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Looking at early 96 Nitros. Flair owned Savage. Took his bytch and spent half of his money lavishly in his face. Even had Woman smack him in the face with his own money. Drove him unhinged and insane.

A couple of years before he put his dad in the figure four

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

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This is Hogan Superman booking at its WORST..

This muthafukka hardly sold nothing and put TWO different wrestlers in the figure four in a handicap match

I was swear I was just watching this and was about to make a thread about that atrocious Hoegan figure four.

“But he doesn’t have it locked in!”

 

[DaHNIC82]

Looking at early 96 Nitros. Flair owned Savage. Took his bytch and spent half of his money lavishly in his face. Even had Woman smack him in the face with his own money. Drove him unhinged and insane.

A couple of years before he put his dad in the figure four

Then Hogan and the NWO used Liz as a pass around and taunted Savage to his face through the whole fall... They played that video and Randy left the building in tears. That shyt was sad

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Then Hogan and the NWO used Liz as a pass around and taunted Savage to his face through the whole fall... They played that video and Randy left the building in tears. That shyt was sad

He wanted to fight Hoegan for real after retirement for revenge over all the kayfabe Ls he took from him.

 

[R=G]

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

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This is Hogan Superman booking at its WORST..

This muthafukka hardly sold nothing and put TWO different wrestlers in the figure four in a handicap match

Dude treated the beatdown like they were tickles. fukking Hogan

 

[NYChase718]

Remember Hoegan was laid out in the ring one time on nitro i think and macho man gave him the flying elbow drop...to wake him up

 

[Love Sosa]

Brehs is it safe to say that Raw had way more star power than Smackdown did during the Ruthless Aggression era?

I checked out of wrestling by the time the WWF changed their name to WWE, so I missed the Ruthless Aggression era. But watching WWE content on YouTube & WWE Network the last few months or so, it's very obvious to me that Raw had more stars than Smackdown. Survivor Series 2002 was good example of this. I don't think Smackdown had enough main event stars to do that 6-man elimination chamber match. Another example is most of the ruthless aggression era PPVs that weren't brand exclusive, it seems like the primary main event is usually always for the Raw world title, while the Smackdown world title is usually the secondary main event.

Is that how y'all felt when Ruthless Aggression era was going on?

Na, Smackdown for a while was definitely the A show to us back then. You had Angle, Vince, Cena, Hogan, Taker, Benoit, Eddie, etc. just watch Mania XIX. Nobody gave a fukk about HHH/Booker. I’m pretty sure Smackdown was even getting better ratings back then. Smackdown didn’t become the b show really until the JBL era kicked in and Cena/Batista came into their own.

 

[FakeNews]

I think the Big Show is a cat that has suffered from bad booking for most of his career. In his final WCW years from what remember he kept going back and forth from WCW to NWO to WCW to NWO which was wack...

Na, Smackdown for a while was definitely the A show to us back then. You had Angle, Vince, Cena, Hogan, Taker, Benoit, Eddie, etc. just watch Mania XIX. Nobody gave a fukk about HHH/Booker. I’m pretty sure Smackdown was even getting better ratings back then. Smackdown didn’t become the b show really until the JBL era kicked in and Cena/Batista came into their own.

Was about to come in here to say this Smackdown from like mid-late 2002 until the JBL era maybe slightly before that was the better show to me. Couldn't stand Raw didn't care for HHH or Evolution

 

[satam55]

Its not talked about, But WWE really dropped the ball on Big Show after his debut.

was a full on comedy act after a year

By the end of the year he got a main event push & even held the WWF title for a couple months.

Nobody gave a fukk about him then

No one gave a fukk about him in WCW in 1998 either

But they did when he debuted and threw Austin through the cage. Sit ya clown ass down

Looks like Big Show went on to win 4 more world titles after the Attitude era:







Did people give a fucc about him in the Ruthless Aggression & PG eras?

Up until a certain year Big Show was one of those guys who could always be plugged into a main event spot when needed like Jericho, Kane, etc.

I don’t think anyone ever actually wanted to see him with a belt and that was just based on how much credibility his character lost over the years. Way too many turns for no reason, stuck in random/pointless tag teams, Crying like a bytch

If dude could politic like Hogan or HHH he’d probably be top 5 all time.

JR talks about it a lot, they basically over exposed Big Show. You're not supposed to see a Giant every week.

That and his weight...which I never understood, they'd sign people for their height and their obesity and get at the idea of them gaining weight or easily getting injured while making them work 300+ days a year.

Once Big Show weight became a problem after his debut Vince felt

Big wrestlers like that have boring matches.. simple as that

The giant shyt was like some 60s,70s,80s carny type shyt

Wrestling fans in the 90s and onwards wanted epic matches, t*ts n ass, comedy etc

Watching a 7 footer slowly walk around a ring and squash people gets kinda boring after a couple times you see it..

Big show was good tho, he was a very good wrestler for his size.. just think he was born in the wrong era

Big show debuted and came off as a screw up/goof in the corporation
Then hes getting bytched and slapped around by undertaker being his stooge
Wasnt the best of starts

His weight was a problem in the last year of his WCW run too. The biggest thing everyone ignores in how WWE handled him was he literally didn't know how to put together matches. He was never actually trained in WCW. He was just being told what to do by veterans dragging him along and if not he was doing squash matches. It wasn't until like...2003 that he started learning how to actually put matches together himself.

There's also that outside of Andre, Vince has always booked big guys and monsters to put over smaller faces because he thinks big guys never lose their heat because of their size. Yet every dude that got booked as a dominant monster and then fed to whoever was the top guy of the period ended up usually never getting back to main events and in mid card purgatory the rest of their runs.

Vince's reputation for knowing how to book big men is literally based off of Andre's booking in the 70s/early 80s, which wasn't even Vince Jr. exclusive because he was booked the same in every territory and promotion around the world.

I think the Big Show is a cat that has suffered from bad booking for most of his career. In his final WCW years from what remember he kept going back and forth from WCW to NWO to WCW to NWO which was wack...

According to this clip The Big Show along with Mark Henry got sent down to Ohio Valley Wrestling (Skip to the 12:14 mark):





Mark Henry doesn't surprise me because he wasn't appearing on Television when I was watching during the end of the Attitude era/transition to Ruthless Aggression era, but when was Big Show sent down?

 

[stro]

October 2000-January 2001, returned to the main roster at the Rumble in 2001.