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Early ‘97 WCW is brutal and I actually gave up watching. NWO is the only thing remotely interesting and everything else is just rammed into the show and all over the place.
 

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I'd love to see Cornette's OVW glorydays on the Network. Damaja, Albright, Punk, Burchill all appeared solid from the short clips i'd seen online
 

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Watching Wrestlemania X8 aka Nu MetalMania w/performances by Saliva and Drowning pool :mjlol:

Crazy how this was 17 years ago :flabbynsick:

Of the main event contestants, One still wrestles part time and is the booker man, and other is the geezer ace of the upstart competitor, and is also a rollin' stone, wherever he lays his hat is his home ...
 

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To this day I'm amazed that the RNRs were heart throbs. Dude looked like they'd spend all their time in liquor store parking lots making passes at high school girls.

Especially Ricky Morton... looked like a 40-year-old uncle that was having midlife crisis so he dressed like a teenager...
 

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Watched the ep of WCW last night where Ole lays Tully the fukk out and slaps the piss out of JJ :banderas::banderas::banderas:
 

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:whew::whew::whew:

WWE Hidden Gems is back again this week – and with a bang. We can exclusively confirm two WWE Hidden Gems additions set to arrive on WWE Network tomorrow and they come from Jim Crockett Promotions. More specifically, they appear to be complete or near complete shows from the Great American Bash 1986 tour!

Both uploads set to arrive on the 4th of July, a patriotic holiday in the United States, near three hours in run time. One show will be the Charlotte destination headlined by Ric Flair vs. Ricky Morton, while the other will be a Greensboro stop headlined by Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes. We can’t confirm whether or not the shows are actually complete but judging by the run time, at the very least the bulk of the shows will be available.

Below is the synopsis for the Charlotte show:
07/05/1986 – GAB 1986 Charlotte [Duration: 02:53:27]
Ric Flair puts the World Heavyweight Championship on the line against Ricky Morton in a Steel Cage Match as the Bash rolls into Charlotte.
Below is the match listing for the Charlotte show courtesy of Cagematch:
  1. NWA World Junior Heavyweight Title: Denny Brown vs. Steve Regal.
  2. Robert Gibson vs. Black Bart.
  3. The Andersons vs. Sam Houston and Nelson Royal.
  4. Bunkhouse Match: Manny Fernandez vs. Baron von Raschke.
  5. Indian Strap Match: Jimmy Garvin vs. Wahoo McDaniel.
  6. Boxing Match: Ronnie Garvin vs. Tully Blanchard.
  7. Double Russian Chain Match: The Road Warriors vs. The Russians.
  8. Hair vs. Hair: Jimmy Valiant vs. Shaska Whatley.
  9. Steel Cage: Dusty Rhodes, Magnum TA, and Baby Doll vs. The Midnight Express and Jim Cornette.
  10. NWA World Heavyweight Championship Steel Cage: Ric Flair vs. Ricky Morton.

Below is the synopsis for the Greensboro show:
07/26/1986 – GAB 1986 Greensboro [Duration: 02:41:09]
The World Heavyweight Championship hangs in the balance as WWE Hall of Famers clash inside a steel cage when Ric Flair faces Dusty Rhodes.
Below is the match listing for the Greensboro show courtesy of Cagematch:
  1. Sam Houston vs. Steve Regal.
  2. Denny Brown and The Italian Stallion vs. Black Bart and Konga the Barbarian.
  3. Loaded Glove On A Pole: Manny Fernandez vs. Baron von Raschke.
  4. Indian Strap Match: Jimmy Garvin vs. Wahoo McDaniel.
  5. Taped Fist: Ronnie Garvin vs. Tully Blanchard.
  6. The Andersons vs. The Rock n Roll Express.
  7. Hair vs. Hair: Jimmy Valiant vs. Paul Jones.
  8. NWA United States Heavyweight Championship: Magnum TA vs. Nikita Koloff.
  9. Steel Cage: Baby Doll and The Road Warriors vs. Jim Cornette and The Midnight Express.
  10. NWA World Heavyweight Championship Steel Cage: Dusty Rhodes vs. Ric Flair.

All those gimmick matches look like a Russo Nitro (first hour of Nitro)
 

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May 6th, 1996 Nitro

Malenko doing excellent work against Jushin Liger

Macho Man slapping that fukking ref for pushing him:laugh:

The comical fukkERY at the end with Sting and Luger...lol
 

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Put on the last Raw before Summerslam 2001 last night for some reason. The amount of people still around and in prominent roles 18 years later :why:

Paul Heyman: New creative head of Raw in 2019
Chris Jericho: Top star of AEW
JR: Voice of AEW
Stephanie McMahon: Still occasionally an on screen character, was a main character up until 2-3 years ago
William Regal: HHH's right hand man basically the second in command for the entire developmental system, on screen character for NXT
The Undertaker: Occasional on screen character, apparently to be featured more often in 2019
Kurt Angle: Regular on screen character until 3 months ago
RVD: Current talent for TNA
Rhyno: Current talent for TNA, just coming off an inexplicable 4 year WWE run
Tommy Dreamer: Current freelance talent for TNA, head of his own promotion, worked MLW and AEW this year as well
Jeff Hardy: Injured but current WWE talent
Lance Storm: Helping with TNA creative
Dudley Boyz: Bubba is headish of ROH creative, D-Von a high ranking backstage official for WWE
Michael Cole: Voice of WWE
Shane Helms: Has worked on screen and behind the scenes with TNA and ROH recently, currently an agent for WWE
Shane McMahon: All over Raw and Smackdown, currently feuding with seemingly the entire face roster
Charles Robinson: Still a WWE ref
Mike Chioda: Still a WWE ref


The show opens with 20+ minutes of Austin talking and brow beating various members of The Alliance. The first match isn't until 25 minutes in (which doesn't include the commercial time, so really closer to 30 minutes in) and was under 3 minutes long. Chris Jericho has a promo with Steph where literally all he does is make fun of her for getting a boob job for 10 minutes with the most childish and immature shyt and the crowd eats it up. This is also the show where Rock calls Shane both a p*ssy and a motherfukker and neither are censored :pachaha:To build for Taker/Kane vs Kanyon/DDP in a cage, Taker/Kane absolutely demolished Palumbo and O'Haire in a cage, en route to doing exactly the same thing to Kanyon/DDP at Summerslam. Austin has multiple backstage segments where a member of the Alliance comes to him for motivation and he doesn't know who they are.

There are 7 matches on the show for a total of 23 minutes and 18 seconds of in ring action. The Alliance went 2-5, one match being Test vs Spike and the other Rhyno/Booker vs Rock/Jericho that needed outside interference from Shane and Stephanie to win. Booker T is basically called a retard who doesn't know basic math. He's the WCW Champion and headlining Summerslam against the Rock in 6 days.


It's really baffling how poorly the Alliance guys are booked outside of Rhyno and RVD. Even Booker is treated as a complete joke and is constantly dunked on and portrayed as the dumbest mother fukker around. RVD came off like a geek, too, as Kurt dominated him in a hardcore match which had run ins from Raven/Dreamer/Awesome and Kurt beat all of their asses too, then let Jeff Hardy pin RVD to win the Hardcore title while he had Dreamer in an ankle lock.

It's baffling that Vince thought it could possibly be good for business to constantly bury half the roster every week. What isn't baffling is how and why Vince got so complacent with putting no effort into his product. The reactions shyt like Jericho saying "boobies" got dwarfs anything you've heard on WWE TV outside of Bryan's biggest reactions at his hottest in the past 15 years. For all the nonsensical booking and Alliance guys looking like absolute trash, the crowd is still hot as fukk for everything (except X-Pac :pachaha:) By the time the crowds stopped reacting Vince was already deep into the groove of putting the most minimal of effort and still being rewarded for it and it was too late to change his ways.

From a logical booking stand point, WCW 2000 might be booked better than the Invasion, tbh. There is absolutely ZERO foresight or long term planning or thoughts that went into it. If you've been reading the Observer Rewind things on Wreddit, you'll see that plans changed every single week for months until they just said fukk it and hot shot the Invasion without pre-planning or any ideas of where it would go, Vince would decide he didn't like half the WCW guys and sent them to developmental, then decided there weren't enough WCW guys and no stars, so you got all the turns of WWF guys, no thought of what would become of all these guys they buried on TV for months after the angle was over, no plans of where the angle was heading or how it would end. Remember they didn't even have the rights to use the ECW name and logo and Vince said :yeshrug:and used them anyway? :mjlol:

This whole thing is so half assed, so poorly thought out (in that it wasn't thought out at all), you can trace all of the problems with WWE directly to this angle and period.
 

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A quick addendum to the Invasion stuff:

At the end of it, the only guys actually brought in post WCW/ECW going under to still be on Raw/SD and not just weekend shows or off TV entirely: Booker, RVD, Lance Storm, Hurricane. Everyone else in the Alliance were already WWF talent. Most of the WCW guys got banished to Heat/Jakked right after Summerslam or in the next 2 weeks, meaning Palumbo/O'Haire, DDP, Kanyon, Mike Awesome, etc were all off TV for 3 months of the angle. Anyone with any name from the WCW crew, basically.

Also I didn't realize that they not only turned WCW as a company heel in ATLANTA, but also had WWF win the war in...The Greensboro Coliseum. The pettiness of this company :hhh:
 

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Put on the last Raw before Summerslam 2001 last night for some reason. The amount of people still around and in prominent roles 18 years later :why:

Paul Heyman: New creative head of Raw in 2019
Chris Jericho: Top star of AEW
JR: Voice of AEW
Stephanie McMahon: Still occasionally an on screen character, was a main character up until 2-3 years ago
William Regal: HHH's right hand man basically the second in command for the entire developmental system, on screen character for NXT
The Undertaker: Occasional on screen character, apparently to be featured more often in 2019
Kurt Angle: Regular on screen character until 3 months ago
RVD: Current talent for TNA
Rhyno: Current talent for TNA, just coming off an inexplicable 4 year WWE run
Tommy Dreamer: Current freelance talent for TNA, head of his own promotion, worked MLW and AEW this year as well
Jeff Hardy: Injured but current WWE talent
Lance Storm: Helping with TNA creative
Dudley Boyz: Bubba is headish of ROH creative, D-Von a high ranking backstage official for WWE
Michael Cole: Voice of WWE
Shane Helms: Has worked on screen and behind the scenes with TNA and ROH recently, currently an agent for WWE
Shane McMahon: All over Raw and Smackdown, currently feuding with seemingly the entire face roster
Charles Robinson: Still a WWE ref
Mike Chioda: Still a WWE ref


The show opens with 20+ minutes of Austin talking and brow beating various members of The Alliance. The first match isn't until 25 minutes in (which doesn't include the commercial time, so really closer to 30 minutes in) and was under 3 minutes long. Chris Jericho has a promo with Steph where literally all he does is make fun of her for getting a boob job for 10 minutes with the most childish and immature shyt and the crowd eats it up. This is also the show where Rock calls Shane both a p*ssy and a motherfukker and neither are censored :pachaha:To build for Taker/Kane vs Kanyon/DDP in a cage, Taker/Kane absolutely demolished Palumbo and O'Haire in a cage, en route to doing exactly the same thing to Kanyon/DDP at Summerslam. Austin has multiple backstage segments where a member of the Alliance comes to him for motivation and he doesn't know who they are.

There are 7 matches on the show for a total of 23 minutes and 18 seconds of in ring action. The Alliance went 2-5, one match being Test vs Spike and the other Rhyno/Booker vs Rock/Jericho that needed outside interference from Shane and Stephanie to win. Booker T is basically called a retard who doesn't know basic math. He's the WCW Champion and headlining Summerslam against the Rock in 6 days.


It's really baffling how poorly the Alliance guys are booked outside of Rhyno and RVD. Even Booker is treated as a complete joke and is constantly dunked on and portrayed as the dumbest mother fukker around. RVD came off like a geek, too, as Kurt dominated him in a hardcore match which had run ins from Raven/Dreamer/Awesome and Kurt beat all of their asses too, then let Jeff Hardy pin RVD to win the Hardcore title while he had Dreamer in an ankle lock.

It's baffling that Vince thought it could possibly be good for business to constantly bury half the roster every week. What isn't baffling is how and why Vince got so complacent with putting no effort into his product. The reactions shyt like Jericho saying "boobies" got dwarfs anything you've heard on WWE TV outside of Bryan's biggest reactions at his hottest in the past 15 years. For all the nonsensical booking and Alliance guys looking like absolute trash, the crowd is still hot as fukk for everything (except X-Pac :pachaha:) By the time the crowds stopped reacting Vince was already deep into the groove of putting the most minimal of effort and still being rewarded for it and it was too late to change his ways.

From a logical booking stand point, WCW 2000 might be booked better than the Invasion, tbh. There is absolutely ZERO foresight or long term planning or thoughts that went into it. If you've been reading the Observer Rewind things on Wreddit, you'll see that plans changed every single week for months until they just said fukk it and hot shot the Invasion without pre-planning or any ideas of where it would go, Vince would decide he didn't like half the WCW guys and sent them to developmental, then decided there weren't enough WCW guys and no stars, so you got all the turns of WWF guys, no thought of what would become of all these guys they buried on TV for months after the angle was over, no plans of where the angle was heading or how it would end. Remember they didn't even have the rights to use the ECW name and logo and Vince said :yeshrug:and used them anyway? :mjlol:

This whole thing is so half assed, so poorly thought out (in that it wasn't thought out at all), you can trace all of the problems with WWE directly to this angle and period.

Basically when they truly hooked me in as a fan, wrestling immediately had its biggest fall off, I'm Rodney Dangerfield status :mjcry:

Has there ever been a really thorough, accurate post mortem on the Invasion on YouTube?
 
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