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Joey Styles, who regularly shyt on WWF and WCW announcers for making shytty jokes and not knowing the names of moves, starts the debut of Psychosis and Rey Jr. with a Taco Bell joke, then proceeds to not know the name of any of the moves they do, making up names that aren't even accurate. :mjlol:
 

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Watched Havoc 94 for the first time... pretty bad show saved by Hogan vs Flair. On ppaper it looked pretty good but so many matches were trash.

Havoc 2000 was decent.
 

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Man all those Eddie/Benoit/Malenko/Scorp/Jericho/Rey/Juvi/Psychosis matches in ECW is living proof that just telling guys to go out and do whatever they want for 30 minutes isn't a good idea. Just straight exhibition fukkery of just doing moves and chain wrestling. I'm not even on the "they need to tell a story" shyt here, I'm talking they literally would just fukk around and hit each other with moves for a half hour with no rhyme or reason, no build to anything in the finish, no stories being told even over 10 matches. Absolute wankery to the point where those same guys were having better 5 minute matches on Nitro/Thunder/Saturday Night because there was some semblance of a story or angle somewhere in there.

The only time this really worked out was the RVD/Sabu series in 1996, because they're both fukking crazy and came up with crazy shyt that nowhere else would let them do. It's pretty amazing all this talent blew through ECW, they had the freedom to do whatever, yet they had better matches on Saturday morning TV shows while limited and handicapped.
 

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So, I've now seen every ECW show up through Barely Legal.

By the time they got their PPV, they were already spinning their wheels and redoing angles/gimmicks. Obviously they planned on doing the PPV earlier, because they went a full year of doing the Taz/Sabu build without any response from Sabu or Paul E. Literally a full year of Taz making Sabu look like a fukking bytch with no explanation whatsoever :mjlol:. Then it finally gets explained that Paul E., Taz, and Sabu made a deal when Paul E. brought Sabu back at November To Remember 1995 that they'd all stay away from each other and never have to work together, as Taz was super pissed about Sabu picking Japan over ECW and being brought back. But Taz broke his word and Paul E./Sabu went an entire year before responding :gucci:. Then Paul E. finally tells the story, Taz SHEWTS and reveals that he and Sabu are going to be booked as the main event of a big show in the first part of the next year, scooping Paul's PPV announcement...that doesn't actually come for another 2 months, with 4 months left before the show. So for the next 4 months every week has a pull apart brawl between them. Every week. Of course by the time the match comes around, Taz has a blown out shoulder, Sabu gets his nose broken and a concussion about a minute in, and it doesn't come close to living up to the hype. And then they do a double turn after the match:beli:

For a few months Taz's whole gimmick was just injuring people, I guess waiting for Sabu to stop him or something, but then that becomes Shane Douglas' gimmick after he breakts Pitbull 1's neck. They redo an angle with Stevie and Raven about 6 times in every market they ran in, but showed them all on TV so...they just repeated the same angle over and over. Terry Funk's "one last run" angle for the PPV is about the 4th time ECW has run that angle since 1993. That's combined with "Tommy only has one man left to call" angle that they did 3 times in 2 years. The tag division is booked exactly the same since sometime in 1994: A new team comes in, dominates everyone, former top heel team becomes popular babyfaces, new team comes in, repeat. This happened with PE, then the Gangsters, then The Eliminators, then RVD/Sabu, then Dudleys, and so on.

In 1995, one of Sandman's big angles was after winning the ECW Championship, he decided he actually did like being champion and now cared about winning more than just beating people up, going on a quest to get his title back. This is in part what led to his face turn. Shane has the same angle but with the TV title throughout 1996 and 1997, along with Taz's angle. They do a RVD won't respect Sabu/anyone else gimmick, then have RVD showing respect...then right before the PPV go back to RVD is this guy who won't shake anyone's hand thing. The Shane vs Pittbulls angle has what feels like 5 different endings but keeps going for a dreadfully boring PPV match that goes nowhere.


Lol at them actually mopping the fukking floor before putting that trash bingo hall on PPV. First time in the entire 4 years of the promotion that the floor wasn't completely disgusting and trashed. Idk fukk ECW, I'm def going to make a Raven/Dreamer thread once Raven makes his exit. That angle fukking suuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.
 

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Also wtf the music is so random on ECW. Most guys have 3 different songs that get dubbed in, sometimes even on the same show. Taz has a generic buttrock, some Alice In Chains sounding song, a bootleg of War Machine, and what sounds like a full on War Machine instrumental, and at least once in a great while his WWE music will get used. Sometimes his entrance is to one and victory music is another.

Shane Douglas also has 3 entirely different ones, two that sound absolutely nothing like the Perfect Strangers bootleg also used for WCW shows. Sabu sometimes has random thrashy shyt. RVD seems to have a different song every show. Dreamer has his Man in the Box bootleg used in WWE, but once in a while he has a completely different song even into 1997. Sandman has at least 2 different ones. New Jack/Gangstas had 3 different ones for a period. Terry Funk has a different one every time he comes back. In Jericho's ECW run, he has two different songs and at least one show dubs in his original WWE theme like they do on WCW shows. Rey gets his WCW theme dubbed in. The Eliminators sometimes have the ECW theme song (not the one used from Barely Legal on, but the original one, and I don't know if it's dubbed to begin with or not), sometimes generic rock song.

This goes for basically everyone at one point or another.
 

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Omg the swerve for the main event of Living Dangerously 1998 :russ::russ::russ::russ::russ::russ::russ:

So Sunny starts working ECW, and within a few weeks she turns on Skip. There's a dream tag team partner match for the PPV where Lance Storm and Chris Candido will each get to pick a dream partner. Sunny knows who Lance's partner will be, but randomly won't tell Chris and slaps him. The PPV comes and Sunny reveals herself to be Lance's partner, Joey screams about how genius it is because Chris won't hit Sunny, and won't let Shane hit her either. A few minutes into the match, Lance is holding Chris so Sunny can hit him with a cookie sheet. However, the timing gets so fukked up that Chris and Lance are no longer even touching each other, they're just standing around, and Sunny keeps pantomiming that she's going to hit Chris, only to SWERVE THE WORLD and hit Lance. Except she missed him. And then fell in the hole left from the Bam Bam/Taz match. :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

Lance then says he's going to give Chris head, which brings Al Snow out, who pins Shane in like 90 seconds. :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

It's one of the most amazingly botched sequences I might have ever seen. Would love for there to be a cam on Paul E. flipping his shyt during things like that. I think contemporary feelings from Meltzer and his readers had the ECW PPVs rated way higher than the WCW/WWF PPVs, but the first 4 shyt the bed either for the whole show (like Hardcore Heaven 1997) or in key matches/angles. These Sabu/Sandman matches are absolute trainwrecks :russ:. Every PPV match with Shane Douglas has been dreadful. Taz gets exposed hard when in matches that go more than 5 minutes.
 

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Arachnaman wtf :what::what::what::dahell: :mjlol:

91 WCW :scust:
 
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