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- Smith Hart revealed on Twitter that The Rock’s half-brother Curtis Bowles-Johnson is in the process of joining the Hart Brothers Wrestling School in Canada. Curtis is Rocky Johnson’s son from his first marriage and has been a successful businessman in Toronto. Below is a photo of Curtis:



The Rock’s Half-Brother Training with Hart Family, More Training for Natalya, JoJo Announces - Gerweck.net
 

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Just read on another forum that on the last Wrestler Observer podcast Da Meltz said he got an email from The Rock asking "who the fukk is Austin Idol? Who is this guy? He's one of the best promos I've ever seen" after watching some :bow: Memphis wrestling while on his break from taping a film

:salute: Rocky for watching Memphis wrestling. If he got to see that GOAT Hair vs Hair Cage Match between Idol and Lawler...:whew: :whew: :whew:

He wrestled for USWA for a bit. I think it's odd he wouldn't know who Austin Idol is. Austin Idol is awesome though. He should've made it to NWA/WWF in the mid/late 80s.
 

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In the segment-by-segment, the show opened at 1.02 which, like the past few weeks, seems like the people watching COPS hadn’t turned the channel off right away. Kurt Angle vs. Rockstar Spud lost 112,000 viewers. The Madison Rayne in-ring with The Beautiful People gained 74,000 viewers. Kenny King vs. Bobby Lashley gained 13,000 viewers. The Austin Aries vs. MVP match at 10 p.m., usually the biggest gaining segment on the show, lost 149,000 viewers. Bobby Roode & James Storm vs. Bully Ray & Gunner lost 111,000 viewers. Angelina Love & Velvet Sky vs. Rayne & Gail Kim lost 61,000 viewers. And Magnus vs. Abyss lost 62,000 viewers doing one of the worst main event ratings in history.


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There was a slight mistake on some of the recent "Fantasy Match-Up" toy set featuring Brock Lesnar (who's picture on the package looks heavily airbrushed...seriously he looks like Mark Hamill on the Star Wars Chrsitmas Special after his car wreck) and Batista....wait...

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:what: Batista?
 
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There was a slight mistake on some of the recent "Fantasy Match-Up" toy set featuring Brock Lesnar (who's picture on the package looks heavily airbrushed...seriously he looks like Mark Hamill on the Star Wars Chrsitmas Special after his car wreck) and Batista....wait...

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:what: Batista?

looks like a decaying Dolph Lundgren :deadmanny:
 

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In the segment-by-segment, the show opened at 1.02 which, like the past few weeks, seems like the people watching COPS hadn’t turned the channel off right away. Kurt Angle vs. Rockstar Spud lost 112,000 viewers. The Madison Rayne in-ring with The Beautiful People gained 74,000 viewers. Kenny King vs. Bobby Lashley gained 13,000 viewers. The Austin Aries vs. MVP match at 10 p.m., usually the biggest gaining segment on the show, lost 149,000 viewers. Bobby Roode & James Storm vs. Bully Ray & Gunner lost 111,000 viewers. Angelina Love & Velvet Sky vs. Rayne & Gail Kim lost 61,000 viewers. And Magnus vs. Abyss lost 62,000 viewers doing one of the worst main event ratings in history.


Lol

good lord

1.02 is what, a million viewers?

By the end of their show, their COMBINED efforts lost a combined 408,000 people who CHOSE to watch their product

that is fukking HORRIBLE.
 

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There was a slight mistake on some of the recent "Fantasy Match-Up" toy set featuring Brock Lesnar (who's picture on the package looks heavily airbrushed...seriously he looks like Mark Hamill on the Star Wars Chrsitmas Special after his car wreck) and Batista....wait...

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:what: Batista?

What the fukk @ Batista :laff:
 

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I’m told that there is a change in plans regarding breaking up The Shield. I take that to mean the breakup plans from earlier this year that were considered delayed for a while because of the feeling they were getting over strong as a face trio, are not even being talked about for any time soon. Originally the break-up was going to have already happened.


WWE has revamped other plans going forward. As of right now, Orton is no longer being pushed to the merchandise side as a top babyface for down the line, which seems to mean a post-Mania turn is no longer in the short-term cards. The WWE right now is looking at, in order, the top four singles babyfaces for down the line, in order, being Cena, Bryan, Cesaro and Sheamus (that was the plan as of a little more than a week ago, I’ve been sensing a Sheamus turn for some time and the nature of his U.S. title win certainly seemed like that was the direction they were going). The last time an internal list was made, Orton, Batista and Reigns were near the top, right behind Cena and Bryan, with Sheamus as the big names planned as the top faces for down the line. What that would seem to mean is they are going forward now with The Shield as a group based on several months out projections (what they recommend to those they do business with when it comes to marketing is based on creating things now that won’t hit the marketplace for months) as opposed to a Reigns singles push, and they are bullish on Cesaro as a babyface within a few months. Given that Cesaro vs. Lesnar seems obvious when it’s time for Cesaro to make the split from Heyman, I could see the idea of a SummerSlam where Reigns goes over HHH and Cesaro goes over Lesnar as ways to elevate them to top babyface status. Keep in mind when you project months out, they are moving targets and it changes monthly.


Right now the four retired wrestlers they are pushing, in order, are Hogan, Undertaker, Austin and Warrior. Warrior was higher on the priority list a few weeks ago, but that’s understandable. However, for the month of April, more people purchased Warrior merchandise on the Internet than anyone else, including Cena. The Internet merchandise numbers were Warrior first, followed by Cena, Punk, Bryan, The Wyatts, The Shield, Evolution and Hogan. At the arenas, Cena is so far above everyone else, as noted last week, that it’s not even close. The latest best sellers at the arenas have been Cena, Bryan, Orton, Warrior, RVD, Lesnar, Wyatts, Batista and Sin Cara has broken into the No. 9 spot. It’s notable that past Cena, Bryan and Orton, everyone on the list is new as far as character merchandising, except Sin Cara. RVD is there for his return and much higher than he should be given his push. Warrior is about the unique circumstances of his return and his death and it’s clearly temporary. Lesnar is up there because somebody’s client conquered the streak. Batista on the list is just plain hilarious, and shows (as do others) the difference between the vocal crowd that drowns people out on TV and the money spending consumers. Sin Cara on the list right now may be just a fluke of scheduling, since they ran some successful events in Texas over the past few weeks, where the old Mistico was super strong. I doubt he’ll stay on, but the key is that even with shows in some border markets that drew well, Mysterio did not crack the top ten, which speaks of an out of sight, out of mind deal.


The stock closed at press time on 5/6 at $18.12 per share, bringing the market capitalization to $1.36 billion. I expect the next real movement up or down is based on the television rights deal. If you think they will beat double, then now isn’t the time to sell. If you don’t think they can double TV rights, now would be a very good time to sell. If they don’t beat double, I’d expect a drop because the inflated price, which actually right now is no longer that inflated, was based on the idea of tripling TV rights and the idea of 3.5 million network subscribers at the end of 2015.


A group called Shareholders Foundation Inc., claimed they were going to do an investigation over potential securities law violations by WWE based on certain things announced by directors and company officers regarding financial statements. An attempt to find out what in specific they are looking at went unanswered. WWE issued a statement claiming there was no substance or merit to the claim.


WWE just purchased some old 8mm and Super 8 footage from the 70s and early shot by George Pantas from matches in Norfolk and Hampton, VA. This was the old house show footage used in the great Jim Crockett Promotions documentary put out by Michael Elliot that won video of the year, since WWE owns what is left of the JCP collection (JCP sold its video library to Turner Home Entertainment in 1988, which then sold it to WWE in 2001). Pantas noted selling his collection after negotiations with Ben Brown, who is in charge of archival footage for WWE, Paul Levesque and other execs. I don’t know how extensive the footage is as far as complete matches go, but at least for round table discussions, it has at least parts of main events with tons of the biggest names of the 70s in their primes that in many cases wouldn’t be in any other collection the company owns.
 

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Levesque has also paid good money for some old posters and memorabilia from collectors that featured their historical legends (essentially people in their Hall of Fame, or someone like Lou Thesz, who WWE purchased items from Charlie Thesz, Lou’s widow, and eventually would be expected to put Lou in their Hall of Fame which is really beyond a joke that he’s not in already).


There is at least some talk of giving Ric Flair a regular role on television after his quarter hour once again popped the biggest rating on the show last week, on a show that drew a big number during a week nobody was expecting a big number.


Jericho was also called this past week about coming back. He had too many schedule commitments on other projects to come back at this time. He did an interview with Digital Spy praising the booking of Lesnar beating Undertaker. “I loved it. I thought it was great. It was a legitimate shock. It got everyone talking. I think the right guy got it if you’re going from a credibility standpoint, and if you’re going from a believability standpoint. As much as people and fans and journalists want to believe that’s not the case, I’m not sure if Undertaker has too many matches left in him. Maybe he doesn’t want to wrestle again. Maybe he knew that he couldn’t take any more. It’s a big, physical task to wrestle as it is, and once a year is hard. I wouldn’t want to come and wrestle just once a year. That’s even harder than wrestling 200 times a year, because your body’s not used to it. And the older you get, the harder it gets, the more aches and pains kick in. Maybe the Undertaker decided that `I don’t want to do this anymore.’ And much to the fans chagrin, who wish that we would wrestle until the day we die at 90 years old and explode into a puff of dust in the ring, sometimes you’ve got to make that decision if the time was now, Brock was the right guy for that day, and I thought it was amazing. And I would have hated it–hated it–if Undertaker would have retired without losing. I think that would have been a horrible way to go. I’m really happy that he lost the streak.”


The Jim Ross interview with Michaels about the Undertaker’s streak was notable more for what wasn’t said. Michaels, who is friends with Undertaker and does know pretty much how everything went down, was so nervous, hemming and hawing and stammering when the subject was brought up, clearly not being comfortable discussing the subject and what he knew. He tried to play it down by saying he doesn’t think about wrestling, let’s the smart guys worry about things like that, and it wasn’t his business. He did say the decision for Undertaker to lose went down about four hours before match time. I think it was a little earlier because I heard it was at 1 p.m. that afternoon when Undertaker was told by Vince that the finish was changing and nobody was supposed to know about it except for he and Lesnar and a handful of others who needed to know, but it would be correct to say the decision went down the day of the show in the afternoon. Michaels, who was watching in Gorilla, noted he was as surprised as anyone when the match ended. Vince felt it could be Undertaker’s last match, and if he didn’t lose now, there was no guarantee there would be another match. According to two people who know Undertaker, one said Undertaker had no real issue with it and was fine with it when Vince made the call. Another said Vince had to talk him into it, but either way the end result was the same.
 

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There were a number of developmental cuts over the past week just as a number of people were coming in to get started. The five cuts were: 1. Martin Harris, who wrestled under the name Danny Burch. He’s 32, and was from London, England. He wrestled as Martin Stone in England. He’d been used strictly as enhancement talent on television and didn’t have anything special when it came to size or look. His work was fine, but not spectacular and the emphasis in developmental is on youth. He had knee surgery and the feeling we got from someone there is they believe he was given up on at that point; 2. Joel Pettyfer, 27, from Exeter, England. His NXT name was Oliver Grey. He and Adrian Neville were the first NXT tag team champions. He tore his ACL right after he got the titles, and had just come back from reconstructive surgery and had been used since his return as an enhancement guy. You could tell once he came back from knee surgery, which was just recently, that they had long interest in him since he was just getting squashed; 3. Barri Griffiths, 32, from Wales, the huge bodybuilder known as Mason Ryan. This was the biggest surprise. He was on the main roster in 2011 and 2012, as part of C.M. Punk’s New Nexus. He was rushed onto the main roster before he was ready because of how big he was, and then sent back to developmental. He’d dropped weight, although still huge, and gotten better, but I was told they felt he wasn’t improving at a fast enough rate. His big problem is that his selling looked really bad and he’d been around long enough that he should have gotten past that. Vince loved the way he looked, so brought him up way too fast even though warned it was too soon and they were making the same mistake they’ve made over and over (we’ll call it the Chris Masters mistake). The problem is he couldn’t sell in a manner that worked. It was noted that it must have taken a lot to cut someone who looked like that, plus they liked the idea of having a superstar babyface from Wales. It really shows the difference in mentality as a guy who looked like that would have been promoted as a major star in the 80s. I was told he had a great attitude, always worked hard and tried hard to do whatever they asked. He had no ego, as I recall when he first arrived and they rushed the FCW title on him, he questioned it, noting that guys were so much more advanced than he was. The curse of being a huge bodybuilder like he is or Ezekiel Jackson or Bobby Lashley is that when the right people see you, they often rush you onto the main roster when you aren’t ready, and then give you the super push. It usually doesn’t work out, although in the case of Lashley there were many other issues involved. Then they consider you a guy they tried with but it didn’t work. But he was still a very mechanical worker, and he had signed a five-year deal in 2009 and he wasn’t anywhere close to being ready for the main roster, and the idea of developmental is not meant as a five-year program for 32-year-old guys. One person noted to me that it’s not easy for them to send a guy who looks like that out the door; 4. Shaul Guerrero, 23, who used the name Raquel Diaz. They were high on her a few years back because she was such a good talker. She was not a good worker and was getting hurt often trying to work, as she bumped awkwardly. There was a saying that there’s never been a Guerrero that couldn’t work, but while that was accurate until she came along, it’s no longer accurate. The company made the decision because of all her injuries to take her out of the ring. She still could have had something in a manager role. But she quit the company once and they never put her back on TV when she returned. She got hurt before and then when she got hurt when she came back, the decision was made not to have her in the ring due to the injury risk. However, the departure was a surprise since she had just started shooting promos (which hadn’t aired), talking for Baron Corbin. There was also concern that she had too many tattoos added, and concerns about binge dieting. But because she could talk and who her mother is, her cut was a surprise to many; 5. Sarah Backman, 22, a Swedish blond world arm wrestling champion who was given the name Shara. She actually left more than a week ago and it was her own decision. She had been there just over one year and had yet to make it to television.


Mysterio was in Stamford on 4/30 at the corporate offices. He was there to talk a new contract. Not sure what went down past the point we were given the impression the offer he’d get was to be an ambassador for the company, particularly in Spanish language markets, and wrestle part-time. The best way to describe it right now is that everything is up in the air. Vince McMahon wants him back.
 

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Some of the cuts are because a number of people are starting up this month and next month. Gerald Brisco was going to send six to eight recruits out of amateur wrestling for a June start in Orlando. Tony Nelson was the guy he was highest on, but Nelson hadn’t signed as of the last we had heard.


The idea of giving wrestlers time off to recharge and heal up has been talked about as a strategy down the line. The feeling right now is that may be a good thing, but the depth (look at the house show cards when they are running split crews and it’ll hit you) doesn’t allow it. There is trepidation right now about the idea of consistently running shows without either Cena or Bryan as the advertised headliner.


Foley on this week’s creative on Bryan: “Whether Daniel Bryan-WWE Universe knows it or not, now is the time that the fiercest fighting takes place for a WWE champion, and it has nothing to do with the action in the ring. Now is the time to step up and shoot down horrible ideas that can derail even the most promising of ideas. I used to joke that Daniel was the exception to the rule that every top guy in WWE has been perceived at one time or another as a pain in the neck, largely for their willingness to step up and call the creative team out on bad ideas when they see them. That thing I saw tonight, that thing with Daniel and Brie Bella, WWE universe, and the car? That was a bad idea, one that never should have seen the light of day. I have said on several occasions that I used up my ammo when it came to complaining about WWE storylines when I went to bat for the yes movement in the aftermath of the Royal Rumble. I’m going to do my very best to do just that. But I’ll first ask everyone involved, Daniel, Brie, Hunter, Steph, Vince, etc. to take a good look at the nearly identical storyline that ran Zack Ryder’s promising career off the rails, and do everything they can to avoid that same horrible stretch of track.” He’s right, although one angle isn’t going to kill Bryan. But this one didn’t help him, and if he’s weekly put in situations like this, he won’t be Zack Ryder, but it won’t be good for him. Foley either didn’t realize how much heat he had from his complaints about the Royal Rumble, and probably has added more with his complaints going public about video game royalties (and he did speak for many, if not most on that score, but nobody else would dare say it). Either way I like a guy who isn’t afraid to speak his mind, but that’s also not something that those in power appreciate, particularly from a popular guy who they can’t dismiss publicly without coming off bad.


More notes on Regal going to Brazil last week. He went with Canyon Ceman. The guys that they liked from the show in Rio de Janeiro and the show in Sao Paulo that they scouted may be brought to Orlando for tryouts.


Catherine Perry (Lana) is dating Miroslav Barnyashev (Rusev). Daniel Bryan married Brie Bella. HHH married Stephanie. For those of you who are aspiring wrestlers, getting a buddy in creative to create a storyline with a hot girl seems to work out well. And if you have a hot girl, please don’t allow creative to write the end of your relationship with the idea it’s all fiction anyway. And if you’re the booker and you want to script a break-up of your own marriage, learn the lesson from Kevin Sullivan.


WWE’s app won a People’s Voice Award in the Sports Mobile & Apps category as part of the 2014 Webby awards.


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The rumors of A'S demise were greatly exaggerated

WWE officials have been evaluating the main roster Divas division as of late. One of the goals with AJ Lee being out is to see what they have with the talent that have been given limited opportunities.

While some Divas continue to improve, the results of the evaluation have been said to be poor so far. This has made AJ’s stock in the company go up. She’s expected to keep her spot as a top star when she returns.

Going into this week’s tapings, it was said that there’s starting to be some concern about how fans aren’t accepting Paige as the top WWE women’s star. Word is that those concerns also include a lack of reaction at live events, with one observer reporting she isn’t engaging the crowd.

At the same time, the Divas division in NXT continues to impress officials and there has been a lot of talk about upcoming call ups
 
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