TSC Evaluation #62: Triple H
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Cripple H is a high 2. The sight of this guy is nauseating. One of the biggest phonies and politicians ever. If he wasn't married to McMahon, he wouldn't be who he is. He still can't give Foley credit for making him stand out when fans were no selling his "Game" crap in early 2000.
In ring? He's about as boring and predictable as Cena and Blandy. Last person to carry him was Bryan back in 2014.
His promos were decent to a degree in 2000 but then they overshot their load and went overboard. His boring voice and fake intensity just wasn't cutting it. Fans fell for it once after he got injured but 2002 exposed him for the overrated piece of shyt that he is. He got alot of credit working alongside Rocky, Foley, Jericho, Angle, Benoit, and Austin in 2000 but bombed when he didn't have those names in 2002-2006. Bombed so bad they had to create this Cena and Batista charade to put on top of both shows. So Cripple H is a high 2...
In ring? He's about as boring and predictable as Cena and Blandy. Last person to carry him was Bryan back in 2014.
His promos were decent to a degree in 2000 but then they overshot their load and went overboard. His boring voice and fake intensity just wasn't cutting it. Fans fell for it once after he got injured but 2002 exposed him for the overrated piece of shyt that he is. He got alot of credit working alongside Rocky, Foley, Jericho, Angle, Benoit, and Austin in 2000 but bombed when he didn't have those names in 2002-2006. Bombed so bad they had to create this Cena and Batista charade to put on top of both shows. So Cripple H is a high 2...
Idk which thread is funnier between this and the Jarrett one 
Bart simpson
Served w/ no chill
Man I wonder if wrestlers like vincent, horace hogan and the disciple are over HHH in Hart's ranking4/10 and not in my top 1000
JK
Breh is a legit 8. I dislike most of his work but if I'm objective he was a very good wrestler in his prime (for what he was asked to do. He was a "brawler" like Arn Anderson not a mat technician, not a flyer, and he did his brawling style well and believably) He grew into his role and has very good promo work as a heel, as a face, as a "degenerate" who was anti-corporation, and as a corporate man. Anything less than a 7 (to me) would be biased. Without bias Triple H had/has a very solid professional wrestling resume and career.
Mic work/promos: 7
One of the top heels of this era if not #1. My pet peeves were his use of shoot promos and insider terminology. I also couldn't stand his infamous 10+ minute opening promos and his long winded snarky promos in general.
Personality/gimmicks: 6
The Game persona worked well for him but I'm curious to see how Owen Hart would have done with the gimmick since it was originally intended for him. His infatuation with Ric Flair and Harley Race was evident during his Reign of Terror days on Raw in the 2000s.
As a face he wasn't very good and that even includes his DX days. One could easily argue that he was the least valuable member of DX during 98-99 before his main event push. He also was part of the terrible Katie Vick storyline with Kane that led to unremarkable matches. He had other cringeworthy moments like his "feud" with Hornswoggle, his Spirit Squad feud, most of his DX moments from any era (especially the black face segment mocking Nation of Domination), his Wrestlemania program with Booker T, his Eugene storyline, and others that I probably can't remember right now.
Ring work: 7
Matches/feuds: vs Mick Foley, vs The Rock, vs Stone Cold, vs Chris Benoit, vs The Undertaker, vs Daniel Bryan, vs Dean Ambrose
A solid worker in the ring but not at the elite level. He's had a lot of
high profile matches like his ones with Scott Steiner and Randy Orton. His Wrestlemania program with Orton was extremely entertaining and compelling but unfortunately led to a dull Wrestlemania main event match.
Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores): 7
I would give him a 1 for his racist program with Booker T and being the ultimate mark for himself but objectively he had a pretty good career albeit with a heavily padded resume. He desperately wants to be in the elite class of wrestlers like The Rock and Stone Cold but never has reached their level. Honestly he's not even on Shawn Michael's level as an overall talent and he'll even admit that himself.
He was an all time great heel throughout his career and would have still had a solid career even without marrying a McMahon.
One of the top heels of this era if not #1. My pet peeves were his use of shoot promos and insider terminology. I also couldn't stand his infamous 10+ minute opening promos and his long winded snarky promos in general.
Personality/gimmicks: 6
The Game persona worked well for him but I'm curious to see how Owen Hart would have done with the gimmick since it was originally intended for him. His infatuation with Ric Flair and Harley Race was evident during his Reign of Terror days on Raw in the 2000s.
As a face he wasn't very good and that even includes his DX days. One could easily argue that he was the least valuable member of DX during 98-99 before his main event push. He also was part of the terrible Katie Vick storyline with Kane that led to unremarkable matches. He had other cringeworthy moments like his "feud" with Hornswoggle, his Spirit Squad feud, most of his DX moments from any era (especially the black face segment mocking Nation of Domination), his Wrestlemania program with Booker T, his Eugene storyline, and others that I probably can't remember right now.
Ring work: 7
Matches/feuds: vs Mick Foley, vs The Rock, vs Stone Cold, vs Chris Benoit, vs The Undertaker, vs Daniel Bryan, vs Dean Ambrose
A solid worker in the ring but not at the elite level. He's had a lot of
high profile matches like his ones with Scott Steiner and Randy Orton. His Wrestlemania program with Orton was extremely entertaining and compelling but unfortunately led to a dull Wrestlemania main event match.Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores): 7
I would give him a 1 for his racist program with Booker T and being the ultimate mark for himself but objectively he had a pretty good career albeit with a heavily padded resume. He desperately wants to be in the elite class of wrestlers like The Rock and Stone Cold but never has reached their level. Honestly he's not even on Shawn Michael's level as an overall talent and he'll even admit that himself.
He was an all time great heel throughout his career and would have still had a solid career even without marrying a McMahon.
Whats crazy is he is gonna get a five because of totally spread responses 
I have to think about this, easily the most underrated and overrated wrestler of all time. His push to top was well deserved and to this day I think it was incredibly fukked up for Austin not to drop the strap to him at SummerSlam 99, instead he dropped it to Foley who dropped it to Hunter the next night. In return it was even even more fukked up when Punk jobbed cleanly to Hunter at whatever PPV it was. Hunter being pushed to the top was well deserved but the way he was booked once he made it to the top left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. He was booked too strong for a heel, maybe he had to be because he was the top heel going up against some of the biggest stars ever but by this point the way he was booked just seemed forced.
In ring wise, HHH was a very good wrestler, his strength was he was pretty much able to adjust to a lot of different styles, he has classics with Foley, HBK, the Rock, and DBry just to name a few, those are 4 very distinct styles and HHH put on classics with them.
Mic wise he ranged from very boring to very convincing. He wasn't a good face but like Ed said he was a great heel that could get himself, the moment, and the match over. But even as a heel his two biggest flaws were he wouldn't get his opponent over and he just didn't know when to STFU.
I feel like giving HHH an 8 but the fact he was the number 1 heel during the biggest boom in wrestling history should automatically make him a 9. I'll give him a 9 just to even out the 3's and 4's
In ring wise, HHH was a very good wrestler, his strength was he was pretty much able to adjust to a lot of different styles, he has classics with Foley, HBK, the Rock, and DBry just to name a few, those are 4 very distinct styles and HHH put on classics with them.
Mic wise he ranged from very boring to very convincing. He wasn't a good face but like Ed said he was a great heel that could get himself, the moment, and the match over. But even as a heel his two biggest flaws were he wouldn't get his opponent over and he just didn't know when to STFU.
I feel like giving HHH an 8 but the fact he was the number 1 heel during the biggest boom in wrestling history should automatically make him a 9. I'll give him a 9 just to even out the 3's and 4's
One more thing I want to add is the people that say HHH would be nothing without Steph. First he got his main event push before he got with steph. He is arguably the best politicker of all time. He was a WCW jobber reject that politicked his way into the most powerful backstage group at the time, the kliq. You listen to stories about the Montreal screw job and HHH was front and center in devising the plan to screw Bret. Of all the people involved, Bret has forgiven most except HHH. And last but not least he politicked his way into the bosses daughters p*ssy and a stake in ownership, you can hate but you gotta respect the hustle. Even without Steph I think HHH would be a pat Patterson dusty Rhodes type of backstage figure.
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
Giving him an 8, but it's really a high Orton 7. Won't even elaborate, will just copy and paste previous HHH discussion posts from both myself and other posters from other relevant threads and leave it at that:
There's plenty more (specifically involving Booker T, Punk, Bryan, and late DX), but I figure this more than suffices
Never was THE man like Austin and Rock. Doesn't have the rapport with the fans like Undertaker, nor was even held in high regard by the fans like Mankind, a guy who basically cemented HHH's heel status in 2000. And to top it off, he isn't held in the legendary status as his own best friend HBK, whose amount of classic matches dwarfs his. No wonder he had to washout the roster from 2002-2006, and a couple years here and there sprinkled after thatlife works in such cruel ways
HHH has always been riding on the coattails of other people and putting his big nose where it doesn't belong.:hhhtroll:
He wanted to be that dude so bad. You just know he had to be bitter whenever he saw Austin or the rock come out with nothing, but love shown from the crowd.
He wasn't even the most popular member in DX
Even when HHH was in DX, he was getting out-popped by the Outlaws, X-Pac, and Chyna
The moment that tells you everything you need to know about H is the fact that after his big crowning achievement at Wrestlemania 17, beating Y2J for the belt after his big return... he dropped the strap the very next month to the HulKKKster at Backlash
That low key had to burn him even moreso than the Ultimate Warrior squash at WM12. That Backlash loss is basically Vince's way of saying, "yeah, you cool and all, but we got a real star over here that needs the title"
There's plenty more (specifically involving Booker T, Punk, Bryan, and late DX), but I figure this more than suffices
Alfred0Santana
I used to drop Lewinsky off at the White House.
Gave dude a 7. During 99-01 I was actually rocking with HHH. At the same time I was like 10-11 years old and just wanted to cheer for the heel and I saw this dude with the title all the damn time and always beating Rock ass. His "My Time" theme is one of the goats. I liked the DX-McMahon faction at the time but in reality they have been recycling this authority angle for so damn long.
HHH got heat as a heel and cut good promos sometimes but this was the start of the Hunter 30 minute promos to kick off Raw too so double edged sword.
Before his quad injury HHH was damn good in the ring. One of the best.
The thing with Hunter is he had to be involved with somebody like a Rock, Austin, Taker, HBK, Angle...list goes on...to even give a damn. HHH never was top billing...BUT now with those dudes gone WWE wants to rewrite history and act like he was and tell themselves we want to see HHH at Wrestlemania in a main event every year.
Regardless if he is putting over talent or not. We don't want to see him anymore. I gave him extra points just for what he's done outside the ring with NXT...working his way up in the office and helping squash some of Vince's old beefs to bring some guys back. Extra point for marrying the boss wife and finessing your way into security for life
. Paul has done alright. Just stay off TV :SCUSTHHH:.
Alfred0Santana
I used to drop Lewinsky off at the White House.
I didn't even touch on how bad he is a face. Oh god. Giving me flashbacks of that last DX run
he's an 8 who believes he's a 15.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
-Mic work/promos = 9
.His "blueblood" days were kinda wack but when he became the HHH we know and hate, you can'y deny that he knew how to cut a promo or build a match up.
-Personality/gimmicks = 8
When he was on that aristocrat blue blood shyt it was whatever, but when dude became "HHH" and subsequently "The Game", I can't even front, I hated Trips but as a wrestling fan I loved that gimmick. I enjoyed DX when it was fresh and new. When he first started coming out to "My Time" I was like yoooooooo lemme find out Trips trying to come up now??? LOL
-Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds) = 9
Trips can go. I think we all agree on this point. Trips has had some great feuds with literally ALL the greats from Rock to Austin to Taker...Foley...everyone worth mentioning even when they were probably past their time. And yes the Sledgehammer era was lit.
-Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores)
I'm giving Trips an 8
The problem with Trips has always been the shyt BEHIND the scenes...
.His "blueblood" days were kinda wack but when he became the HHH we know and hate, you can'y deny that he knew how to cut a promo or build a match up.
-Personality/gimmicks = 8
When he was on that aristocrat blue blood shyt it was whatever, but when dude became "HHH" and subsequently "The Game", I can't even front, I hated Trips but as a wrestling fan I loved that gimmick. I enjoyed DX when it was fresh and new. When he first started coming out to "My Time" I was like yoooooooo lemme find out Trips trying to come up now??? LOL
-Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds) = 9
Trips can go. I think we all agree on this point. Trips has had some great feuds with literally ALL the greats from Rock to Austin to Taker...Foley...everyone worth mentioning even when they were probably past their time. And yes the Sledgehammer era was lit.
-Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores)
I'm giving Trips an 8
The problem with Trips has always been the shyt BEHIND the scenes...
Nero Christ
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Haitch is good in his own right and sometimes even great but it's like 
says, he doin too much. If HHH would've played his part and not tried so hard to be something he clearly isn't, he would be looked at more favorable and WWE would probably be in a better position.
Also, I've always noted Triple H as being something that changed how the WWF felt. Before 2000, WWF was legit fun to watch. Austin/McMahon fukkery, Rock sonning wrestlers, the tag team division, multiple mid card feuds with colorful characters and the divas. And then Haitch is pushed and there is a complete different tone to the product; less fun, more serious and it has carried up all the way til today. He obviously has his view on how wrestling should be and it is not how others see it as indicated by the ratings since 02. This doesn't deny him as being a good wrestler who has classic moments over the years tho, but it is a big determining factor as to why a guy who has accomplished as much as he has still creates such a negative response. I'll give him a low 8.
says, he doin too much. If HHH would've played his part and not tried so hard to be something he clearly isn't, he would be looked at more favorable and WWE would probably be in a better position. Also, I've always noted Triple H as being something that changed how the WWF felt. Before 2000, WWF was legit fun to watch. Austin/McMahon fukkery, Rock sonning wrestlers, the tag team division, multiple mid card feuds with colorful characters and the divas. And then Haitch is pushed and there is a complete different tone to the product; less fun, more serious and it has carried up all the way til today. He obviously has his view on how wrestling should be and it is not how others see it as indicated by the ratings since 02. This doesn't deny him as being a good wrestler who has classic moments over the years tho, but it is a big determining factor as to why a guy who has accomplished as much as he has still creates such a negative response. I'll give him a low 8.