TSC Evaluation #60: Randy Orton

[ALTRUISM]

About a 7. I really fukked with his legend killer gimmick, but outside of that... meh. Cool things about him on the surface level such as a great theme, entrance, and finisher -- but not very good once you delve deeper.

His current run, especially, is what really turns me off from him. He's just coasting with the same matches and generic viper gimmick. Him winning pointless feuds against superior talent like Rusev doesn't help either.


He did have some good matches with the likes of Christian, Taker, Benoit, and Henry to name a few. Favorite (unintentionally funny) moment would have to be this:

 

[CM_Burns]

He never drew big ratings on his own. The Triple H program was during Wrestlemania season which always has the highest ratings for the year. Any other time he has been ratings poison.

When Rock came back, were those ratings increases because of Cena/Miz and Mania season also?

Ratings were getting major increases for his segments specifically at that time. It was beyond the usual WM spikes. The segment where he punted Vince drew some stupid viewer increase.

The angle was built around him with HHH/MCmahons reacting to him, he was much more of a focal point than them.

For at least those 3 months, he was drawing. Mania 25 did pretty well with that as the top match and a weak undercard, too.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

About a 7. I really fukked with his legend killer gimmick, but outside of that... meh. Cool things about him on the surface level such as a great theme, entrance, and finisher -- but not very good once you delve deeper.

His current run, especially, is what really turns me off from him. He's just coasting with the same matches and generic viper gimmick. Him winning pointless feuds against superior talent like Rusev doesn't help either.


He did have some good matches with the likes of Christian, Taker, Benoit, and Henry to name a few. Favorite (unintentionally funny) moment would have to be this:

When Rock came back, were those ratings increases because of Cena/Miz and Mania season also?

Ratings were getting major increases for his segments specifically at that time. It was beyond the usual WM spikes. The segment where he punted Vince drew some stupid viewer increase.

The angle was built around him with HHH/MCmahons reacting to him, he was much more of a focal point than them.

For at least those 3 months, he was drawing. Mania 25 did pretty well with that as the top match and a weak undercard, too.

The problem is that he’s never grown and developed beyond the end of legacy. That’s where they truly dropped the ball. He’s been drifting ever since. They’ve basically had no idea what to do with him the last 7-8 years now.

 

[CM_Burns]

The problem is that he’s never grown and developed beyond the end of legacy. That’s where they truly dropped the ball. He’s been drifting ever since. They’ve basically had no idea what to do with him the last 7-8 years now.

There was that time where he was getting major face pops for a month or two and it looked like they might make him the top face, then he cooled off. Since then, the past 6 or 7 years he hasnt grown, yea.

That doesn't put him below bums like Tommy Dreamer.

 

[mrken12]

There was that time where he was getting major face pops for a month or two and it looked like they might make him the top face, then he cooled off. Since then, the past 6 or 7 years he hasnt grown, yea.

That doesn't put him below bums like Tommy Dreamer.

He'll be above Tommy Dreamer. However, he'll be below people like Chyna and Billy Gunn.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

He'll be above Tommy Dreamer. However, he'll be below people like Chyna and Billy Gunn.

Orton probably never was over as much nor had the influence as Chyna, and Billy Gunn has probably entertained me in his career more than Orton, even unintentionally

 

[Starboy52]

He'll be above Tommy Dreamer. However, he'll be below people like Chyna and Billy Gunn.

TBF, they gave more reason to care than Orton and actually make you invest in them at some point. Even though Billy Gun winning KOTR 99 over X Pac or Kane is still a top 10 booking mistake

 

[mrken12]

Spoiler: Matches

Orton vs Christian for the World Heavyweight Championship, Smackdown May 6, 2011


Orton vs Christian for the World Heavyweight Championship, Over the Limit 2011




Orton vs Christian for the World Heavyweight Championship, No Holds Barred, SummerSlam 2011



Orton vs Cactus Jack, No Holds Barred, Backlash 2004


Orton vs Edge, Raw April 30, 2007


Orton vs Daniel Bryan, Raw December 16, 2013



Orton vs Undertaker, Wrestlemania 21



Orton vs Chris Benoit for World Heavyweight Title, SummerSlam 2004

 

[Dreamzeedream]

The problem is that he’s never grown and developed beyond the end of legacy. That’s where they truly dropped the ball. He’s been drifting ever since. They’ve basically had no idea what to do with him the last 7-8 years now.

He accomplished to much to soon in his career

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

He accomplished to much to soon in his career

I don’t think that’s the issue. Steve Austin won the first royal rumble match he entered and was headlining wrestlemania by his second year on its card. The problem is lazy and uninspired booking with no sense of direction.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

I don’t think that’s the issue. Steve Austin won the first royal rumble match he entered and was headlining wrestlemania by his second year on its card. The problem is lazy and uninspired booking with no sense of direction.

He was in the 96 Rumble, he was eliminated by Papa Uce.

 

[threattonature]

I don’t think that’s the issue. Steve Austin won the first royal rumble match he entered and was headlining wrestlemania by his second year on its card. The problem is lazy and uninspired booking with no sense of direction.

But Steve Austin also had been in the business for 7-8 years by that point and more than paid his dues. Orton was only like 22 or 23 when he won his first title.

I gave Orton a 5 overall. Crazy cause I was stanning him around the RNN shyt. Thought he had crazy charisma, potential to be great in the ring, and just that built in arrogance. Thought WWE fukked him turning him a little too early, they fukked up after him punting Stephanie with a shytty match. But Orton can't be excused for phoning it in so much and just being overall lazy in the ring and with promos.

 

[DamienWayne]

vegeta of the wwe getting a 5 overal

 

[Vice Queen]

He had a spark when he started.

 

[Tommy Fits]

Gave him a 5.... easily the most overrated wrestler ever. The most bland and cookie cutter star ever. The only interesting thing he ever did was the legend killer gimmick