TSC Evaluation #60: Randy Orton

[King Ka$h]

Anything above a 5,maybe a 6 is blasphemy

 

[Box Cutta]

Once them rose glasses came off, its fukk randy orton.

Not only is he a racist good ol boy, he isnt good, outside of the astetics of wrestling, he is awful.

• Promos are canned and boring as fukk. F-
• Personality he mails it in terribly. Its so obvious when he doesn't give a fukk or is losing.... F.
• Ring work - jesus...every orton match is slow as shyt...all he has is a super plex and a finisher. How can you have a formulaic moveset that SUCKS? Every orton match is a D+

Overall i give a 1. He is Terry Taylor with better friends in the business. He was eclipsed by cena, batista, brock, lashley, jericho, and given more chances than all of them, and mania main events that flopped. Orton is garbage...almost jeff jarrett status but thats negative territory.

Dap + Rep...

Orton deserved every single word too....

 

[DamienWayne]

4.6

 

[Stack Money]

I knew the fake militants were gonna do their thing as soon as I saw the thread, most of these nikkas only hatin on him now cause he had Alt Right Tweets this past year exposin himself as a Trumptard but some of the same ones in here tryna roast him fukked wit him before that.

Once them rose glasses came off, its fukk randy orton.

Not only is he a racist good ol boy, he isnt good, outside of the astetics of wrestling, he is awful.

• Promos are canned and boring as fukk. F-
• Personality he mails it in terribly. Its so obvious when he doesn't give a fukk or is losing.... F.
• Ring work - jesus...every orton match is slow as shyt...all he has is a super plex and a finisher. How can you have a formulaic moveset that SUCKS? Every orton match is a D+

Overall i give a 1. He is Terry Taylor with better friends in the business. He was eclipsed by cena, batista, brock, lashley, jericho, and given more chances than all of them, and mania main events that flopped. Orton is garbage...almost jeff jarrett status but thats negative territory.

I thought of it on the fly but its very accurate. If terry taylor was better friends with JJ dillon and ric flair, they would've pushed the york foundation to the moon, he would've main evented starrcade vs sting, would be a top heel vs bret hart in wwf and failed at that too, and he would've been viewed how orton is today.

fukk outta here wit that "rose colored glasses" shyt you just jumped ship when everyone in TSC blew a gasket over his Tweets and you didn't wanna be outside of the "cool kids club", you prolly still a fan of him but are too scared to say so for fear they'll claim you

I give him a 4, just off the strength of his finisher.

Promo skills are a 3. As a heel he's OK, as a face he's very very unnatural. His promos are more boring than HHHs 15 minute monologues.

Look - 4. The all black attire emphasizes how drab everything about him is. But if you put him in colors he'd look goofy. To be honest, he should push the envelope and adopt a white nationalist gimmick, that the WWE could smooth over by having him job to black wrestlers every week on TV. Call him the Charlottesville Brawler.

Ringwork - 5. He's not a horrible wrestler, but he doesn't take any risks of deviates much from his moveset of flow of matches. He can be carried to a good, memorable match, but I don't think he gives a shyt enough to put on a five star match.

If Orton retired right now, the WWE would stay the same or improve. If Orton never wrestled in the WWE the product would stay the same or maybe have been better. For a multiple time world champion this is damning. If John Cena is the Michael Jackson of this era, Randy is Tito. He's the definition of a bathroom break.

Was going to give a 4 before this post but seeing his former biggest stan completely shyt on his entire being made me check in on his body of work.

Looking back all Randall Keith Orton is, is a cool finisher that DDP does exponentially better. Orton is only as good as who he is in the ring with and even after that he doesnt apply himself in the least.

I remember nothing about his title reigns except getting cashed in on by the Miz and thats only because of that angry girl meme.

ANYONE could have been the legend killer with his endless push.

Worst Mania title win of ALL TIME.

Derailed Kofi's push after Kofi got himself over (Orton did nothing special).

Actually broke his hand hitting the mat setting up the RKO once

Cant be trusted to do a 10 year old's chores and come back unscathed.


Yep hes definitely a 1

Y'all already said everything I was gonna say(and have said countless times before), so I'll keep this short. He's the worst pushed main event talent of all time. I've never seen someone without any discernable skills(workrate, promos, gimmick) get so many opportunities over more talented peers.

He gets a 3.

1. Pose
2. Look/theme
3. Rkkko

Amazing, Orton had a pretty healthy legion of stans/admirers even up to about two years ago. Well, if not stans then at least fans. And to be real Orton is not anything different than he was two years ago, five years ago, or eight years ago. He's always been lazy, monotone, immature bytchy, exhibited tendencies etc etc. Only difference is he's coming off a year's worth of WOAT feuds. If he had even something mildly interesting I doubt these scores would be this low. I remember when he was paired up with Wyatt for that brief moment he wasn't instant status around here like he is now. Honestly, if you were a fan of Orton in 2009 you should still be a fan of him today. He's never tried to hide who and what he is, or isn't.

I guess to score him he'd be a solid five. Only thing he has is a look/pose. Everything else average. Just a tall guy in trunks.

For as much as yall love to talk about the E rewritin history yall stay doin it yourselves, like I get it yall don't like him as a person outside the ring but at least try to have some objectivity when speakin on him in the context of wrestlin. All the ridiculous hyperbole goin out of your way to shyt on him callin him Tito givin him a 1 sayin he can't wrestle and doesn't even have a good look is pure hate that I only ever see on hereeven the "pushed too soon/wasn't over in the beginnin" complaints yall made for years is shyt I ain't see anywhere else cause he was over when he was wit Evolution that's why they pushed him and turned him face he was gettin pops while they were heels.

Orton had fire promos back in the day but when he switched to the "Viper" he became a slower talkin cold calculatin sociopath which he pulls off well, most smarks like yall are into the hyper over the top promo delivery which is why it don't resonate wit you.

Most people couldn't have been the Legend Killer cause most don't have the look that the E wants, dude got a badass look tatted up at 6'4 245 that's not too big but bigger than average he also was cuttin promos that people loved and had a aura about him not just from his look but his swag that fans liked at the time. Even now whenever dude does an interview his personality comes out and he has people interested whether they love him or hate him, I remember cats on here sayin that Kelly Kelly interview he did made them realize that he can cut promos they like if he was allowed to go off script and be himself.

As far as his ring work that might be the most laughable lie yall makin sayin he can't wrestle and gets carried to good matches when literally EVERYONE in the business says otherwise



@09:09 Austin the arguable GOAT says Orton got shytloads of talent, but yall smarks think yall know more than him and other actual wrestlers. When Orton first started wrestlin he was doin moonsaults and shyt but the E told him to leave that to the smaller guys and that as a bigger guy he should stick to more power moves and technical wrestlin, if the E took the cuffs off and didn't relegate everyone to the same 5 moves yall would beat a guy his size doin some of the moves he's capable of the same way yall are at cats like Lesnar/Taker who have a diverse arsenal. Even the few moves he sticks to he does to perfection makin the shyt look easy while not even tryin, he don't need others to make him look good he's the wrestler that can carry other wrestlers as once again Austin points out -



Yall bring up Kofi but Orton is responsible for some of these other guys yall love goin over like Henry Christian and Jinder durin their feuds, he wanted each of them to go over and was the main one arguin for Jinder to even get a push.

And the cutter looks more brutal the way DDP did it but Orton's version has more of a flair to it which makes it better and he can hit it from anywhere in difficult positions that DDP couldn't even if he wanted to (like that Evan Bourne RKO which is another reason it's laughable to front like Randy ain't got skills), as over as the move was wit Page it's twice as over wit Orton cause of the various ways he pulls it off. But accordin to yall he a talentless hack.

Rose glasses? You were the biggest Randy Orton stan/apologist on the Coli for years.

@ it taking until 2017 and some questionable racist stuff to realize that Orton is one of the laziest b*stards to ever set foot in the biz.

He afraid of gettin called a cac on here by other cacs:unclecharlesdead:

No shyt Orton lazy which Cena mentioned in one of his shoot promos durin their last feud, he was supposed to be the #1 guy but let Cena pass him when Orton had everythin goin for him (the look talent higher ups on his side etc). The fact that he's as over and remained in the top 2 of his era while half assin it speaks to how good he is, if he gave a shyt all the time he'd be goat status like he was durin his 09 run.

 

[DamienWayne]

Orton is a lazy piece of shyt but doesn't deserve lower than a 6

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

I knew the fake militants were gonna do their thing as soon as I saw the thread, most of these nikkas only hatin on him now cause he had Alt Right Tweets this past year exposin himself as a Trumptard but some of the same ones in here tryna roast him fukked wit him before that.



fukk outta here wit that "rose colored glasses" shyt you just jumped ship when everyone in TSC blew a gasket over his Tweets and you didn't wanna be outside of the "cool kids club", you prolly still a fan of him but are too scared to say so for fear they'll claim you



For as much as yall love to talk about the E rewritin history yall stay doin it yourselves, like I get it yall don't like him as a person outside the ring but at least try to have some objectivity when speakin on him in the context of wrestlin. All the ridiculous hyperbole goin out of your way to shyt on him callin him Tito givin him a 1 sayin he can't wrestle and doesn't even have a good look is pure hate that I only ever see on hereeven the "pushed too soon/wasn't over in the beginnin" complaints yall made for years is shyt I ain't see anywhere else cause he was over when he was wit Evolution that's why they pushed him and turned him face he was gettin pops while they were heels.

Orton had fire promos back in the day but when he switched to the "Viper" he became a slower talkin cold calculatin sociopath which he pulls off well, most smarks like yall are into the hyper over the top promo delivery which is why it don't resonate wit you.

Most people couldn't have been the Legend Killer cause most don't have the look that the E wants, dude got a badass look tatted up at 6'4 245 that's not too big but bigger than average he also was cuttin promos that people loved and had a aura about him not just from his look but his swag that fans liked at the time. Even now whenever dude does an interview his personality comes out and he has people interested whether they love him or hate him, I remember cats on here sayin that Kelly Kelly interview he did made them realize that he can cut promos they like if he was allowed to go off script and be himself.

As far as his ring work that might be the most laughable lie yall makin sayin he can't wrestle and gets carried to good matches when literally EVERYONE in the business says otherwise



@09:09 Austin the arguable GOAT says Orton got shytloads of talent, but yall smarks think yall know more than him and other actual wrestlers. When Orton first started wrestlin he was doin moonsaults and shyt but the E told him to leave that to the smaller guys and that as a bigger guy he should stick to more power moves and technical wrestlin, if the E took the cuffs off and didn't relegate everyone to the same 5 moves yall would beat a guy his size doin some of the moves he's capable of the same way yall are at cats like Lesnar/Taker who have a diverse arsenal. Even the few moves he sticks to he does to perfection makin the shyt look easy while not even tryin, he don't need others to make him look good he's the wrestler that can carry other wrestlers as once again Austin points out -



Yall bring up Kofi but Orton is responsible for some of these other guys yall love goin over like Henry Christian and Jinder durin their feuds, he wanted each of them to go over and was the main one arguin for Jinder to even get a push.

And the cutter looks more brutal the way DDP did it but Orton's version has more of a flair to it which makes it better and he can hit it from anywhere in difficult positions that DDP couldn't even if he wanted to (like that Evan Bourne RKO which is another reason it's laughable to front like Randy ain't got skills), as over as the move was wit Page it's twice as over wit Orton cause of the various ways he pulls it off. But accordin to yall he a talentless hack.


He afraid of gettin called a cac on here by other cacs:unclecharlesdead:

No shyt Orton lazy which Cena mentioned in one of his shoot promos durin their last feud, he was supposed to be the #1 guy but let Cena pass him when Orton had everythin goin for him (the look talent higher ups on his side etc). The fact that he's as over and remained in the top 2 of his era while half assin it speaks to how good he is, if he gave a shyt all the time he'd be goat status like he was durin his 09 run.

Why'd you quote me? I'm the only one who kept it real?

 

[mrken12]

Why'd you quote me? I'm the only one who kept it real?

Please. You don't even believe what you posted. You were just going against the grain.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Please. You don't even believe what you posted. You were just going against the grain.

Why because I gave him a five instead of a one? Yeah, real against the grain. You know damn well Orton doesn't deserve a one. And if it weren't for his recent alt right lite rantings you would be saying my five was against the grain for different reasons. Orton is the same wrestler he has been for years and years; lazy, bland, monotone, a scum bag out of the ring. Yet he was tolerated and had out right stans. Now he's the worst ever. What changed?

 

[cenoflg]

High 6/low 7.

For all the low ratings he'll get I fukked with him when he had the legend killer gimmick and also when he was psycho punting nikkas in the head





Garbage since then though

Plus let's not pretend this isn't one of the GOAT wrestling poses, I still do this shyt to my nikkas when I beat them at video games sometimes

Legend killer shyt was legendary

 

[OmegaK2099]

Fukk orton and yeah i jumped on the bandwagon because hes a redneck trump supporter

 

[Hoodoo Child]

KKKandy gets a 3 from me. If it wasn't for those RKO's he would've got a 1.

 

[TobiOT]

Got that worst feud/match combo with Bray Dizzle

 

[OmegaK2099]

Got that worst feud/match combo with Bray Dizzle

he may have even ruined brays career, not that it wasnt already on the decline, but this might have been the straw that broke the camels back

 

[Doctor Doom]

Pretty much GOAT finisher for a heel/underdog.

Has had really good themes (He even had This Fire Burns for like a week or two before he got Voices)

The Punt actually had people legit hate him and think he was out here sidelining nikkas

Other than that, I'll give him a 1.

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

headlocks and out of nowhere RKOs

Nuffsaid

had a spark when he started but got garbage

4