Tsc brehs, School me on the history of xpac heat.....

[Reality Check]

Probably fits better to call it Jeff Jarrett heat because as you say at least X-Pac was over at some point in his career unlike Jarrett's bytch ass.

This. At least with X-Pac he wasn't a Main Eventer, just an upper Mid-Carder at best. Jarrett was shoved down people's throats as a Main Eventer in both WCW & TNA through 10 (yes 10) Heavyweight title reigns.

 

[stro]

Umm HELL no. And I think the term X-Pac heat started during his 00'-01' X-factor stable run not his 98' DX run.

X-Pac was most definitely more over than Mankind at the time Mankind's main event push started. Mick was not getting strong reactions for a good 2 months in that position. Actually, Mick had real issues getting and staying over with WWE crowds. People tend to forget that going into HIAC, he has NO heat at all. After it, he didn't have much more, and started turning into a comedy joke character who suddenly was in the main event picture to keep Austin and Rock apart before WM.

The lowest buy rates for PPVs after Austin won the title in 1998 both involved Foley in the main event. Over The Edge (Austin vs Dude Love 2) did 500,000 less than WM, 100,000 than Unforgiven. Rock/Mankind at Rock Bottom fell in between OTE and Unforgiven. As a headliner, Mick wasn't doing shyt for ratings/buyrates in 1998. And after that, he was never the TRUE main event attraction, since his next two matches took place on the Rumble (with Austin and Vince in the rumble itself) and was semi-main to Austin/Vince in a cage. Then a triple threat with Austin/HHH that wasn't made a triple threat until a few days before the show.

He only had one PPV main event where he was truly the main event and star, and that was No Way Out 2000 (his retirement show), and that did better numbers than the Feb PPV the year before. But that was after a year of main events and being buddy buddy with The Rock, the biggest draw of the period. In 1998, he wasn't very over and was in fact struggling to keep his head above water.

However, X-Pac was never even attempted to be pushed in the main events, so there is really no way to quantify who was a bigger draw or anything. You can definitely HEAR the difference in their reactions in 1998, though.

 

[NSSVO]

What a gif to bust out lol

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

lol@The revisionist history up in this thread

X-Pac got booed because he was god awful during the Invasion angle. He had the WOAT stable with the WOAT theme. All of his matches were the same. Stupid karate kicks in the corner, crotch chop and X-factor. He kept going over guys like Jeff Hardy, Tajiri and Billy Kidman who were more over than he was at the time. The fans got sick of it and just booed this mufukka because they were tired of him & his lame ass schtick.

If X-Pac heat didn't exist, then why didn't his career ever recover?

as WOAT as they were, there will never be a stable as bad as the spirit quad or the dungeon of doom though

X-Pac Heat.

He was, by far, the LEAST popular person in DX.

He had no classic matches or rivalries, he had no popular catchphrases, he had a bronco buster.

He was treated like the annoying sidekick, because that's what he was.

He was the Unpopular Person surrounded by VERY popular people.

Even his DX theme was terrible, and sounded like somehting he begged that lead singer to do, which he then did in his living room alone.



Because there was no bass or drum or anything to his theme, you could LITERALLY hear how much the crowd didn't give a shyt when he came out.

The silence was deafening.


X-Pac Heat.

the start of his theme has had me both and since I first heard is

His theme was a remix of Tyson's theme



Honestly X-Pac heat isnt as bad as Eva Marie or Stephanie McMahon heat. But people would have you believe theyre great heels too

real shyt I don't know anyone who ever wants to see either of those two on their tv

When he insults the crowd at 5:04 and you hear about two people care enough to boo

"By the way X-Pac, 1998 called and they're sic and tired of you, so feel free to join us in the year 2001 anytime"

Edge was ruthless with the truth-telling ether

"I developed my very own persona. Character development". this shyt applies so hard to so much of the current era it makes me sad. Edge has killed at least 3 careers on the mike

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

as WOAT as they were, there will never be a stable as bad as the spirit quad or the dungeon of doom though


the start of his theme has had me both and since I first heard is


real shyt I don't know anyone who ever wants to see either of those two on their tv


"I developed my very own persona. Character development". this shyt applies so hard to so much of the current era it makes me sad. Edge has killed at least 3 careers on the mike

What the fukk is he even saying in the beginning of X-Pac's theme? It always sounded like "Lykssssnutzzzzzzzzz!!!!"

 

[stro]

Pretty clearly says "X-Pac"

 

[Chris Cool]

What the fukk is he even saying in the beginning of X-Pac's theme? It always sounded like "Lykssssnutzzzzzzzzz!!!!"

Recently figured out he says "make some noise" and was . His theme was fire to me though all the dx members had dope themes to me.

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

Pretty clearly says "X-Pac"

Clear? Its distorted as fukk

 

[Swagnicious]

I'm reading this thread.....and let's make one thing clear right now:

If someone is a heel and they're getting booed, they're getting heat. Which is what they're supposed to be getting, and it means they're doing their job regardless of how they allegedly attained the heat

Trying to classify heat for a heel into different categories based on the perceived reason why the fans are booing, is pointless. It literally makes no difference as long as the person is supposed to be getting booed in the first place

All this "they're booing him not because they're supposed to, but because they legitimately don't wanna see him" is bullshyt. You could say that shyt about literally any heel that has ever been booed. It's just a roundabout way of saying "I personally don't like this heel wrestler for non-kayfabe reasons....so I guess all the fans must be booing him for those same reasons"

Now obviously an intended face getting boos is different. A face gets booed if the fans think they're wack, annoying and/or overpushed. I don't know why X-Pac became the poster boy for this when it happened to others before him (The Rock is a good example); as a matter of fact I could have sworn he basically stayed a heel in WWE after turning on Kane anyway, so boos wouldn't have been out of place....

I also don't like the revisionist history in here concerning how over X-Pac was during his prime DX days......

X-Pac Heat.

He was, by far, the LEAST popular person in DX.

He had no classic matches or rivalries, he had no popular catchphrases, he had a bronco buster.

Like this shyt right here.

He was the least popular person in DX? ......News flash: nobody gave a shyt about Billy Gunn outside of his tag team with Road Dogg; at least X-Pac got cheers as a solo wrestler away from other members of the group. And everyone remembers him teaming up with, and later feuding with Kane and stealing his girl.....that was a major ongoing storyline X-Pac got plenty of love from the fans when he initially befriended Kane

 

[stro]

HHH was the least over member of DX pretty much the entire time it existed. In all forms.

 

[julesocean]

X-Pac heat was when you booed the performer, and not the character. Nowadays lots of ppl get the XPac heat cuz WWE booking is shyt and push ppl we don't want as faces. Here is a prime example. Invasion storyline, half of the guys was heels, but the fans cheered for anyone on Team WWF. The only person, who still got booed outta the building on Team WWF when he is supposed to be acting as a face? XPac.

EDIT: The reason we know XPac was getting XPac heat during his heel tenure and not getting proper heat? Because we all fukkin changed the channel when he came on.

 

[richaveli83]

His theme was a remix of Tyson's theme

 

[Tide Run This]

Tyson always had fire walkout music Boxing and Wrestling

 

[Playaz Eyez]

I was always a fan of his, and dude was hugely popular as a face from 98-parts of 99, and boo'd the shyt out of in 2000. That "X-Pac Heat" shift was in 2001, where he was getting mild cheers at one point. But heading into Invasion, it was a weird time, cause X-Factor was a heel stable, but Justin Credible was in the Alliance as a heel, while X-Pac and Albert were still WWF loyalists as faces. I remember Invasion when he faced Kidman, came out to some decent cheers, then the crowd was pretty much fully behind Kidman

Damn those themes are fire

 

[Swagnicious]

For fukk's sake, I just realized the WWE had Undertaker and Kane basically feuding over X-Pac.....that's how popular X-Pac was in those days