Trump wants Gov't Shutdown; Trump signs massive 2yr budget deal

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You don't understand Trump.

So what's the alternative? Getting them in via good faith negotiations is obviously not going to happen. Trump isn't budging from his current proposal which has detractors on both sides of the aisle (too much "relief" for immigrants or not enough). If the administration is as dumb as people like to say the best way is to promise him the funding so we can get this one quagmire out of the way. Beyond DACA, it doesn't seem like the Dems have anymore major legislative goals *sigh* so it doesn't seem like playing dirty once the deal is made will bite them in the ass. I'm guessing they don't want to agree to Trump's immigration limits which would be much harder to undo but you have 1.8 million (Trump's DACA number) who's lives hang in the balance now. Dems are going to have to pick the issue to kick the can on and DACA is about to get kicked off the cliff.
 

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Feels like they're gonna have to drag Pelosi's corpse out there. 77 year old's not suppose to be standing up telling stories for hours in high heels.
 

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Not going to overreact like some of you guys till I see something real

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Any reason to thrash the Left will not be passes up by many posters on here.

I just ignore them these days. Just wish they'd admit their love of the right and drop the act.

DACA will be readressed later. Gov't shutdowns are no joke.
 

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@88m3 is literally in disbelief... this is what your corporate democrats look like in the light dikkhead

@Call Me James centrists losers like you and Nap own this L

Sanders set would have never budged on this and dragged Trump through the fire
What exactly is the L candian man?

Considering I've always been in favor of sshutting the government down over DACA, Chips, think trumps wall is stupid, support healthcare overhaul, support campaign finance reform and see very little value in trying to cross the aisle In the current environment how exactly am I a centrist dem?

You're such a whiny Canadian. Always overreacting over American politics and have somehow convinced yourself that not being a socialist is centrist in American politics.


:francis: keep it moving sunshine.
 

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What exactly is the L candian man?

Considering I've always been in favor of sshutting the government down over DACA, Chips, think trumps wall is stupid, support healthcare overhaul, support campaign finance reform and see very little value in trying to cross the aisle In the current environment how exactly am I a centrist dem?

You're such a whiny Canadian. Always overreacting over American politics and have somehow convinced yourself that not being a socialist is centrist in American politics.


:francis: keep it moving sunshine.
You’re a hoe ass nikka who rides corporate Democrat dikk on here and tries to play the “serious adult” game when it comes to anything. Now the people you idolize wouldn’t even stand up to Trump on children who’ve come to America and served in the military or been productive in some way. Even most Republicans support a pathway for Dreamers and the p*ssy boys you support on here let down millions.

And I’m not a white boy but whatever makes you feel better you spineless nerd. I bet you kiss ass in real life :scust:
 

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You’re a hoe ass nikka who rides corporate Democrat dikk on here and tries to play the “serious adult” game when it comes to anything. Now the u idolize wouldn’t even stand up to Trump on children who’ve come to America and served in the military or been productive in some way. Even most Republicans support a pathway for Dreamers and the p*ssy boys you support on here let down millions.

And I’m not a white boy but whatever makes you feel better you spineless nerd. I bet you kiss ass in real life :scust:
You been so caught up in your Clinton vs Sanders hard on that you clearly have not read any of my post regarding DACA.

Until you have something of mine you'd like to quote showing where I have been factually off with regard to DACA or holding the wrong position you can kick rocks.

The funny part is the vast majority of democrats support DACA and providing a pathway for citizenship. This goes across the entire spectrum of Democrats.

With that being the case your argument is logically incongruent.

Obviously the issue lies with the President and conservative republicans.

The same corporate or centrist dems you criticize have worked out numerous deals to get the legislation passed but all have been shot down by the President or Paul Ryan.

You honestly have no clue what you're talking about. And unlike you I don't idolize any politicians. They're only tools for progress.

Now go somewhere while adults talk. :hhh:
 

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You been so caught up in your Clinton vs Sanders hard on that you clearly have not read any of my post regarding DACA.

Until you have something of mine you'd like to quote showing where I have been factually off with regard to DACA or holding the wrong position you can kick rocks.

The funny part is the vast majority of democrats support DACA and providing a pathway for citizenship. This goes across the entire spectrum of Democrats.

With that being the case your argument is logically incongruent.

Obviously the issue lies with the President and conservative republicans.

The same corporate or centrist dems you criticize have worked out numerous deals to get the legislation passed but all have been shot down by the President or Paul Ryan.

You honestly have no clue what you're talking about. And unlike you I don't idolize any politicians. They're only tools for progress.

Now go somewhere while adults talk. :hhh:
Lmao @ working out numerous deals with republicans to get things done. Have you been paying attention to politics? What possible deal could they make that isn’t massively right wing with these massively right wing fascist republicans? Stop watching CNN you drone. How is the fault with Trump or Ryan when they don’t want the Dreamers at all? Is it there fault they want them at all? Is it up to the Democrats and Dreamers to change their minds? Or was it a prudent move to use what little leverage they had to force the Republicans to break, with Trump and the Republicans having all time low approval ratings?

Please don’t reply to me unless you can at least actively google the facts of what transpired. The Democrats had all the leverage and blew it out of fear.
 

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Lmao @ working out numerous deals with republicans to get things done. Have you been paying attention to politics? What possible deal could they make that isn’t massively right wing with these massively right wing fascist republicans? Stop watching CNN you drone. How is the fault with Trump or Ryan when they don’t want the Dreamers at all? Is it there fault they want them at all? Is it up to the Democrats and Dreamers to change their minds? Or was it a prudent move to use what little leverage they had to force the Republicans to break, with Trump and the Republicans having all time low approval ratings?

Please don’t reply to me unless you can at least actively google the facts of what transpired. The Democrats had all the leverage and blew it out of fear.
The Democrats never had the leverage. :snoop:


Your argument is:

It is the fault of the minority party that the majority who also holds the white for not passing popular legislation?

Are you still ignoring the fact that we are here because Trumpnset the deadline on DACA?

This is some of the most dishonest posting I've seen from you.
 
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