Trump The Felon vs Biden The Wanderer Round 1: Official 2024 Presidential Debate Thread 6/27 (Live on Tubi)

Who winning/won the debate

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 83 46.9%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 94 53.1%

  • Total voters
    177

ALonelyDad

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Oh nah it’s a diff Tone ..right now it’s no time to treat him or Kamala softly ,,

shyt got real tonight
I agree, they should always be pushing real questions but its definitely different tonight and honestly if Kamala knew it was going to go like this, her team would have never agreed.
 

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This debate didn't change many minds... it's all theater. How can you still be undecided about THESE TWO? :mjlol:

It’s not about undecided it’s about the country always wanting to switch it up over such small things vs the value of everything. It’s why this country really doesn’t progress

This country will have a President of one party but in the middle of their term elect a congress the majority of the opposing party then complain about things not getting done when both parties have agreed to literally not work together.

A career politician like Biden who became the seventh youngest senator at age 29 in 1972 has literally been in the system for 52 years (his only off years were technically when Trump was president but as Former Vice President you still are In) biggest pros & cons is that he has been in the system for 52 decades.

Even outsiders after some time become insiders.

So much money is always being spent and not even by the people running themselves. It’s always fundraisers and other shyt and they still have the audacity to pay for promos to ask us regular people for money even though they know how much inflation is, how high our taxes are, and how little money we are really making
 

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:jbhmm: What countries have both the hard and soft power like America still has that is willing to back whatever action that corporations and the extreme wealthy want done to make them even richer.
There isn't really a singular alternative. The next best bet is to beef up other countries.

South Korea has been gaining some soft power and Japan is still holding on. If they can convince the leaders to let go of their racism, they can become massive players and sources of investment. Nigeria has been gaining some soft power as well and could be THE place if you want to invest in Africa.

Korea and Japan are committed to democracy and have big infrastructure and populations. China is doing its best to make it's own equivalent of the big American companies and are aggressively trying to sell to Africans, Latinos, and other asians.

I don't think it's good for superpowers to exist, and definitely not good for one country to be dominant. Your great grand children or their grandkids might actually live in a world where there IS no big country that can take on several and win or come close similar to how Germany was in both world wars and how America would be in a third one. It would take the armies of China, India, all of NATO to seriously hurt America and even then they might still "lose".

Multinational corporations are loyal to the customer base. There's nothing stopping Amazon from packing up and going to a country with a younger, healthier workforce and growing middle class. They're loyal only to money, nothing else and America is going to lose a lot of money as the fertility crisis worsens, consumer buying power continues to get stomped on, and the politicians fail to do their jobs while scaring away potential workers (immigrants). This country finna turn into the most lavish tomb in human history. A monument to the largesse of big capital, and a living reminder of what happens when you choose money over human life and dignity.
 
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