Trump says fukk your climate change. promises "deregulation today, deregulations tomorrow,deregulations forever"

[ajnapoleon]

At least he isn't half indian right? Thats all that mattered for people before the election and its sad, this equates to giving free reign to this billion dollar multi corporations to pollute the environment and poison it, the fact that we have a us president elect that doesnt accept the facts of climate change and global warming is just an absolute shame

Was gonna say the same thing

Wild part it’s gonna have to be REALLY REALLY bad before a lot of them gonna admit he was a mistake

 

[humminbird]

he really typed get ready to rock

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Well these republicans that have seats up
In two years got to watch out too. We will see how this goes. Congratulations on you new President

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

MAKE RIVERS FLAMMABLE AGAIN!

 

[RennisDeynolds]

Asbestos and Lead pipes coming back to construction HARD! Apartments on shaky development sites too.


Buckle up #bothsiders

 

[the cac mamba]

Saying nobody cares about climate change is bullshyt. Polling shows that most Americans, especially younger Americans, actually *do* care. And more and more will start to care, especially as extreme weather continues to wreck homes and businesses, causes floods, costs billions in disaster relief and loses, and fukks with the food supply. We are already seeing its effects *today*. It's not this far-off thing that we can afford to kick down the road, or have you not been paying attention to record hurricanes, wildfires, severe storms or flooding lately? And stop using that Al Gore strawman. He didn't say we'd be underwater by now. What he and what scientists said, is that ignoring emissions would lead to the mess we're now experiencing.

you're right, it's not that nobody cares. but Democrats haven't been able to articulate what it means to fight climate change, and what they're asking americans to do; so the issue is too abstract

meanwhile, gas prices are the exact opposite. frankly, maybe the most relevant-to-everyone economic indicator that exists

 

[skylove4]

 

[TEH]

and you think the people in those countries feel differently than the average american? i assure you they don't

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

The sooner centrists and right wingers are out of power, the better.

They are so obsessed with capital gain that they are willing to accelerate our extinction. Even more crazy is that regular people support and make excuses for them. This site is a shining example of the idiocy the greater population has to the serious issue of capitalism destroying our lives in favor of focusing on trans people that majority of us will never interact with or illegal immigrants

 

[Ironman]

This piece of shyt couldn't care less since he'll be dead and in hell in a few years anyway

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

you're right, it's not that nobody cares. but Democrats haven't been able to articulate what it means to fight climate change, and what they're asking americans to do; so the issue is too abstract

meanwhile, gas prices are the exact opposite. frankly, maybe the most relevant-to-everyone economic indicator that exists

This is where I agree with you. Democrats need to get better at communicating these things. Instead of just talking about "fighting climate change," we can frame it in ways that resonate with everyday people. We can talk about "green" jobs created by clean energy projects in different fields like solar, wind, in EV manufacturing, and so on. We can highlight how renewable energy and efficiency upgrades lower costs, and saves us money on our utility bills. We can talk about how energy independence can mean more stable gas prices with less of a reliance on easily manipulated foreign oil markets. And most importantly, we can make a real effort to counter right-wing disinformation about climate change and its outcomes. There are a lot of things that we can do, but retreating shouldn't be one of them.

 

[At30wecashout]

you're right, it's not that nobody cares. but Democrats haven't been able to articulate what it means to fight climate change, and what they're asking americans to do; so the issue is too abstract

meanwhile, gas prices are the exact opposite. frankly, maybe the most relevant-to-everyone economic indicator that exists

This is where I agree with you. Democrats need to get better at communicating these things. Instead of just talking about "fighting climate change," we can frame it in ways that resonate with everyday people. We can talk about "green" jobs created by clean energy projects in different fields like solar, wind, in EV manufacturing, and so on. We can highlight how renewable energy and efficiency upgrades lower costs, and saves us money on our utility bills. We can talk about how energy independence can mean more stable gas prices with less of a reliance on easily manipulated foreign oil markets. And most importantly, we can make a real effort to counter right-wing disinformation about climate change and its outcomes. There are a lot of things that we can do, but retreating shouldn't be one of them.

I have to disagree with both of you. I keep seeing this thing about "Democratic messaging" which ignores the reality: the messaging isn't what they say, it is who says it and when.

People are hurting financially and just chose a President who will make it worse just because they feel changing leadership will change "something."
What effectively communicated messages did they hear?
"They are eating the pets!"
"Concepts of a plan..."
"Obama.."when he meant to bring up Joe Biden.

It wasn't a specific message, it was non-stop flooding of grievance politics NOT from politicians but the influencers who seem to have a better reach on the population that traditional media did. Democrats, as a party and individuals, have brought up climate change issues regularly but people who don't know where there next meal is coming from don't give a fukk about tomorrow if they can trade it for today. Especially when you speak about the non-college vote and the fact that most people aren't plugged into politics regularly, this myth of messaging is not the way. MORE messaging is the key, because a lot of crayon-eating mothafukkas voted Trump because he is funny or reminds them of their father or some intangible shyt. Climate action speaks to people who care about it. You can't talk to people about the dangers of Climate Change when it isn't the thing that threatens their livelihood daily.

TLDR: communicating these things in a particular way is not nearly as important as flooding as many outlets as they can because Republicans own way more media infrastructure. If you say the sky is green every day for 4 years, people will buy it. It's not the message, it's the frequency and personalities who say it. This election should have everyone aware of that by now.

 

[Dr. Acula]

This is where I agree with you. Democrats need to get better at communicating these things. Instead of just talking about "fighting climate change," we can frame it in ways that resonate with everyday people. We can talk about "green" jobs created by clean energy projects in different fields like solar, wind, in EV manufacturing, and so on. We can highlight how renewable energy and efficiency upgrades lower costs, and saves us money on our utility bills. We can talk about how energy independence can mean more stable gas prices with less of a reliance on easily manipulated foreign oil markets. And most importantly, we can make a real effort to counter right-wing disinformation about climate change and its outcomes. There are a lot of things that we can do, but retreating shouldn't be one of them.

He is right in that the American public is stupid and climate change is not going to move the needle politically. I would argue you're still giving the public too much credit. I'd agree if you can frame it as they can have a job making good money within a year by doing something that may help fight climate change, that is a good strategy.

But I feel we just had the biggest example of how dumb the American electorate is a month and some change ago. "climate change" and thinking about the future consequences is too big an ask for the American public. Keep it simple stupid should be how every political situation should be framed going forward. Most Americans are dumb and once you forget that you're going to lose. Always remember you're talking to retards. Climate change and fighting it in a general sense is not getting votes. Like you said you have to make sure you're giving them something for it. Like a green job that makes good money. Don't even have to talk about the danger of climate change that much to do that. Just focus on job and money in their pocket.

 

[Lord Beasley]

These the same folks that were like

"No to Obamacare , but YES to ACA "

Translation: the country is doomed...

 

[the cac mamba]

He is right in that the American public is stupid and climate change is not going to move the needle politically. I would argue you're still giving the public too much credit. I'd agree if you can frame it as they can have a job making good money within a year by doing something that may help fight climate change, that is a good strategy.

But I feel we just had the biggest example of how dumb the American electorate is a month and some change ago. "climate change" and thinking about the future consequences is too big an ask for the American public. Keep is simple stupid should be how every political situation should be framed going forward. Most Americans are dumb and once you forget that you're going to lose. Always remember you're talking to retards.

frankly, this florida insurance crisis is the best opportunity i've seen, to hit republicans on not taking climate change seriously. i know it's tough to navigate politically, attacking republicans on people's houses being devastated. but if Dems can't even make people care about climate change causing that, then the issue is pretty much a lost cause

trying to make people care about the ocean rising two inches a decade ain't it