Trump IMPEACHED by the US House; US Senate Trial Allows No New Witnesses & Acquits Trump

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Yeah, I know a lot of folks will think it's crazy talk. I am certainly up for the discussion.
It’s absolutely not crazy talk. I’ve thought this for a while as well, and not just because Biden isn’t a great candidate. They are banking on this shyt. It is downright fukking selfish at this point for Biden to stay in this while literally the GOP’s entire game plan revolves around him possibly being corrupt with his son. Get rid of Biden and where the hell do they go from there?
 

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It’s absolutely not crazy talk. I’ve thought this for a while as well, and not just because Biden isn’t a great candidate. They are banking on this shyt. It is downright fukking selfish at this point for Biden to stay in this while literally the GOP’s entire game plan revolves around him possibly being corrupt with his son. Get rid of Biden and where the hell do they go from there?
Biden and his son did nothing wrong. Hilary Clinton did nothing wrong.

Why are we rewarding the GOP? How do we know this isn’t part of their master plan? How do we know that they picked Muller because they knew he was a coward because they knew the Democrats were also cowards and wouldn’t impeach the present?

impeach the mothafukka. We know the republicans are traitors. Don’t let history repeat itself. Get rid of them. Because I know how it ends for black people in this country when you let the losers into government.
 

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He's not getting removed from office. McConnell and the Republicans are gonna shut it down the second it goes to a trial. That's why dragging the impeachment out to 2020 is the best strategy - it will throw Trump off his game and fukk up his reelection campaign. Also keep in mind that Nixon wasn't impeached overnight. It took a year and a half. This shyt takes time. This inquiry just started, so there's no need to rush it.
 

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Extend the investigation and convince Biden to withdraw from the race. Then, if the Senate GOP puts Biden on trial it doesn't help them or Trump.
All the while the Senate dems get to present more and more evidence of corruption and incompetence.
It would completely blow up in the GOP's faces.

You just need to be sure Warren or Sanders can do the job and win. It's a gamble, but it takes away a lot of the GOP's cards.


Warren/Gillum ticket seems like a winnable ticket to me.
 

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Except none of yall can factually dispute anything I said. :mjlol:

This is one of the most delusional threads going on the coli right now.

People were in here talking about the Senate is gonna remove Trump. :mjlol: fukking Will Hurd wouldn’t even flip.

No matter how much data consistently show that America’s reaction to Trump almost cutting off aid to Ukraine if they don’t investigate Biden’s bum ass son is a collective :manny: some people don’t want to accept reality.

If you are Nancy Pelosi do you draw up articles of impeachment?

Biden and his son did nothing wrong. Hilary Clinton did nothing wrong.

Why are we rewarding the GOP? How do we know this isn’t part of their master plan? How do we know that they picked Muller because they knew he was a coward because they knew the Democrats were also cowards and wouldn’t impeach the present?

impeach the mothafukka. We know the republicans are traitors. Don’t let history repeat itself. Get rid of them. Because I know how it ends for black people in this country when you let the losers into government.

That’s what I’m saying. Biden did not abuse his power. If that’s the argument the GOP wants to make in the senate, let them make it. Let’s see how their charade holds up when they can’t come up with credible witnesses or any evidence.

Let’s juxtapose their charade with the long line of credible career officials who have already testified against Trump.

I welcome this scenario. Postponing impeachment gives credence to their claims that Trunp did nothing wrong and all this is a witch hunt.

Finally, If the American people reward the GOP and Trump with victories after everything we have seen, then it is what it is.
 

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That’s what I’m saying. Biden did not abuse his power. If that’s the argument the GOP wants to make in the senate, let them make it. Let’s see how their charade holds up when they can’t come up with credible witnesses or any evidence.

Let’s juxtapose their charade with the long line of credible career officials who have already testified against Trump.

I welcome this scenario. Postponing impeachment gives credence to their claims that Trunp did nothing wrong and all this is a witch hunt.

Finally, If the American people reward the GOP and Trump with victories after everything we have seen, then it is what it is.

leaving your wife for your dead brothers wife is not illegal. Joe Biden is not a criminal. Being a rambling idiot is not a crime. Do you know what is a crime? Paying off porn stars and not declaring it during the election. That’s a crime.

As for your last point: some Americans will reward the GOP. But they are no where close to the majority. But we are about to see why the constitution is really garbage.
 

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If you are Nancy Pelosi do you draw up articles of impeachment?



That’s what I’m saying. Biden did not abuse his power. If that’s the argument the GOP wants to make in the senate, let them make it. Let’s see how their charade holds up when they can’t come up with credible witnesses or any evidence.

Let’s juxtapose their charade with the long line of credible career officials who have already testified against Trump.

I welcome this scenario. Postponing impeachment gives credence to their claims that Trunp did nothing wrong and all this is a witch hunt.

Finally, If the American people reward the GOP and Trump with victories after everything we have seen, then it is what it is.

I agree with you on the Biden point but not on the timetable of impeachment. It wouldn't be postponing it - it would be lengthening it. Why rush it just so the Republicans can shut it down? The Republicans aren't playing fair, so why should the Democrats? Make it go on as long as possible to drive Trump and them insane.
 

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I agree with you on the Biden point but not on the timetable of impeachment. It wouldn't be postponing it - it would be lengthening it. Why rush it just so the Republicans can shut it down? The Republicans aren't playing fair, so why should the Democrats? Make it go on as long as possible to drive Trump and them insane.
Let them do whatever they want.

By the way: Stuttering Joe thinks he can work with the same senate that’s about to drag his family through the mud if elected? Either he is dumb or he thinks the Democratic electorate are.
 

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leaving your wife for your dead brothers wife is not illegal. Joe Biden is not a criminal. Being a rambling idiot is not a crime. Do you know what is a crime? Paying off porn stars and not declaring it during the election. That’s a crime.

As for your last point: some Americans will reward the GOP. But they are no where close to the majority. But we are about to see why the constitution is really garbage.
:yeshrug:

All i am saying is if the Dems look at this they have a chance to push the GOP into a corner strategically.

It isn't an admittance of guilt at all. On the contrary.

It gives the Dems a chance to pivot and leaves the GOP on the back foot.

If the GOP continues to smear Biden and his son, no one cares. He is no longer running. Here is a list, however, of the crooked shyt your entire administration continues to engage in.
And you have the length of the trial to hammer Trump on it.
 

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If you are Nancy Pelosi do you draw up articles of impeachment?
Yeah you have to at this point. I think there should’ve been impeachment articles way earlier over the emoluments clause cause it’s a clear and indisputable violation of the Constitution that Trump has shown no regard for, and it has a real world detrimental effect on US diplomacy and national security from Russia to Turkey to Saudi Arabia to wherever else the business dealings of the Trump administration are guiding foreign policy decisions. Don’t care if it was politically unpopular. By doing nothing they already allowed a culture of presidential criminality of an unprecedented nature and scope.

I understand looking at the Ukraine shyt and saying enough is enough and you have to draw the line somewhere so I support it. Unfortunately it’s something that I always predicted wouldn’t really move the public and so far I’ve been vindicated. Unless there’s some as of yet uncovered bombshell, this is gonna be a giant dud politically and the longer it stretches the worse it will get for Dems imo cause it will continue to dominate the 24 hour news cycle bubble and people are already tired of it and have tuned it out.

People already know what happened and no amount of “honorable patriots who dedicated their life to service of their country” from the State dept. testifying before Congress is gonna move opinions. Anyone who’s legitimately outraged by this already hates Trump anyway.

Everyone knows what he did in Ukraine was wrong. But threatening to cut of allotted aid if they don’t announce an investigation Hunter Biden serving on the board of a Ukrainian energy company, for a couple of months isn’t something that’s gonna get the pitchforks out.

I think a lot of people are asking themselves why the fukk are we giving that much money Ukraine anyway when things need funding for things here, are wondering why the fukk Hunter Biden, a lifelong fukkup/former crackhead who never accomplished anything without his last name is getting 55k a month to do nothing on a Ukrainian board, and see that the aid was ultimately granted anyway so it’s not that big of a deal and not worthy of impeachment.

Of all the Trump’s atrocities, such as funding a genocide in Yemen in order to cash in on business dealings of the Trump organization in Saudi Arabia for example this is isn’t close to the worse. The Russia shyt was way worse and that didn’t do anything to Trump.

So yeah Pelosi should impeach cause we came this far, but politically it’s a nothing and could potentially even backfire on Dems if it drags on for weeks and months. I read the Repubs want it to drag on cause the longer it goes the more it looks like Dems care more about damaging Trump than governing and nobody’s really changing their mind on the issue. The Repubs latest defense is basically what Will Hurd said: that it was wrong but it wasn’t a big enough deal to impeach over and I think most people will ultimately be at that conclusion.
 
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Ever since George W. Bush's presidency, Republicans have been believing more & more in the UNITARY EXECUTIVE THEORY.

The unitary executive theory essentially means that "the president is king and if the president orders you to do something, you do it no matter what".

Of course, Republicans only believe in this theory when there's a Republican in the White House. Also, Congress in the past 50 years has delegated more and more power to the Executive Branch (aka the Presidency).
Recommended reading, it's both explanatory and predictive:

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Extend the investigation and convince Biden to withdraw from the race. Then, if the Senate GOP puts Biden on trial it doesn't help them or Trump.
All the while the Senate dems get to present more and more evidence of corruption and incompetence.
It would completely blow up in the GOP's faces.

You just need to be sure Warren or Sanders can do the job and win. It's a gamble, but it takes away a lot of the GOP's cards.
That's just giving Trump re-election in 2020. Biden is the only one that can beat Trump. GOP trying to put Biden on trial in the Senate will not hurt him.
Warren/Gillum ticket seems like a winnable ticket to me.
That's a liberal wet dream (due to gender and race) only to be devastated in the main-election when Trump destroys them. No black running mate is able to help beat Trump unless it was Michelle Obama, and she hates politics sooo......
 

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The Repubs latest defense is basically what Will Hurd said: that it was wrong but it wasn’t a big enough deal to impeach over and I think most people will ultimately be at that conclusion.
It can't be a perfect call and wrong at the same time. :usure:

Nunes in the cross hairs now.

This shyt just getting started. :feedme:
 

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Let them do whatever they want.

By the way: Stuttering Joe thinks he can work with the same senate that’s about to drag his family through the mud if elected? Either he is dumb or he thinks the Democratic electorate are.

Let them do whatever weakens Trump and the Republicans.
 
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