Trump IMPEACHED by the US House; US Senate Trial Allows No New Witnesses & Acquits Trump

[Worthless Loser]

Then you clearly haven't been paying attention for the last 3 years. Trump's initial assertion is that that the investigation into Russian interference was a witch hunt carried out by the Obama administration to keep him from winning the white house. And who was the VP during OBAMA'S YEARS IN THE WHITE HOUSE?

Spoiler

And what's Trump's current smear? That Joe Biden is crooked.

Drain the swamp, Hillary Benghazi yadda yadda

Also,

The 2016 election is a separate issue from Biden. People are trying to combine the two for their own narrative and to put together a puzzle that doesn't fit. Trump's issue with Biden is about him and his son. Point blank.

 

[Jhoon]

Democrats constantly are, the media, politicians, and the base. They all see what’s happening and have continuously called it out. The only people who don’t call it out post on the coli dot com

Hunter Biden should not have to give interviews about anything when the president and his family is mid grift.

 

[Pressure]

The 2016 election is a separate issue from Biden. People are trying to combine the two for their own narrative and to put together a puzzle that doesn't fit. Trump's issue with Biden is about him and his son. Point blank.

You just don't know what you're talking about.


You view these as separate, but they really aren't according to Trump.

 

[jj23]

When you wake up to see there are 2 extra pages to read then realise it's all @Frank Grimes with bullshyt theories and people responding to his bullshyt queries.

Wont be able to get those minutes back.

fukk all y'all.

 

[Worthless Loser]

You just don't know what you're talking about.


You view these as separate, but they really aren't according to Trump.

Nah. Trump living in the past and trying to look into 2016 is Trump trying to prove that he's a legitimate President and that Russia didn't help him while pointing the finger at the DNC.

 

[Json]

The 2016 election is a separate issue from Biden. People are trying to combine the two for their own narrative and to put together a puzzle that doesn't fit. Trump's issue with Biden is about him and his son. Point blank.

You are also glossing over the fact we still don’t know everything that was said in the call to Ukraine. Trump’s diarrhea mouth may have talked about more things than what even we know in connection to 2016 and election interference.

 

[Pressure]

Nah. Trump living in the past and trying to look into 2016 is Trump trying to prove that he's a legitimate President and that Russia didn't help him while pointing the finger at the DNC.

No, Trump is working the angle that the Ukraine was a part of a pattern of corruption used under the Obama administration.

Biden was tasked with corruption in Ukraine and his view is that Biden first used corruption in 2013-14 to get favorable deals for Hunter Biden. Then again to say Russia hacked the DNC.

Which he enveloped into a larger conspiracy saying the DNC hack wasn't committed by Russia (it was) and that Papadopoulos didn't actually say they had hacked DNC information FROM Russia because Russia didn't hack the DNC (the Ukraine made it up due to Obama administration pressure).

All of this should be common knowledge to HL posters.

 

[Json]

No, Trump is working the angle that the Ukraine was a part of a pattern of corruption used under the Obama administration.

Biden was tasked with corruption in Ukraine and his view is that Biden first used corruption in 2013-14 to get favorable deals for Hunter Biden. Then again to say Russia hacked the DNC.

Which he enveloped into a larger conspiracy saying the DNC hack wasn't committed by Russia (it was) and that Papadopoulos didn't actually say they had hacked DNC information FROM Russia because Russia didn't hack the DNC (the Ukraine made it up due to Obama administration pressure).

All of this should be common knowledge to HL posters.

Well when you put it like that it sounds crazy!

 

[Worthless Loser]

You are also glossing over the fact we still don’t know everything that was said in the call to Ukraine. Trump’s diarrhea mouth may have talked about more things than what even we know in connection to 2016 and election interference.

I'm going by real time facts. Your defense of "well, we didn't hear everything yet" is really a jump defense and slightly moving the goal posts.

I'm going by now. What's currently present information.

No, Trump is working the angle that the Ukraine was a part of a pattern of corruption used under the Obama administration.

Biden was tasked with corruption in Ukraine and his view is that Biden first used corruption in 2013-14 to get favorable deals for Hunter Biden. Then again to say Russia hacked the DNC.

Which he enveloped into a larger conspiracy saying the DNC hack wasn't committed by Russia (it was) and that Papadopoulos didn't actually say they had hacked DNC information FROM Russia because Russia didn't hack the DNC (the Ukraine made it up due to Obama administration pressure).

All of this should be common knowledge to HL posters.

This isn't Trump's direct purpose. You're trying to make it Trump's purpose. Biden has nothing to do with the 2016 situation.

I stand by all of my posts. Mulvaney needed to talk about the Biden family. Because regardless of what people say or think, Biden is Trump's number 1 political opponent and potential 2020 challenger. That's the basis for Impeachment. Hurting Biden and helping Trump in 2020. That's the only article of impeachment related to foreign inference that carries significant weight. If you then try to turn it around and put an article of impeachment simply for 2016 and the DNC server, that looks weak and Republicans in the Senate will wipe their ass with that.

 

[choc_cardigan]

I'm going by real time facts. Your defense of "well, we didn't hear everything yet" is really a jump defense and slightly moving the goal posts.

I'm going by now. What's currently present information.

This isn't Trump's direct purpose. You're trying to make it Trump's purpose. Biden has nothing to do with the 2016 situation.

I stand by all of my posts. Mulvaney needed to talk about the Biden family. Because regardless of what people say or think, Biden is Trump's number 1 political opponent and potential 2020 challenger. That's the basis for Impeachment. Hurting Biden and helping Trump in 2020. That's the only article of impeachment related to foreign inference that carries significant weight. If you then try to turn it around and put an article of impeachment simply for 2016 and the DNC server, that looks weak and Republicans in the Senate will wipe their ass with that.

 

[Json]

I'm going by real time facts. Your defense of "well, we didn't hear everything yet" is really a jump defense and slightly moving the goal posts.

I'm going by now. What's currently present information.

The current information is scattered and being lied about. I’m just saying, the stuff you think isn’t connected might be. Just remember to keep an open mind/ear cause more information is coming. Don’t bury your head cause you think you already know what the story is.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Worthless Loser]

The current information is scattered and being lied about. I’m just saying, the stuff you think isn’t connected might be. Just remember to keep an open mind/ear cause more information is coming. Don’t bury your head cause you think you already know what the story is.

Well yeah, that's the purpose of Impeachment. To want to learn more and keep an open mind (even if you already don't think Impeachment is worth it in the end like I do) because more information may be discovered that may or may not make the case more damaging. I'm someone that's very picky about the wording of things and what's considered direct, concrete, evidence because Impeachment against someone like Trump has to be an air tight case or else don't bother.

 

[Idaeo]

Rick Wilson reminded me on MSNBC that Mulvaney is also the OMB director...so he’s the one that actually released the money after Trump got spooked from the whistleblower.

 

[Json]

Well yeah, that's the purpose of Impeachment. To want to learn more and keep an open mind (even if you already don't think Impeachment is worth it in the end like I do) because more information may be discovered that may or may not make the case more damaging. I'm someone that's very picky about the wording of things and what's considered direct, concrete, evidence because Impeachment against someone like Trump has to be an air tight case or else don't bother.

Yeah. I know we’ve had our back and forth about air tight.

I understand wanting to be focused on Biden but this is a case that involves multiple people with multiple interest. So some of it won’t overlap unless you ask why.

Like why is Bill Barr who is investigating the Mueller Report and 2016 being roped into the Ukraine call with Rudy as Trump’s point men? 2016, Mueller, Biden, and Ukraine become connected.