Trump has 30% Latino support and a poll says they think he won the 1st debate

[Professor Emeritus]

They definitely have different definitions for color, class and race.

Try to apply these to the American system and you see these inconsistencies.

And not even the same definitions nation-to-nation either.

Mexico, Brazil, Dominican Republic, Columbia, Puerto Rico all gonna have different ideas of what skin color means, who is white and who is black and who is biracial and where that puts you in society.

People saying "Hispanics are the new Italians" are partly right, but they gotta see that SOME Hispanics become White. Not all and probably not even most.

 

[GMoney]

Ain't no black and brown wish people would stop saying that some of these hispanics just as racists as these cacs.

This. The fluctuation of their votes is not a referendum on how they feel about black folks. Check how many of them voted for Bush 43.

The only reason some of us are even clocking this is because of some misplaced desire or belief that we're in comradery with Hispanics. Whether it's a few positive interpersonal relationships or just living in close proximity, too many of us are ignorant or downplay the entrenched anti-blackness in their communities. That's the real discussion.

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

IT WAS A TWIITER POLL. UNSCIENTIC. Stop posting this nonsense.

It may just be a “twitter” poll
But act like this didn’t happen in 2016

but keep with the black/brown coalition homes

 

[Counter Racist Male]

This. The fluctuation of their votes is not a referendum on how they feel about black folks. Check how many of them voted for Bush 43.

The only reason some of us are even clocking this is because of some misplaced desire or belief that we're in comradery with Hispanics. Whether it's a few positive interpersonal relationships or just living in close proximity, too many of us are ignorant or downplay the entrenched anti-blackness in their communities. That's the real discussion.

+1

 

[MaxPain]

It’s amazing y’all are surprised at this, when most foreigners in this case latinos are conservative.

Im latino and I know quite a few admitted Trump supporters, and there not all Cuban either

1 I know from the military is a Mexican dude, 2nd gen & all his people are on it

The Dems will never have total control over the latino vote. We are too splintered by nationality race color etc

 

[Ayo]

Like someone else said it was a Twitter poll.

It's right here.


It was spread on social media to English speaking audiences and Trump people and bots flooded it with votes.

I know it's cool to picture a bunch of racists hispanics mashing the button on the poll but it was largely a coordinated response by Trump supporters.

 

[mannyrs13]

Yeah I'm going to keep it real. The fact that there is so many Latinos that support Trump is troubling to say the least.

I'm worried we could have a surprise like the 53% of white women that voted for Trump in 2016 in 2020.

Most don't. But a percentage like 30% is a good enough amount to tip in the election in Then favor of a candidate. Hitler came to power with 40% of the national vote.

Obviously as a black man I am not that person or it's not my place to really speak on it so I'm going to ask the Latinos on this board to spearhead this conversation.

Cuz it seems a lot of y'all that lean Republican really don't understand American white supremacy at all.

The ones that do I am not worried about. They aint fukking with Trump.

Its the ones that don't that might tip this election towards Trump and we'll have a neo-fascist hell for the next 4 years.

All Apologies but I'm really not understanding the thought process of actively voting or supporting somebody that's deporting their people, throwing them in ICE Camps, giving them hysterectomies, and shooting tear gas at them at the border. Not to mention building a wall to keep people out .

then again...white supremacy and stockholm syndrome can be a motherfukker.

Hispanics aren't all the same. Not everyone of them is affected by these things. This is mostly the Mexicans and Central Americans experiencing this. People from the Caribbean and South America may not be dealing with being thrown in ICE camps or a border wall. Also I'm pretty sure a high percentage of Hispanics are US born or already citizens so they might not be as concerned with issues of immigration. Especially with the extra resources and opportunities that immigrants could take up, no matter the country of origin, that may be able to go to the ones born here. And not just for Hispanics but any group of people.

 

[3rdWorld]

Hispanics are brought up under extreme White Supremacy..they cannot be trusted. Black people looking for allies among this bunch are fools.

 

[Sindicated]

That stereotype could be applied to literally every group. Every continent is loaded with strong men and dictators or has been trending that way recently and/or in the recent past.




Hispanics aren't a monolith racially.

The ones who legitimately see themselves as Brown or Black, who call themselves La Raza, who identify with other non-White people, they probably don't fukk with Trump any more than the Black community does. There will be exceptions of course but there are exceptions in the Black community as well.

But you have to remember that 30-50% of "Hispanics" see themselves as White, not Brown. They aren't any more likely to oppose Trump than any White immigrant from Europe would be.

Anyone who expects Hispanics to vote 90% for anyone is going to be disappointed. Even Latino candidates don't get 90% of the Latino vote.

The ones who are about La Raza are usually the most racist, like legit be on that NK sureno shyt.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It may just be a “twitter” poll
But act like this didn’t happen in 2016

but keep with the black/brown coalition homes

Act like what didn't happen? That the vast majority of both Black and Brown folk voted blue?

The gap between Black men and Latino women in that poll is only 12%. There's a bigger gap in those numbers between Black woman/Black men than there is between Black men/Latino women.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The ones who are about La Raza are usually the most racist, like legit be on that NK sureno shyt.

I didn't say they weren't racist, I just said they didn't consider themselves White.

There are Latinos that want to be White people, Latinos who want to be Brown Supremacists, and Latinos who want to be part of a Black-Brown coalition. And of course plenty who just want to get by in life.

The "La Raza" types include both the Brown Supremacists and the Black/Brown coalition folk. Obviously I fukked with the second type and not the first but the first are definitely around plenty too.

 

[TEKBEATZ]

Telemundo is the latino fox news

 

[Danktoker94]

Telemundo racist as hell barely ever see Afro Latinos there ever

 

[Barlow]

Yall keep trying to blame this on cubans, as if 30% of latinos who can vote are cuban.

i can already see the excuses pouring in for the black brown coalition though.

Act like what didn't happen? That the vast majority of both Black and Brown folk voted blue?

The gap between Black men and Latino women in that poll is only 12%. There's a bigger gap in those numbers between Black woman/Black men than there is between Black men/Latino women.

What the hell are you talking about

1. those latino numbers are not a "vast majority"

2. voting for trump, the gap between black men and latino women is 13% and the gap between black men and black women is 9%

what is this convoluted comparing you're trying to pull. just say you dont have the same smoke for your latino brethren

 

[Barlow]

Latest poll in Arizona indeed shows Trump with 29% of the Latino vote. What the article neglects to tell you is that Biden is actually doing 1% better with Latinos there than Clinton did in 2016. Trump's gains there are with young men, which pretty much mirrors his gains in the Black community.

Biden leads among Arizona Latinos but Trump makes gains

who cares if biden is doing a single percent better than hillary if hillary lost the election and no one will call out latinos for it but have all the smoke for 2 black people voting trump?

show me the numbers where black support of trump is the same as latino because all throughout this thread you're caping and making disingenuous argument for them.

and keep that "not a monolith" talk if you're going force a "black and brown coalition" and wont apply it to black folks and give the same leeway. you couldnt let latinos face their own music without trying to make some reach to include black people.

yall latina p*ssy lovers are pathetic