Trump doubles Canadian tariffs after threats to cut off elecricity if he escalates. National emergency declared

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"Trump said he would “permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada” if the country did not end unspecified tariffs it had placed on US goods:"

Everything in thr market could be appeased if this moron backs down.

And yet, he continues to double down on tariffs.

This is madness


Permanently shutting down auto manufacturing in Canada permanently shuts down the American industry. You cannot make cars without parts. Moving that manufacturing will take 5 to 10 years, by which time the companies would be bankrupt.

Here's the kicker. Canada only has about 10% to 12% of car manufacturing in North America. Canada also has about 10% of the North American population and car market. So lets pretend he was successful moving all car manufacturing stateside. Canadians would not buy those cars. The market would go down by 10%. He'd be right back where he started. It makes no sense.

There is no way you slice this car thing that makes sense.
 

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The funniest part is that steel and and aluminum are major manufacturing inputs. The US already has tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, and is very reliant on Canadian imports to meet its overall demand. Huge tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum will simply make US manufacturing even less competitive.

Im sure he has a long-term strategy though, just some short-term pain :mjlol:
Trust a man who filed bankruptcy 6x to run your country brehs.

Only reason he has bread to begin with was real estate, which would take a moron to fukkup owning a lot of real estate in NYC.
 

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America couldn't hold afghanistan or iraq but you have some americans think they could Canada the largest country by land mass. The smartest nation in the world that even if 1% fought back that's 400,000 people insurgency that look and speak just like you right on the largest unmanned border in the world. We speak the same language, immerse in the same culture, no way to distinguish a canadian walking amongst you saying allah akbar in mall of america. Americans are used to fighting wars overseas where the common american feels nothing or worries about threats now it would be at your door.

The border between the United States and Canada is the world's longest undefended border. It stretches for nearly 9,000 kilometers across land and water.
Not to mention THE REST OF THE WORLD will side with Canada.

so we would virtually be at war with all of Europe, Australia ect.....


Trump is destroying America and trying to take the world wit it.
 

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It's the same as during Trump 1.0:

(March,2018)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...ion-adjusting-imports-aluminum-united-states/ a 25 percent tariff on imported steel and a 10 percent levy on imported aluminum to take effect in 15 days. Although Trump initially wanted to apply the tariffs worldwide, carve-outs were added for Canada and Mexico for the time being. Aides say exceptions could be made for other U.S. allies.

https://archive.ph/X50DE (May,2018)

Trump is hitting the E.U., Canada and Mexico https://archive.ph/o/X50DE/https://...1bb452-64d3-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html imports and a 10 percent tariff on aluminum sent to the United States starting Friday. While China is also subject to the tariffs, the E.U. and Canada send far more metal to the United States, so the penalties will have a much larger impact on them.


And the follow-up is that China ended up buying more Canadian steel and aluminum. As did India and Brazil. Expect to see more of the same.
 

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Ford folding :patrice::leostare:
Ontario suspends 25 per cent export tax on electricity sent to U.S.

 

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Ford folding :patrice::leostare:
Ontario suspends 25 per cent export tax on electricity sent to U.S.


That orange fukker wants to probably cut a deal. After the tantrum and theatrics on Twitter. Or he got someone to reach out to ford.
 

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Its not that blanket when it comes to power use from Canada. That’s how its being framed but it’s not for Michigan. Article i read is less than 1% for Michigan. But here’s what Canada use Michigan for…



“We don’t use a lot of Canadian electricity in Michigan, but there’s a lot of Canadian electricity that flows through Michigan,” MPSC chairman Dan Scripps told The Detroit News last week. Instead, that energy goes to Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York as part of a Lake Erie-based loop in the electric grid for the two countries.

Okay then residents in Ohio and Pennsylvania are fukked (and you might be wrong about Michigan)

And we’ll continue to pocket the 440K a day in additional fees for Trump’s fukk up


On Monday, Ford introduced a 25 per cent surcharge on energy exported from Ontario to Michigan, Minnesota and New York as a response to tariffs on Canadian products brought in by the White House.

Those surcharges — expected to raise up to $400,000 per day — may not be the end of the dispute.

This is bad all around breh.
 

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That orange fukker wants to probably cut a deal. After the tantrum and theatrics on Twitter. Or he got someone to reach out to ford.

Trump aside, people underestimate the USA has the ability to tolerate more pain than majority of the world. The issue is Trump knows this and is using it to flex, while the rest of the world gets a moral victory standing up to trump. But if you look at Covid for example USA saw booms inflation aside. The issue at hand is you don't want to fukk over loyal allies with the direction he world is going. China produces hella shyt that nobody can buy, and the countries China want to offload production to so the Chinese can shift to consumers, simply can't match China's scale especially with the toxic work culture they have.
 

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Trump aside, people underestimate the USA has the ability to tolerate more pain than majority of the world. The issue is Trump knows this and is using it to flex, while the rest of the world gets a moral victory standing up to trump. But if you look at Covid for example USA saw booms inflation aside. The issue at hand is you don't want to fukk over loyal allies with the direction he world is going. China produces hella shyt that nobody can buy, and the countries China want to offload production to so the Chinese can shift to consumers, simply can't match China's scale especially with the toxic work culture they have.

The thing also is Canada and Americas economy’s are intertwined we have a shytload of American businesses here. Way more than what Canada has over there.
 
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