True Kitchen Suicide in Dallas...or iz it? (Black restaurant owner gets @ patrons for twerking)

[Lucky_Lefty]

If you’ve been sitting there an hour because you believe in supporting black business, and you have the owner coming out berating the crowd and talking about respectability politics because only few ppl twerked, than I’d understand why ppl would take to Twitter and be upset and try to give the whole story. Because honestly, the way the story is being presented is that the whole crowd of black women was wyling out and causing a ruckus. On first view, anybody would be like “He’s right, he wants to run a certain establishment. He has every right to expect more from the patrons.”

But seeing the whole vid and seeing what other ppl have posted, it seems as if he tried to make a general blanket statement speaking at the crowd as a whole, because of the actions of one person. I don’t think a White establishment would’ve addressed a whole restaurant of patrons trying to discuss respectability politics and telling the patrons to GTFO and using cuss words and profane language to the patrons.

Does he want to be fine dining and does he want to think of his patrons as paying customers or does he want to address them in such a way like they’re just the homies from down the block? I can’t picture the owner of a fine dining place speaking to a whole crowd of patrons without any tact. He didn’t handle this well, given all the data I’ve gathered from ppl who were there. Again, I don’t think white establishments would even have a DJ playing such music.

He came out multiple times. They didn’t respond to being talked to nicely so hit em with the haymaker. And from what I saw in the video he specifically was talking to them. He sent a message to everyone else by directly addressing them it won’t be tolerated. What’s wrong with y’all?

 

[Cladyclad]

Yall gotta stop with these false equivalencies man. Maybe your not familiar with the area but there are MANY spots that are even more upscale with a similar vibe. And many of those establishments dont have issues with twerking, but they do sell expensive food and might have a DJ. It's likely the girls that were there thought it was a similar vibe, especially considering the music played. Especially on a sunday.

Breh nothing about that place say start dancing. It’s no space at all. Cmon y’all can’t do this man. This crazy. Common fukking sense

 

[8WON6]

Yall gotta stop with these false equivalencies man. Maybe your not familiar with the area but there are MANY spots that are even more upscale with a similar vibe. And many of those establishments dont have issues with twerking, but they do sell expensive food and might have a DJ. It's likely the girls that were there thought it was a similar vibe, especially considering the music played. Especially on a sunday.

it's not a false equivalence, people are saying "well you shouldn't play rap music if you don't expect them to twerk". So, if rap music was playing in the middle of a movie, NOW all of a sudden you why twerking in the theater would be an issue? What happened to "well throw that ass in a circle was playing so i just couldn't help myself"? Make it make sense. That argument falls apart real quick.

 

[Rawtid]

When yall go to the movies and there's a rap song in the middle of the movie do yall expect people to get up and start twerking in the theater?

Nah, but some of us may yell “Aaaaaayyyyyyeee”. We also might comment out loud at movies. Black people do things differently. When in a club posing as a restaurant, we might twerk, especially when “throw that ass in a circle” is playing.

 

[Dwight Howard]

it's not a false equivalence, people are saying "well you shouldn't play rap music if you don't expect them to twerk". So, if rap music was playing in the middle of a movie, NOW all of a sudden you why twerking in the theater would be an issue? What happened to "well throw that ass in a circle was playing so i just couldn't help myself"? Make it make sense. That argument falls apart real quick.

What I'm saying these women go to those types of spots to go up, get lit, and eventually start throwing ass. Many go for that reason. Noone goes to the movies to twerk. That's why it's a false equivalency.

 

[Dynamite James]

So many simps on the Coli. Playing Superman for thots

 

[Robbie3000]

ya mama and grandma sound like sorry ass bytches from your description, ho ass nikka

This is low key one of the funniest threads in a long time.

 

[Wild self]

Facts. I don’t compare any place that I go to with white establishments. Any one comparing with the “if thiz was a white place” or that “what would white people do” is a fukkin dumbass. The same crowd on the “white music doesn’t and if you would wear a hoodie” false equivalencies. White restaurants are the main ones having code violations and unsanitary Food prep. All that glitters ain’t gold. Just like they can’t slap a label on a garbage dump and call it “high class”. If the owner is going to apply high standards then he needs to apply it across all areas. I didn’t realize he was playing trap music in the background - why didn’t he have jazz or something Lowkey but trap music

I cant judge- I’ll pull up to a valet spot at the restaurant and have drill music on vibe-ing out. Hop out in heels and a dress and go to my table; it is what it is.

The Coli knows nothing about that nor your true ambitions. Being classy to them is a foreign thing, and rather waste money on a CAC spot, eating season-less chicken fingers and fries.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Breh nothing about that place say start dancing. It’s no space at all. Cmon y’all can’t do this man. This crazy. Common fukking sense

If you arent familiar with the area gon and sit this one our. There are many spots that are nicer than this place where that type of behavior is condoned on a regular basis. I know cause I be in them quite frequently.

 

[8WON6]

Nah, but some of us may yell “Aaaaaayyyyyyeee”. We also might comment out loud at movies. Black people do things differently. When you’re in a club posing as a restaurant, we might twerk, especially when “throw that ass in a circle” is playing.

When we're presented with the idea of a restaurant where we can SIT DOWN and eat and listen to a little Jeezy, i expect us to understand what the owner is going for. So, do you get up and dance at the theater when rap is part of the soundtrack?

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

That's expensive. Maybe he's trying to save money to upgrade the space at some point in the future. We should be supporting him so the business can grow and he can further develop his brand. Other races have no issue supporting young businesses. This is a big part of what holds a lot of black entrepreneurs back-- the idea that everything has to be perfect. Because they constantly encounter crabs like you shytting on it because it's not Maestro's or Boa from day one.

nikka fukk you.

Miss me with that fake ass pro black shyt.

 

[Astroslik]

When twerk music is on, you’re going to get twerking. You create a club type atmosphere, you get club behavior. Twerking itself being disrespectful is another conversation. It’s a dance, the music being played fit the dance.

Music doesn’t necessarily indicate an atmosphere. Need the right spacing, decor and setup to be considered an atmosphere to twerk/dance IMO.

 

[Biscayne]

No one is condoning the behavior but he handled it inappropriately like a novice. Its lame to berate an entire restaurant and tell them you dont need their money when only a few characters acting up. I mean, have some nuance, this doesnt even have to be explained. Dude mishandled it, imagine a white owner pulling a PSA like that. Shyt isnt acceptable. Stop missing the point, there are ways to communicate standards to black folks without talking down on them like a principal in an inner-city school.

It’s not just lame, it’s bad business. Everything just has to be paternalistic when it comes to black ppl. Always. It’s always about paternalistic respectability politics under the guise of racial awareness and pride. And I get it. Black ppl have had to stick together and be communal, compared to other races in this nation. So messages get conveyed differently than they would at non-black spaces. But even then, he could’ve just spoken to the individual and her party and kept it moving. There are other ways to send a message without berating a crowd and using foul language.

 

[Rawtid]

The Coli knows nothing about that. Being classy to them is a foreign thing, and rather waste money on a CAC spot, eating season-less chicken fingers and fries.

You’re comparing playing trap music in your car to it being played during your damn dinner?!?

 

[8WON6]

What I'm saying these women go to those types of spots to go up, get lit, and eventually start throwing ass. Many go for that reason. Noone goes to the movies to twerk. That's why it's a false equivalency.

The owner of that spot didn't want them twerking. They were the only group twerking. He talked to them multiple times. It's pretty clear what the owner was going for. Stop being obtuse.

And again, the argument yall was running with was "well when you play that kinda music...blah blah blah". So i presented a setting where you might here that kind of music and people don't jump up dancing. You just know i fukked that argument up and calling it a false equivalence.