True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

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I thought this interview was great. It really illustrated the problem a lot of characters on this show have with religion. They follow the small stuff (contraception is a sin) and ignore the big stuff (murdering your own kids is wrong).
 
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So Marty cheats on his wife and he eats ass, none of the Coli cares about that (except note that he's a lucky SOB). Now when Maggie fukks Rust for payback she's demonic and we all hate her? :aicmon: Come on, man.....

I expect nothing less from the coli :russ:

I am shocked that some are mad Rust isn't one dimensional enough...who complains about that? :wtf:
 

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Martin's character is going to be in the running for biggest hypocrite ever by the time this ends
Marty's actions in last night's episode solidified my thoughts about him from earlier in the thread.

How you gonna get pissed at ole girl being at a whore ranch cause she was too young to be there in your mind, then go cheat on your wife with the same girl years later?

:wtf:
 

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Man Marty's wife is a c*nt.....

Like you don't do a dude dirty like that, if she wanted to cheat..... fine go cheat.

But to do it with rust in a like a 2 minutes of sex and then to tell Marty..... she is a complete c*nt
Telling Rust "your going to have to go because Marty won't be able to live with that"

fukk Her
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Marty's actions in last night's episode solidified my thoughts about him from earlier in the thread.

How you gonna get pissed at ole girl being at a whore ranch cause she was too young to be there in your mind, then go cheat on your wife with the same girl years later?

:wtf:

Yea that's a good point. Showed how Marty's character is a big hypocrite
 

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room had a yellow tint too :patrice:
Another thing that I could be reaching about with that scene was when they showed him facing Rust, the pins on his desk were pointed outward like horns... I only mention it because the camera angle literally had him sitting perfectly in between them.

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fukk skylar's bytch ass and fukk this chick Maggie too. She didn't have to drag Rust into her and Marty's drama. Like I said she could of cheated with a stranger and let it go but she purposely went and fukked rust. She even brought the wine in hopes of getting him drunk.

destroyed the only true connection she has had with a man outside of her father bc she wants out of her marriage. she called Marty a coward... w/ch he is... but so is she. to break a Hart is one thing, but to break a man's will to connect with anyone of this world is damn near criminal. she is evil brehs.....
 

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No. I'm not saying that. You're conflating what I'm saying, trust me. I am saying that by nature humans are incredibly complex entities, and we all accept that either consciously or unconsciously. Characters are not human. They're exactly that, "characters" -- with certain defining qualities that you can add to or abstract from, but they are discernible. Nobody is shocked when Marty kills Ledoux or beats up teenage kids, or sleeps with an ex child hooker. He's a hothead and impulsive, so all that stuff is in line with his "character." If characters were real people (i.e. non-definable), how could you ever have a legitimate story about anything? Everything would be amorphous and dialectic -- essentially melding into nothingness. Rust isn't a man, other than some archetypal inference. He's a character. Nic built him up to be Nietzche's proverbial Superman, and tonight he made him weak. He made him what Aristotle would call the incontinent man. That's my problem with the writing.

I'm not over thinking it. I kinda do this for a living and I'm a bad boy at what I do. But, like I said, some will feel me, some wont.

You do what for a living? :heh:

Don't take this personally but you aren't doing anything special here. I see Rust fanboys all across the 'net throwing the exact same fit you are. "Bu bu but....Rust wasn't supposed to do that". :wtf:

Whatever you do for a living the people behind this show do it better, and with more success. Think you understand a character better than the man that is writing him, brehs.

How old are you? You need to step into modern times. You named:

Achilles, King Lear, Captain Ahab, Moses, John McClane, Captain Hook,

The most recent character on that list is John McClane. He's from 1988. Captain Hook? 1904. King Lear? 1606.

It's 2014. 2014!

Over the last 15 years or so we've been given a wide range of characters that are amorphous. They aren't easily defined. They're contradictory. Sometimes they're hypocrites.

Tony Soprano. Walter White. Avon Barksdale. etc.

These are people that could callously order a murder and directly after that give $15,000 to help neighborhood kids. The same kids they could potentially hire to commit the murders.

We're in the Golden Age of TV. It's the visual novel. There's no need to sum up a character in a few lines of tidy dialogue in Chapter 1 anymore. Characters can be as messy and as human as real humans. Meanwhile people like you are stuck in the past talking about Achilles. :camby:

Lastly, instead of trying to over think everything you need to pay attention. Rust told you he was a hypocrite prone to contradicting himself in the very first episode:

Rust: Maybe the best thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand-in-hand into extinction, one last mid-night brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.

Marty: So what's the point of getting out of bed in the morning?

Rust: Obviously it's my programming, and I lack the constitution for suicide.

Rust talks a good game but in the end he's human. He's not some Nietzschean Superman, he is weak. If he acted solely by his defining characteristics there wouldn't be a show because he would've committed suicide before we ever seen him. It's funny how you're willing to overlook that because it makes the character seem "edgy" and "cool" but throw a fit because he got his dikk wet. :heh:

So no, normally Rust wouldn't fukk Marty's wife. But in the end he's a man, and he couldn't deny his programming.

Fred.
 
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Alls fair in love & war breh. U heard her say "she got a nice ass" and that he always thought she was too skinny.

U can cheat and say its because your a man but as soon as u make them feel insecure about themselves that shyt is like giving them brain cancer. Marty shouldved learned. He fukked over 1 side chick and she exposed him 2nd time wife attacked his ego
 
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