Tropical Storm Harvey expected to produce 2 feet of rain in Houston: Flooding ongoing in Houston

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We evacuated to San Antonio when Rita came and it was a 25 hour drive. On any other day, that's a 3 hour drive for me. I-10 was pretty much a parking lot and traffic didn't really start moving until they open both sides of the interstate to go west. We got extremely lucky to find a hotel since every single hotel was full. I don't think any city in America has enough space and resources to accommodate millions of guests. I didn't leave because my subdivision has never flooded. The surrounding interstates and some random streets have flooded but our actual subdivision is fine. The Sims bayou was damn near full yesterday but it went back down when the rain slowed down so we should be good. I haven't lost power and AT&T fiber is still giving me a gig up and down.The worse that can happen at this point is running out of food in 5-6 days.
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Like I said. This is going to cause massive migration from Houston.

This is insanity.

FEMA can't handle this.


Houston will be fine. Even if flooding occurs every now and then, this is a very rare event.

This is like saying people will not move somewhere because there was a massive tornado there in 1993. The city will recover and if luck has it, this won't happen on this scale for a long time and things will return to normal.
 

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Yeah this is a 1 in a 1000 year event.


Houston will be fine. Even if flooding occurs every now and then, this is a very rare event.

This is like saying people will not move somewhere because there was a massive tornado there in 1993. The city will recover and if luck has it, this won't happen on this scale for a long time and things will return to normal.
 

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What's the latest houston forecast?

Is it gonna flood more?
 

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Yeah. I gotta agree with this. Wholeheartedly.


there is an issue as another poster mentioned, about the timing of the declared mandatory evacuation and the inability of the roadway system to withstand the mass exodus and folks being caught up on the highway, and ultimately flooded on the highway due to gridlock.

So then becomes the uestion of whether to not call for a mandator evacuation when you've already waited to late to prevent further chaos on the roadway, intensifying the weight on responders.

I guess it can be a tough call if you don't call for evacuations early enough. Our governor here is pretty good about it. As soon as a Cat3 or better is predicted, he's like, "Leave. Now"

Usually.


Early morning on the 24th they called for a cat3 and predicted that the storm would make landfall and just chill and dump rain. I think it might be possible that prediction came as early as the 23rd ...




Now... that begs the uestion, even for folks who saw that and started to leave on without government provocation...was it enough time to not get caught in gridlock and make it to higher ground via vehicle safely.

You could go West. And Northwest.

I dunno how many points of exit their were in certain cities. Less points of exit mean more gridlock as people evacuate en masse...

So again, how early do you leave.

I believe at the minimum, as soon as you hear Cat3, you should leave. Especially if you're on or near the coast.

:manny:

Ya'll say this but let's be real. Most of us have jobs. None of us had a chance to leave till Friday. I think it's unfair to blame the city or us. The gov't should deserve the blame. They should make it mandatory that people leave forcing jobs to have to let you off.
 

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Like I said, this seems way worse than "normal" flooding. Not sure if it's due to people used to flooding because most flooding that happened was just due to heavy rain. Hurricanes and tropical storms are still a distinct event, so even if you're used to "normal" floods there should still be the expectation this was something different.

To evacuate a city the size of Houston, and based on the responses of some people there are some people who don't understand that Houston is massive. It can easily take an hour to drive from one side to another without traffic. It would take massive logistical planning. Not sure how you could avoid a Rita like situation unless you forbidded anyone else besides select groups of people on the road at one time. Then you'd need enough people to enforce this. Also you'd have do it as you said way ahead of time which is hard to do with something like this that changes on the hour.

I wouldn't want that job :hubie:

Word. Good post.

We evacuated to San Antonio when Rita came and it was a 25 hour drive. On any other day, that's a 3 hour drive for me. I-10 was pretty much a parking lot and traffic didn't really start moving until they open both sides of the interstate to go west. We got extremely lucky to find a hotel since every single hotel was full. I don't think any city in America has enough space and resources to accommodate millions of guests. I didn't leave because my subdivision has never flooded. The surrounding interstates and some random streets have flooded but our actual subdivision is fine. The Sims bayou was damn near full yesterday but it went back down when the rain slowed down so we should be good. I haven't lost power and AT&T fiber is still giving me a gig up and down.The worse that can happen at this point is running out of food in 5-6 days.

25 hours. :merchant:

Glad y'all got out.

Stay safe tho...

But yeah, your experience is proof that mandatory evacs for a top 5 pop city (and many other sizeable cities) would have to be days in advance with a staggered evac departure system. Enforcement would be a problem tho.

Did y'all have gasoline canisters and food in the whip?
 

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Ya'll say this but let's be real. Most of us have jobs. None of us had a chance to leave till Friday. I think it's unfair to blame the city or us. The gov't should deserve the blame. They should make it mandatory that people leave forcing jobs to have to let you off.

For most working class folks it's a tough decision to make...risk losing your job and/or wages or stick around...

Agree with the underlined especially.

Where are you?



NC. Our coast and coastal plain gets hit often.
 
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