Safer than trying to drive around. I'm hoping a store will open for at least a few hours this morning.
Tropical Storm Harvey expected to produce 2 feet of rain in Houston: Flooding ongoing in Houston
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Safer than trying to drive around. I'm hoping a store will open for at least a few hours this morning.
Like I said. This is going to cause massive migration from Houston.
This is insanity.
FEMA can't handle this.
This is insanity.
FEMA can't handle this.
Yo these flood read outs are fukking nuts
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the more I think about it, the more I think officials would need to issue a mandatory evacuation for a city the size of Houston at least 5 days in advance. Which is tough to do when something is just a tropical storm hundreds of miles away.
the discussion about flood control infrastructure as @Blackout said and also best practices for evacuation notification, procedure and logistics and traffic management as well as more efficient E911 services need to be held. ASAP. It has to be more than just an annual conference. It needs to be quarterly at least.
And local, state and federal responders all need to be involved. As well as public health officials . For each state.
Feds should be assigned to work with each state individually for ongoing training and planning. And that's for every city and state.
A working class, former NOLA resident is on tv right now saying that 911 told her it's nothing they can do for her as she sits on top of her apartment.
Also, this might come off as class warrior-ish... but again, higher income people who have the means to leave should leave early. I honestly think that's responsible citizenship.
Because it's the lower income people who are often hourly workers and have less means to leave are the ones doubly fukked up because even if they have a car, they often wait until the last minute because they have bills to pay and living check to check. So they don't wanna risk losing a few days pay and/or possibly risk termination if they storm doesn't amount to anything.
these events keep happening, and it let's you know how ill prepared and reactive the US is as a nation. ALL of this money is pumped into the military, but we cant get proper, large scale emergency planning and safeguarding measures/infrastructure in place?
Rich folks would rather keep the money flowing as is and sacrifice your lives ( and possibly theirs) than use the time and resources to start to address these things. However, while much money is lost in natural disaster, some people eat.
the discussion about flood control infrastructure as @Blackout said and also best practices for evacuation notification, procedure and logistics and traffic management as well as more efficient E911 services need to be held. ASAP. It has to be more than just an annual conference. It needs to be quarterly at least.
And local, state and federal responders all need to be involved. As well as public health officials . For each state.
Feds should be assigned to work with each state individually for ongoing training and planning. And that's for every city and state.
A working class, former NOLA resident is on tv right now saying that 911 told her it's nothing they can do for her as she sits on top of her apartment.
Also, this might come off as class warrior-ish... but again, higher income people who have the means to leave should leave early. I honestly think that's responsible citizenship.
Because it's the lower income people who are often hourly workers and have less means to leave are the ones doubly fukked up because even if they have a car, they often wait until the last minute because they have bills to pay and living check to check. So they don't wanna risk losing a few days pay and/or possibly risk termination if they storm doesn't amount to anything.
these events keep happening, and it let's you know how ill prepared and reactive the US is as a nation. ALL of this money is pumped into the military, but we cant get proper, large scale emergency planning and safeguarding measures/infrastructure in place?
Rich folks would rather keep the money flowing as is and sacrifice your lives ( and possibly theirs) than use the time and resources to start to address these things. However, while much money is lost in natural disaster, some people eat.
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We evacuated to San Antonio when Rita came and it was a 25 hour drive. On any other day, that's a 3 hour drive for me. I-10 was pretty much a parking lot and traffic didn't really start moving until they open both sides of the interstate to go west. We got extremely lucky to find a hotel since every single hotel was full. I don't think any city in America has enough space and resources to accommodate millions of guests. I didn't leave because my subdivision has never flooded. The surrounding interstates and some random streets have flooded but our actual subdivision is fine. The Sims bayou was damn near full yesterday but it went back down when the rain slowed down so we should be good. I haven't lost power and AT&T fiber is still giving me a gig up and down.The worse that can happen at this point is running out of food in 5-6 days.
Feel it for all my Houston brehs, it's crazy how everything can change in a few days. People who have lost everything 
Just shows no matter the resources, money technology we have when mother nature rings it bells
Just shows no matter the resources, money technology we have when mother nature rings it bells
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Yeah, I wish he would shut the fukk up.
You can't evacuate Houston unless you're putting people on greyhound buses
You can't have that many cars on the road
You can't have that many cars on the road
Like I said, this seems way worse than "normal" flooding. Not sure if it's due to people used to flooding because most flooding that happened was just due to heavy rain. Hurricanes and tropical storms are still a distinct event, so even if you're used to "normal" floods there should still be the expectation this was something different.As aforementioned, it begs the question about when you call for an evacuation and/or strongly urge residents to flee. Again, early morning on the 24th they called for a cat3 and predicted that the storm would make landfall and just chill and dump rain. I think it might be possible that prediction came as early as the 23rd ...
that probably wasn't enough time to call for a mandatory evac of the nation's 4th largest city...
However, people have to do better with just leaving...early. Especially if you have the means and resources to leave. Just. Fukking. Leave. Again at the least, when you hear it's a cat3 and you're on or near the coast. Just leave. Should probably leave earlier, but at least when you hear it's a cat3.
In NC, we've seen cat3's fukk shyt up.
So is it a case of people feeling "immune" to flooding that keeps them there? Have they just become desensitized?
And again, I wonder if there is some Dot study about how much advance time it would take to call for a mandatory evac and get folks out without putting them in harm's way.
To evacuate a city the size of Houston, and based on the responses of some people there are some people who don't understand that Houston is massive. It can easily take an hour to drive from one side to another without traffic. It would take massive logistical planning. Not sure how you could avoid a Rita like situation unless you forbidded anyone else besides select groups of people on the road at one time. Then you'd need enough people to enforce this. Also you'd have do it as you said way ahead of time which is hard to do with something like this that changes on the hour.
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