Triple H Rise To The Top Examined As A Ether

[K-Apps]

one of the rare instances where truth/ether is put out on WF:

This was Triple H's ascension to the top, for those who like to have amnesia (or are unaware), and forget that he's been doing the Stephanie type of shyt, long before Stephanie. None of his rise was EVER through natural means.

*Get yourself in good with Nash & Michaels, who were essentially running the show, by brown-nosing and carrying their bags.

*Slide your way into Michaels' meetings with Vince, and start telling Vince what to do with top stars (while you're still completely unover in your Hunter Hearst incarnation).

*Start using that position to try to fukk over your competition. [See the note in Bret Hart's book about how HHH tried to use Bret to knock off The Rock, after The Rock was booked to win the IC title from HHH...HHH then tried to use his power to book Bret knocking off The Rock for the IC title, but Bret refused to beat The Rock, because he didn't want to stop The Rock's rise, and saw it exactly for what it was [HHH trying to fukk over The Rock] and this infuriated HHH. The Rock in his book wrote about other wrestlers trying to tear him down, and credits Bret for being generous and looking out for him. He also praises the other big names at the time, with Shawn being the glaring omission.]

*Bret also refers to HHH & Shawn constantly badmouthing The Rock to Vince, claiming that he was stiff, missing spots, etc., etc. You can't write it off as just Bret, since this is the Kliq's M.O. Countless other wrestlers have talked about this being the way the Kliq would knock off wrestlers that they didn't like (Shane Douglas, Vader, etc.), using those same exact words. This was a concerted effort on their part.

*HHH tries to get himself booked into beating Bret cleanly at a house show. Bret is at the top of his game at this point and HHH is...HHH.

*Shawn attributes most of the Montreal stuff to HHH, in both his book, and the Greatest Rivalries DVD. So we have one of the biggest situations ever in wrestling, with only four people in on it, and making decisions on it...Shawn, Vince, Jerry Brisco and....HHH. Wtf? Who is he? And HHH was the shot-caller! Amazing. And the worst part is, Vince & Bret had already come to an agreement, with Shawn onboard, until HHH talked him out of it (Bret beating Shawn in Canada, and then dropping the belt to him cleanly in Springfield). Regardless of the merits of the Montreal situation, the fact that HHH was even in on a high level discussion like that, is unbelievable. And goes to show you how far he was using his behind the scenes climbing.

*HHH remains on the booking committee, and presumably after Shawn retires due to injury, is the only active wrestler in this position. Coincidence that he would rise into the position that he did, while Austin & Rock attained it through natural means (and The Rock attaining it despite HHH trying to use his positioning to knock him off)?

*Dumps his long-term girlfriend, for someone who is the complete polar opposite of her, both physically & personality-wise. Keys to the kingdom set for life.

And suddenly HHH is one of the GOATs...supposedly. And a new generation will claim that "hey, he did it before Stephanie", not understanding that it never happened organically. There was politicking and "Stephanies" long before Stephanie. And that's why anyone who was around back then, can never take HHH seriously, because he did not get over in a natural way, without the behind the scenes usery, unlike Austin, Rock, Hart, and even Michaels' rises. Yeah, Michaels started politicking later on into his career, but he was already quite big and respected, with performances like the Ladder Match. HHH is the only one who's been using, brow-nosing, and politicking from DAY ONE. And it never stopped.

Aside from many other reasons, it's just hard to be considered a GOAT, when you know of all the behind the scenes machinations that had to take place in order to even get into that position. Most others got there through their sheer talent, maybe with just a slight bit of scheming on the side. With HHH, it was a whole hellavu a lot of scheming, plotting, and self-serving bs. From day one.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

"The only thing real is the money and the miles, everything else is fake" - #kliq

 

[DirtyD]

 

[ThatKidBlackHippy]

 

[K-Apps]

"The only thing real is the money and the miles, everything else is fake" - #kliq

so all those politics and title wins mean nothing

 

[Da King]

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Whata bunch of obnoxious bs..

So was hhh not supposed to act in a self interested manner when it comes to his career? when it comes to linking up the kliq, and trying to cozy up to vince and the booking team? What exactly is wrong with that? Its a competitive business...

About the rock....he sucked when he first started and was getting booed out of the buildings. Were they right to suggest his push should be cooled??? Same with douglas and vader..

Do people forget that hhh had to pay his dues for years...doing a 30 second job to warrior at mania, wrestling in hog pen matches, stuck with a lame gimmick, mad jobs, etc...

Why do these idiots always think in such binary terms, as if bret didnt play politics...bret had every family member as a featured performer at various points, refused jobs, picked opponents, controlled storylines, etc..

So wait a minute, hhh was supposed to stay with chyna, and not get with stephanie? On what planet does this make sense?

I love how the article said other wrestlers "naturally" assumed bookng positions, as if hhh got his by gun point or something..

Why does the rant leave out that hhh on top was one of the most creatively and financial successful years of all time? 2000

 

[Bud Bundy]

Triple h still making them mad in 2013.

You can not tell me this man is not the greatest heel ever.

 

[Mr. Negative]

It's all about "the Game"..... and how you play it.

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

"The only thing real is the money and the miles, everything else is fake" - #kliq

Nash said that but it's a lesson Michaels & HHH never learned during their prime.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I like how it was conveniently left out that Triple H took all of the heat from Nash and Hall going to WCW and jobbed FOREVER to the likes of the Godwins in slop matches and how about when he jobbed to Ultimate Warrior in like 8 seconds?

Triple H had to work his way back in Vince's favor. Finally he was able to partner himself up with Shawn again and he did well in that role. After Shawn retired they allowed Triple H to be the head guy in D-X but if he had failed in that role all of this would be a moot point..

Facts are facts. Triple H got himself in with the right people but he also had to dig himself out of hole and prove that he could lead a stable, get over and stay over...

 

[Henzo]

one of the rare instances where truth/ether is put out on WF:

Link?

Damn he's mad

 

[SanfordMan75]

even though ol' Fred aint no fan of hhh, he definitely aint no big dummy, he knew what to do to get to the top & join wit da right peeples

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Nash said that but it's a lesson Michaels & HHH never learned during their prime.

quite the opposite...nash knew this but he learned it from HBK. The kliq is 100% about making the moves that get them the most money. HBK wanting to get the belt is about him headlining and getting money. At one time the kliq had the title, IC title, and were bouncing between the tag titles with 1 or 2 other dudes. That wasn't about showing how great a wrestlers they were...it was to get headline cash, PERIOD.

there is nothing else the kliq is about...HHH veered from this but do you think him being in high profile mania and ppv matches in 2013 is REALLY about his legacy? he sure enjoyed that mania payday i bet

 

[jackswstd]

All this shyt is moot anyway unless he royally fukks up by cheating on Steph, or some other kind of scandalous shyt HHH is here for the foreseeable future and beyond.