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[marcuz]

@Gravity still in here throwing a tantrum "b-but if you're visibly black, you'll be treated black by whites, so you're black" this nikka loves to base our tribe solely on how whites feel, pathetic fukk

 

[marcuz]

Most mixed race people identify as black as they know that they'll be at the top of black racial caste system.

pretty much. they have 3 options:

- be at the top of the black hierarchy
- start their own community as an extreme minority
- be at the bottom of the white hierarchy

 

[Gravity]

@Gravity still in here throwing a tantrum "b-but if you're visibly black, you'll be treated black by whites, so you're black" this nikka loves to base our tribe solely on how whites feel, pathetic fukk

Race is the white man's concept. you calling yourself "black" while claiming to not let the white man define you. fukking idiot

at your p*ssy ass ignoring my post directly quoting you.

 

[marcuz]

Race is the white man's concept. you calling yourself "black" while claiming to not let the white man define you. fukking idiot

at your p*ssy ass ignoring my post directly quoting you.

it doesn't matter if race is "the white mans concept" tribalism between groups pre-dates race. so why should we as descendants of slavery, base our tribe solely on who whites reject? admittedly, you believe biracials would swing to the whtie side if whites allowed them. what type of half ass loyalty is that? you just happy picking up someone elses rejects, pathetic fukk

edit: and i didn't even see your response, but i'm sure its the same shyt you've been saying for the last year

 

[Mowgli]

pretty much. they have 3 options:

- be at the top of the black hierarchy
- start their own community as an extreme minority
- be at the bottom of the white hierarchy

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Which option are they in now?

 

[marcuz]

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Which option are they in now?

depends on the individual. many choose to be at the top of the black group, since we treat them like royalty. others recognize the cultural/social differences and stay in the middle. then we have some who wont identify as black or biracial, rather bottom tier cacs/non-blacks.

 

[Gravity]

it doesn't matter if race is "the white mans concept" tribalism between groups pre-dates race.

Tribalism based on "race" didn't exist until white men came into power. You can either accept the concept of race or reject it. Nobody gives a fukk about your personal interpretation of the concept tho.

so why should we as descendants of slavery, base our tribe solely on who whites reject?

Because that's how our tribe was formed in the first place you idiot. Biracial people have been apart of our tribe since its inception. Whites deemed anybody of African descent as inferior and used that as justification to enslave us.

admittedly, you believe biracials would swing to the whtie side if whites allowed them. what type of half ass loyalty is that? you just happy picking up someone elses rejects, pathetic fukk

No, I've said that biracials who accept white supremacy claim mixed to run from being classified as black. That's not exclusive to biracials tho. There are plenty of people who you would consider black that would do the same. This is why you see black people dark as fukk claiming mixed because of some Indian grandmother or some shyt. c00ns are always tryna run or distance themselves from the black community regardless of their complexion or genetic makeup. I say that we unite with those who embrace their blackness while rejecting white supremacy regardless of their complexion their genetic makeup.

edit: and i didn't even see your response, but i'm sure its the same shyt you've been saying for the last year

You saw imy quote you lying ass bytch. It's on this very page several posts above. You'll say anything.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Coli geneticist back at it

 

[marcuz]

Tribalism based on "race" didn't exist until white men came into power. You can either accept the concept of race or reject it. Nobody gives a fukk about your personal interpretation of the concept tho.

Because that's how our tribe was formed in the first place you idiot. Biracial people have been apart of our tribe since its inception. Whites deemed anybody of African descent as inferior and used that as justification to enslave us.

No, I've said that biracials who accept white supremacy claim mixed to run from being classified as black. That's not exclusive to biracials tho. There are plenty of people who you would consider black that would do the same. This is why you see black people dark as fukk claiming mixed because of some Indian grandmother or some shyt. c00ns are always tryna run or distance themselves from the black community regardless of their complexion or genetic makeup. I say that we unite with those who embrace their blackness while rejecting white supremacy regardless of their complexion their genetic makeup.


You saw imy quote you lying ass bytch. It's on this very page several posts above. You'll say anything.

look, man. condense your stupid shyt. i'm not trying to have these 3-4 day arguments with you. west africans were not one drop ruling ourselves with europeans. our tribe was NOT formed from one drop ruling ourselves. biracials being lumped into our tribe was a biproduct of rape and oppression. no one is forcing biracials into our tribe in 2015, except you pitiful nikkas with white wives. now you've trying to conflate mixed ethnicity with mixed race. someone that is half of the oppressor class is NOT black, they are an equal mixture of both. they are just as much european as they are african.

lastly, your reply is he last post on the 14th page--and you strategically responded early in the morning @ 3:11am like a ho

like i said, you can keep one drop ruling yourself. we see the path. go head and breed yourself out, while trynna force someone with a white mother or father to ignore half of their heritage, idiot

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I'm just telling it as it is. There's always been a racial caste system in most mixed race cultures including Aframs. From blue vien societies to the paperbag test, light skin and Eurocentric features have always been valued in the African American community.

Only a tiny minority participated in those kind of things which is why it was easier for darker skinned and lighter aframs to come together under the term "negro" and later "black".

There's a reason why so many black activists and black elite were light skin/multigenerational multiracial/biracial people.

No, there were a ton of darker skinned Afram activist many of the "black elite" weren't elite because of their complexion. It was because they often came from generations of free blacks who happened to be mixed.

Do you think obama would have been elected if he was a full Kenyan? There's a thriving previleged light skin elite class in the African American community who hold most of the wealth in the African American community. And there are people who have up to 60 percent white admixture and their phenotype only represent less than 10 percent of the Afram community, yet they are celebrated as the black standard of beauty.

Nah.

In many cultures such as in Britain and Brazil, a spade is called a spade. Biracial people have their own category. By doing this, identity politics is less complicated. America is still stuck on the one drop rule and Black Americans(who actually have substantial Black admixture) are paying the price.

No, if anything, black Americans gained from. It's the "Black" Brazilians who are suffering just as Gravity put it..

None of this bullshyt has anything to do with the question that I asked you. I asked you why do you think that people get to choose they're race?

Brazilian and British culture are nothing alike. Brazil proves my point. The creation of a mixed race group of people who don't identify as black has subjugated those classified as black even more. The creation of a separate mixed race category has just put another group of people above those classified as black on the totem pole. As bad as blacks have it here blacks in Brazil have it worse.

Exactly

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Mixed with black Japanese or Chinese more likely will not be embraced as proper representation of a Japanese or Chinese, by Japanese or Chinese people. But yet in the black community they would be embraced as representation of a black person

You can't compare new world ethnic groups to old world ethnic groups because most new world people are HYBRIDS. The dynamics are different on a racial/genetic level.

 

[Gravity]

look, man. condense your stupid shyt. i'm not trying to have these 3-4 day arguments with you.

Motherfukk you fakkit.

west africans were not one drop ruling ourselves with europeans. our tribe was NOT formed from one drop ruling ourselves. biracials being lumped into our tribe was a biproduct of rape and oppression.

Our tribe was formed when whites took us brought us here and enslaved us. How biracials came about is irrelevant to the fact that they've always been part of the "black" tribe. Blacks today are direct descendants of biracial people of the past. That's the Grand Canyon size hole in your argument. If biracials aren't black(Obama) them AAs as a whole aren't black(Obama's daughters).

no one is forcing biracials into our tribe in 2015

They don't have to be forced in because they've always been in the tribe. We are descendants of them.

someone that is half of the oppressor class is NOT black

Except they have been for 500 years and counting.

they are an equal mixture of both. they are just as much european as they are african.

European isn't a race idiot. Black doesn't equal African. AAs aren't African we are people of African descent. Nobody is an equal mix of two races because that's not how race works.

lastly, your reply is he last post on the 14th page--and you strategically responded early in the morning @ 3:11am like a ho

Save the deflections fakkit. You're ignoring that post for a reason.

like i said, you can keep one drop ruling yourself. we see the path. go head and breed yourself out, while trynna force someone with a white mother or father to ignore half of their heritage, idiot

Nah, you keep living in on the Internet in your own world because you're too gotdamn bytchmade and insecure to deal with reality.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Yes I know it goes against old racist rules in the past.

Also whites are not forcing mixed people to claim black in today's world so what are you talking about?

They are but not with any written rules.

 

[marcuz]

They are but not with any written rules.

how are whites forcing this chick:

to claim black? this is what happens when dudes have bullshyt agendas. y'all will blame white people for the fact YOU want to claim this chick as black.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Most mixed race people identify as black as they know that they'll be at the top of black racial caste system.

pretty much. they have 3 options:

- be at the top of the black hierarchy
- start their own community as an extreme minority
- be at the bottom of the white hierarchy

No. If anything it was better to be a poor white than an elite black. This is the whole reason "passing" came about.