Training day Vs collateral

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I thought the ending to Collateral was brilliant. The whole movie you have Vincent being a step ahead of Max because of how both stick to who they are. Vincent takes initiative while Max lets the world decide his fate for him, but finally he starts to be proactive and make decisions for himself and the ones he cares about. It all ends perfectly as he runs to the end of the train, no where else to go, he has to stand up and fight the inevitability of this situation with Vincent, and because he does what's foreign to him he wins while Vincent goes down doing what he always does, and never taking into account Max would change.

We see Vincent kill everyone the same way (2 to the chest & 1 to the head) & at the end (look at the train door) he attempts to do the same to Max, but obviously Max has changed, he is no longer who Vincent though he was, and underestimated him. Max fires wildly and hits Vincent (better to be lucky than good sometimes), and the final sit down and ride in LA together. See the man who was willing to change and take the world head on won in the end, while the man who was stuck in his ways perished, Vincent fell victim to what he was telling Max the whole movie.
 

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Haven’t watched either in a while but it’s really surprising me to see people say Collateral is better than Training Day.

I don’t see that at all and I liked both films...

Tom Cruise isn’t believable as an assassin with silver hair color
 

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Haven’t watched either in a while but it’s really surprising me to see people say Collateral is better than Training Day.

I don’t see that at all and I liked both films...

Tom Cruise isn’t believable as an assassin with silver hair color
thank you :blessed:
 

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Collateral is the better flick but Denzel's performance is the best from either movie. Fuqua wasn't seeing Michael Mann yet. If they made these two movies now, that shyt would probably be the inverse but Collateral is Michael Mann bringing everything together. Training Day is dope but for me, it's one really really really great performance that holds everything together and makes it work. Collateral is everything working, from Tom to Jamie to the music to the look, the feel, the whole 9.

I agree with this.
 

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Training Day is a much better film.

How many of you even remember the story of collateral outside of the fact that he takes Jamie Foxx hostage and kills people?
I could post a 2 sec clip of training day and everyone would know by heart the dialog and where it takes place in the story and what happens next.
 

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I thought the ending to Collateral was brilliant. The whole movie you have Vincent being a step ahead of Max because of how both stick to who they are. Vincent takes initiative while Max lets the world decide his fate for him, but finally he starts to be proactive and make decisions for himself and the ones he cares about. It all ends perfectly as he runs to the end of the train, no where else to go, he has to stand up and fight the inevitability of this situation with Vincent, and because he does what's foreign to him he wins while Vincent goes down doing what he always does, and never taking into account Max would change.

We see Vincent kill everyone the same way (2 to the chest & 1 to the head) & at the end (look at the train door) he attempts to do the same to Max, but obviously Max has changed, he is no longer who Vincent though he was, and underestimated him. Max fires wildly and hits Vincent (better to be lucky than good sometimes), and the final sit down and ride in LA together. See the man who was willing to change and take the world head on won in the end, while the man who was stuck in his ways perished, Vincent fell victim to what he was telling Max the whole movie.

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I still dont understand why Mann would associate trash like the transporter with this masterpiece. I heard he put that statham cameo in there because he liked that movie. That had to be the studio's call.
 
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:ohlawd::ohlawd::ohlawd::ohlawd:


This is tough.

I went into Training Day expecting something epic and it delivered.

I went into Collateral with little to no expectations and walked away shocked by how much I loved it.

Javier Bardem. :ohlawd:

How genuinely cold and callous Tom Cruise came off as :ohlawd:

Genuinely enjoying Jamie Foxx's character when I never really fukked with dude like that :banderas:

Training Day is fukking iconic, top 2 of my favorite movies with Pulp Fiction - but I just REALLY liked Collateral.
 
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